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Advice You Would Give to Your 12 Year-Old Self?

Posted by Cliff on Fri Feb 21, 2003 01:48 PM
from the hindsight-is-20/20-but-you-already-knew-that dept.
urbazewski asks: "If you could send a message back to your nerdy unpopular 12 year old self, what would you say? I've been asking this one for several years, and the replies sound suspiciously like the lame advice I got from adults at that age ('just be yourself, dear'). The most creative answer was from an American-born Buddhist monk, who didn't think his 12 year old self would listen to a message along the lines of 'Hey, what you're doing is kind of making things suck for me right now' --- he would send a message to himself by adding extra lyrics to a song he really liked when he was in junior high school. I got the best replies from a large class at UC Santa Cruz. The modal answer was 'Buy Microsoft.' About 7% of the class said 'Enjoy yourself in high school because college is really hard.' Another 7% said "Study harder in high school because college is really hard.' (The best variant on that theme: 'Try to figure out what "studying" is'). In the hindsight-is-20/20 dept. there was a girl who said 'Do not date the following people...' and then listed six names and a guy who said 'You know how you're thinking about trying to drive your dad's car? Don't!.' My personal favorite: 'You're a dork now, but don't worry, you'll be cool when you're in college.'"
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  • advice (Score:5, Funny)

    by threedays (16600) on Friday February 21 2003, @01:51PM (#5354159)
    register slashdot.org
    • Re:advice (Score:5, Funny)

      by Illserve (56215) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:14PM (#5354596)
      What, for a $100 buyout?

      Cocacola.com would get you millions.

      nike.com

      reebok.com

      Disney.com

      just run down the Fortune 500 list back in 1991 and squat like a pro. Remember to put a "fan page" on each of them so the courts can't yank it.

      "This si my coca Cola page! I LOVE COKE!
      Herei s a pic of me drnking coke!!"

    • by sdjunky (586961) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:20PM (#5354671)
      I would tell myself to not register slashdot.org as doing so would mean there is no slashdot to ask this question and thus I couldn't have made the initial change thus causing a paradox.

      Oh... and stay away from the airport ( especially the guy with the blonde wig and sunglasses )

    • no no.. (Score:5, Funny)

      by Wakkow (52585) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:30PM (#5354802) Homepage
      goatse.cx .. Please young version of me, register that domain and save me from having an image imprinted on my mind forever.
    • by gosand (234100) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:35PM (#5354854) Homepage
      register slashdot.org

      To which 12yr old me would say:
      What the hell does register mean, and what is slashdot.org?

      33yroldme: It is a website
      12yroldme: What the hell is a website?
      33yroldme: You know the internet.
      12yroldme: What the hell is the internet?
      33yroldme: A bunch of computers hooked up together to share information.
      12yroldme: What the hell is a computer?
      33yroldme: You know, a personal computer.
      12yroldme: No, I have no idea what you are talking about.
      33yroldme: It is a screen, like a TV, and you can do all kinds of things on it, like playing games.
      12yroldme: Oh, in your house, like an Atari?
      33yroldme: Yeah, sort of, but they are all over the world too.
      12yroldme: Oh, you mean in the arcade like a Pac-Man machine? And that new game, Pole Position? That game is cool. It is so realistic! Or Joust, that game is fun because two people can play at once. I have only played it a couple of times because it is brand new. There is always a line for it.
      33yroldme: Dude, nevermind. Have fun.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 21 2003, @01:52PM (#5354170)
    "You know what, just forget it, you won't listen to anything i say anyway..."
  • by nanojath (265940) on Friday February 21 2003, @01:52PM (#5354177) Homepage Journal
    Kill Yourself Now.


    Yeah, that's right, kill yourself, you heard me.


    I want to find out if a fundamental paradox really causes the universe to end! I mean, suicide is not my bag, but if I had the chance to take all of you with me...

    • by Blue Stone (582566) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:30PM (#5354803) Homepage Journal
      Nah, the universe is fractal in nature, every choice branching off into multiple realities, ad infinitum.
      The you at age 12 would still exist, as one single event of a miltiple of you before you contacted yourself, none of which would be contacted.
      If you did take your own advice (and...would you? I mean I'd tell myself to go fuck myself, personally) then, the you after the point just before you contacted yourself would be wiped out, quite possibly, but the you before you were contacted would still exist, and without the you from the future of that line in time, to pass the fututre message, you wouldn't do it.
      In other words, you'd wipe out everything in one possible universe from the point of contact if you did commit suicide, but not before it, and it would still continue from the point where your message fails to appear as if nothing had happened, which of course is true unless you make the same decisions exactly as you did the first time round from that point onward, in that timeline, leading to you contacting yourself in the past, which is not guaranteed not least of which because of a universal cognisance of the event which took place leaving a dissonance in it's wake, spreading backward and outward, so that at least at some point you'd not comply, realising the stupidity of your behaviour and eventually boring yourself/ves of the repetition of the fundementally self-destructive non-beneficial act and get on with doing something more positive instead, tike putting the telly on or something.

      Possibly.
  • by Anik315 (585913) <anik@alphaco r . n et> on Friday February 21 2003, @01:52PM (#5354178)
    Train your left hand for next year.
  • by Znonymous Coward (615009) on Friday February 21 2003, @01:52PM (#5354185) Journal
    Never turn down a chance to get laid.

    Oh, and buy Cisco stock in 1998 and sell it in Jan 2000.

    Period.

  • Hi.. (Score:5, Funny)

    by grub (11606) <slashdot@grub.net> on Friday February 21 2003, @01:53PM (#5354187) Homepage Journal

    "Self, in 4 years you're going to meet a really nice girl at a party. This time guy some fucking condoms!"
  • easy (Score:5, Funny)

    by pizza_milkshake (580452) on Friday February 21 2003, @01:53PM (#5354194) Homepage
    don't waste your time reading slashdot; do something useful instead.
  • Save! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sdo1 (213835) on Friday February 21 2003, @01:53PM (#5354201) Journal
    Start saving. Now. Put 15-20% of every penny your earn in the bank (or IRA, or other investments). You'll be debt free and have enough to retire on by the time you're 45.

    Sadly, I don't have a time machine, so I'm on the "work until I'm 65" route.

    -S
    • Re:Save! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by rbolkey (74093) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:39PM (#5354905)
      (::sigh:: the whole modding up vs replying decision.)

      I'm trying to give this advice to all my friends who just got their first jobs out of college. Stop buying the new flashy toys, and start putting money away while you can (no real bills to eat up their paycheck). They'll have a lot more freedom later on.
  • by ThousandStars (556222) on Friday February 21 2003, @01:53PM (#5354203) Homepage
    You're dumb, but that shouldn't be too surprising since you're 12. When you get the chance to enter a running start program as a sophomore, do it. With high school comes stupid heartache, and an early exit will save you lots of heartache.

    But, in order to accomplish that, you must ignore your evil best friend, Adam. He will bring you Warcraft II, which will consume an inordinate amount of your time and eventually lead you to Diablo and Starcraft. Which is like heroin to you.

    In summary: Get away from high school and addictive Blizzard products.
  • by flynt (248848) on Friday February 21 2003, @01:54PM (#5354206)
    Never, ever, ever click a goatse.cx link. That image will forever be burned on my retina...shudder....
    • Re:Watch your links (Score:5, Informative)

      by Fnkmaster (89084) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:15PM (#5354604)
      And even more importantly, NEVER EVER go to Rotten.com. No matter how curious you may be. Don't do it. There are things in the world that you just don't want to see.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 21 2003, @01:54PM (#5354211)
    ... you insensitive clod!
  • by Wrexs0ul (515885) <mmeier@@@racknine...com> on Friday February 21 2003, @01:54PM (#5354215) Homepage
    "Just do it. You know the smart thing to do and say, don't hold back."

    and: "Next Thursdays winning lotto numbers are:..."

    -Matt
    • by btellier (126120) <[btellier] [at] [gmail.com]> on Friday February 21 2003, @02:54PM (#5355077)
      and: "Next Thursdays winning lotto numbers are:..."

      I read a study recently (I tried googling for it and couldn't find it) that basically tracked lottery winners over a five year period following their wins. It said that when they first recieved their money their overall happiness jumped a great deal, as described here [warwick.ac.uk]. It then tracked their happiness for the remaining five years.

      The interesting part is that almost uniformally every single winner's happiness receded back to what it was before they won. It seems that everyone has a "base happiness" that cannot be altered by material things in the long term. I believe that everyone needs enough money for sustenance and comfort, and after that it's all vanity.
  • Hmmm (Score:5, Funny)

    by IamTheRealMike (537420) on Friday February 21 2003, @01:55PM (#5354227) Homepage
    Considering that I can't really remember much about being 12, even though I'm only 18 now, I'd probably tell myself to go do something interesting.

    Oh, and I'd probably tell myself to go on that bike ride with katie, she might be a bit wierd but she's also damn hot, and that kind of thing doesn't happen as often as TV makes you think it will.

    • Re:Hmmm (Score:5, Funny)

      by MarkGriz (520778) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:12PM (#5354558)
      Considering that I can't really remember much about being 12, even though I'm only 18 now

      How about: "Hey self, stop smoking so much dope. Your memory will be shot by the time you're 18"

  • Parents (Score:5, Funny)

    by citking (551907) <jay&citking,net> on Friday February 21 2003, @01:55PM (#5354229) Homepage
    Dear Self: You know all those things that you're hiding from your parents (report cards, alcohol, drugs, women) so they won't find out? Well, they already know. Have a good day!
    • Re:Parents (Score:5, Insightful)

      by unicron (20286) <unicron.thcnet@net> on Friday February 21 2003, @02:30PM (#5354808) Homepage
      That kind of falls into what what I would tell myself:

      "This is going to scare the shit out of you, and you'll probably think I'm the devil himself for telling you this, but EVERYTHING your parents ever tell you to do or not do is dead on the money. Your problems are not completely unique, and your parents have been there and know the easiest way out. ALWAYS take their advice. You've gotta make your own mistakes, but you can avoid the truly bibilical fuck ups if you just listen to your folks."

      I can still remember the day this thought occured to me. I think I shuddered, fell out of my car, and went trembling into the fetal position.
      • Re:Parents (Score:5, Insightful)

        by TFloore (27278) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:52PM (#5355049)
        While I agree with this advice in many cases, there is one little annoyance with the advice:

        Until the thought occurs to you independently, you won't believe it anyway.

        It's wonderful to be one of those people that learns from other people mistakes, rather than taking the time to make them all yourself... but some things you seem to have to just figure out on your own.

        My advice would generally be more "do things" rather than "avoid things". Oh, and don't worry about looking stupid and feeling self-conscious, do it anyway. :)
  • that girl (Score:5, Funny)

    by milktoastman (572643) on Friday February 21 2003, @01:56PM (#5354243)
    Not to my 12 yr old self, but to my 17 yr old self I'd say: "you know that slutty girl who is trying to get on you but who you keep turning down because you think she might have something...well, she does in the future, but not now, so get it while the gettin's good!

    In all honesty, that's what I'd say. Rather shallow, I know.

  • by GreenJeepMan (398443) <josowskiNO@SPAMtybio.com> on Friday February 21 2003, @01:56PM (#5354263) Homepage Journal
    You shouldn't worry about what you could have done differently in the past. If you could send yourself a message and actually change something, there would be a whole new branch of problem and mistakes that you would most likely want to change again, and again... and again.

    If you don't like something about yourself, don't fret over it. Change it starting now.

    • by coyote-san (38515) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:14PM (#5354585)
      The point is usually to give advice to kids today, not to find some crazy professor and hit 88mph in his DeLorean. I didn't get much help from adults when I was a kid (and every year appreciate my scout master more and more), but maybe I can offer a bit to some today.
      • by SnowDog_2112 (23900) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:53PM (#5355072) Homepage
        Well, in that case, here's some advice.

        In another post I said I wouldn't change anything -- and I wouldn't. But these are things I'd give as advice to generic twelve year olds in a similar position to myself at that age -- a nerdy kid who gets picked on because he's poor, weak, nerdy, and in a fanatical religion.

        Become an independent thinker as soon as possible. A good part of your pain comes from the brainwashing of your religious youth. Read _Stranger in a Strange Land_ and _Job: A Comedy of Justice_ before you go to High School. I read them halfway through and they changed my life. Maybe reading them sooner would have prevented some high school pain.

        Don't just give your friendship to anybody who is willing to take it. There is a perceived solidarity among those who are downtrodden, but some of those people are real low-lifes and will try to drag you down. It's not really true that the enemy of your enemy is your friend. Pick your friends carefully -- they have a profound influence on you.

        Don't count on being lucky and not getting caught. There's nothing wrong with breaking some rules, but don't assume because you've never been caught you can't get caught. Don't get stupid. One mistake at the wrong time can change everything.

        Don't confuse your hormones with genuine affection. She's not perfect. She's probably not even perfect for you.

        Life is full of unique opportunities. You might die tomorrow. Take those opportunities when you can. Don't assume you're immortal and will have forever to chase those things down.
  • by MosesJones (55544) on Friday February 21 2003, @01:57PM (#5354279) Homepage

    Because all adults will tell you is what they wished _they_ had done.
  • by aborchers (471342) on Friday February 21 2003, @01:57PM (#5354287) Homepage Journal
    Given that, at 12, I was entering that period of life where I would do pretty much exactly the opposite of what anyone advised:

    1. Don't take algebra, there's no practical use for that stuff.

    2. Do all the cocaine you can get your hands on. The eighties will be much more fun that way...

    3. Rush out and get laid by the first girl who will do it.

    That's a pretty good start...

  • Heh (Score:5, Funny)

    by citking (551907) <jay&citking,net> on Friday February 21 2003, @01:57PM (#5354289) Homepage
    Dear Self:

    In the future, you are going to write to your nerdy, unpopular self.

    In the meantime, think of something witty, cuz this sucks!

    Later!

  • by markv242 (622209) on Friday February 21 2003, @01:58PM (#5354292)
    ...because in about 10 years, you're going to be incredibly disappointed.
  • by revision1_1 (69575) on Friday February 21 2003, @01:59PM (#5354308) Homepage
    ...and don't sweat the breakup so much, because you end up marrying the next one. Everything turns out all right.

    (actually, this is to my 16-year-old self)

  • 12 is too young (Score:5, Insightful)

    by coyote-san (38515) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:00PM (#5354325)
    In many ways 12 is too young - the best advice in the world is worthless if you don't have the ability to do anything about it.

    But a few years later, I have some advice that I would give to my younger self - and that I'm still trying to follow past 40:

    1. it's far better to regret things that you've done than things that you didn't risk. (Okay, maybe this isn't the best advice for a teenager...)

    2. your PE teacher is an idiot, but time spent on physical fitness is not wasted. Get to the gym. Lift weights. Run. You'll get back the time spent today in increased productivity for years to come.
  • My Advice (Score:5, Funny)

    by Dr. Bent (533421) <.moc.tni. .ta. .neb.> on Friday February 21 2003, @02:00PM (#5354334) Homepage
    FYI: Inflammable means flammable...
  • by digitalhermit (113459) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:05PM (#5354431) Homepage
    1) The nerdy girl in your morning science class is going to be beautiful at 22 when you run into her in college. The hot little girl in your homeroom will be neither.

    2) Don't, don't, don't think it'll be a good idea to use the dog clippers to trim the top of your head. You'll miss and need to make up some excuse that you were checking for 666.

    3) Don't use silicone spray to lubricate the lawnmower. The gases are very flammable and you'll singe your lungs.

    4) Have absolutely no moral dillemma about having fun with your girlfriend's hot little friend. Your girlfriend will dump you a week later for the SWAT sergeant.

    5) Late at night, when everything is dark, do not blindly drink from the 1/2 gallon plastic jug in the back of the fridge. It will *look* like lemonade, but....

    6) Have fun. Have lots of fun. Take lots of classes, even ones you don't need.
  • by serutan (259622) <doug@NOSPaM.geekazon.com> on Friday February 21 2003, @02:09PM (#5354510) Homepage
    and introduce him to girls and beer in high school. He'll never get anything done.
  • by LibertineR (591918) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:20PM (#5354676)
    1. Dont be nice to girls, they wont respect you and will sleep with men who are mean to you and tell you all about it, while never giving you any.

    2. Sleep with everything that moves, knowing that as you make more money, the women get prettier. If you dont like the girls who like you, make more money!

    3. STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY! STUDY!

    4. Under no circumstances ever consider marriage unless you reach 30 and make less than 150K a year. If you are younger and/or make more, your options for trim are too good to settle for just one chick regardless of what you look like.

    5. Dont buy a Mac.

    6. Just because you will love Java, doesn't mean you can ever do anything productive with it. Stick with C++ and dont be afraid of garbage collection and pointers.

    7. Everyone you think is cool, will be washing your car, turning down your hotel bed, and bringing you meals in 20 years, if you refuse to be like them now.

    8. Those big tits you love so much right now, will be hanging around her navel in 25 years. Learn to like the flat girls.

    9. Once you make decent money, you will forget all that crap about the environment, compassion and helping others, so why waste your time now?

    10. Everyone does it, anyone who says they dont is lying.

  • by TheLoneGundam (615596) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:22PM (#5354716) Journal
    "here's how I invented the mechanism to send you a message back in time. It only works for a certain number of years in the past, though. I need you to send this info back to Grandpa, so that he will invent it, our corporation will patent it, and we'll rule the world!"
  • by scotay (195240) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:23PM (#5354719)
    Older people only appear to have their acts together.

    You won't be the first nerd to lose their virginity in their 20's.

    You are not as weird as you think you are.

    You are not as weird as Michael Jackson.
  • by shylock0 (561559) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:33PM (#5354829)
    I was so uncool when I was twelve, if I could go back in time I'd probably beat myself up...
  • Another challenge. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Kingpin (40003) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:51PM (#5355044) Homepage

    What do you think you'd like your future self to tell you now?

  • by kfg (145172) on Friday February 21 2003, @02:53PM (#5355066)
    Well, they're going to college too, on sports "scholarships". Get used to the idea now and when you get there you can skip the disappointment phase and enjoy your freshman year a lot more.

    If you do that you'll discover that college professors ( at least the good ones) aren't authority figures. They're actually *teachers,* and are quite willing to be your friend as well. Even when things get rocky. Find the good ones and cultivate them.

    You aren't really socially inept. You've matured early. This puts you about 20 to 30 years ahead of the curve. When you hit 40 or so people will suddenly think you're "cool" not because of any change in you, but because they've finally caught up. So don't sweat not fitting in with people who are, essentially, still savages.

    KFG