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File Systems Best Suited for Archival Storage?
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on Sat Jan 06, 2007 04:23 AM
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Amir Ansari asks: "There have been many comparisons between various archival media (hard drive, tape, magneto-optical, CD/DVD, and so on). Of course, the most important characteristics are permanence and portability, but what about the file systems involved? For instance, I routinely archive my data onto an external hard drive: easy to update and mirror, but which file system provides the best combination of reliability, future-proofing, data recovery, and availability across multiple platforms (Linux, OS X, BeOS/Zeta and Windows, in my case)? Open Source best guarantees the future availability of the standard and specification, but are file systems such as ext2 suitable for archival storage? Is journaling important?"
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If you are worried about interoperability use FAT (Score:3, Insightful)
If you are not constantly editing the information (and you won't be, it's for archival purposes) the admittedly major downsides of not being journalled and being prone to fragmentation are non-issues. You might run into problem with capacity limits and/or file size limits though.
Don't use FAT (Score:3, Interesting)
I use Ext3 for my backup drive, and this driver [fs-driver.org] for when I need to attach it to a Windows box.
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The first limit is almost a non-issue. The FAT-32 filesystem supports up to 8 TB. Of course, Windows XP can't format a volume over 32 GB, but you can always create the volume in another way---in Windows 98, ME, or Vista; in Linux; or using a third-party formatting tool. Once you have created a larger volume, Windows (even XP) should be able to handle it just fine.
FAT Limitations [microsoft.com]
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The best archival filesystem (Score:4, Funny)
Of course, that's just my opinion--then again, I could be wrong.
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Try thin metal plates. A little more difficult to etch by hand (which can be alleviated by using the right malleability of gold), but well worth it for the long-term benefits of damage-resistance and portability.
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The downside of gold is that invading Conquistadors (or otherwise no-good people) might try to melt it down into bars or bullion, destroying your data.
Don't overlook popularity (Score:3, Insightful)
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Re:Don't overlook popularity (Score:4, Informative)
The killer feature back in the day was the first good implementation of disk splitting. But the compression still stands up now.
On my 'if I ever get free time' list is to implement rar's file ordering in GNU tar to see if that helps gzip and bzip2 catch up RAR's compression ratio. But I've no idea if/when I'll ever get around to that.
-- paid-up RAR user since 1996.
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What RAR is good for is cross platform file splitting, parity files (borrowed concept from RAID 5 and co), and the ability to archive without compressing. This is why it is used in the "scene" all the time.
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I wouldn't say the same goes for RAR. It's a proprietary format, owned by a company and used mainly for piracy. I know you can extract it on many OS tod
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Last I checked, RAR compression isn't available on any default installation of Linux, Windows, or Mac.
RAR may be the best or versatile but every time I've had to un-RAR something, I either used a trail version or a cracked version.
Not something I want to trust 15 years later.
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How Archival? (Score:5, Insightful)
How far into the future are you going to need it? I understand the whole "not wanting to become unreadble," but honestly, no one's going to bother re-implementing a filesystem to look at their old vacation photos. Pick a popular filesystem, and you'll be sure of support down the line. FAT's still doing just fine for itself, and the ISO filesystems for CDs and DVDs will be readable as long as people are making drives for them.
All of the data integrity features on filesystems aren't going to protect against disk failure/media wearing out, and error correction on that scale is beyond the scope of any one disk to handle. Like the department jokingly advised, parity files and other methods can handle this in a robust, media-spanning manner, and protect against everything from a few flipped bits to a whole-disk data loss (assuming you have enough parity data).
I think the reason not much talk about filesystems has been going on is because they're mostly irrelevant for this task. They're designed to handle the issues of a live environment; the issues that archives face are beyond the capability of how you choose to store your data on each piece of media to solve.
Re:How Archival? (Score:4, Interesting)
However, you're correct that both are ubiquitous standards and likely to be readable by all modern operating systems and should be for some time to come.
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No Filesystem is Best (Score:2, Interesting)
Now which archive format is best - tar, cpio, etc.? I've heard that cpio is a much simpler underlying format.
And if you have the space, write the archive sequence multiple times on
Re:No Filesystem is Best (Score:5, Insightful)
If you made 2 copies of the archive on the media, and piece 10 of both sets die, you've lost everything. If you made 1 copy of the archive, and a 10% par set, any 10% of the pieces (data and parity both) could die and you'd still have your data. If you made a 100% par set, you could lose half of the data and parity and still recover. And it doesn't matter which portions.
Add to that the fact that if you lost piece 10 in archive 1, and piece 9 in archive 2, it would be not much fun to figure out the dead pieces and make a full archive again. With PAR2, the tool will do the work for you.
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What about error correction? (Score:5, Interesting)
In hardware, there's often a checksum, ECC/Hamming code, parity bit, Reed-Solomon code, etc. to detect and/or correct for inadvertent bit flips. But, as far as I know, no error correcting information is ever stored within the filesystem itself. Certainly the filesystem tracks how many blocks are dedicated to a particular file, and how many bytes long the file is, and one can always hash the file twelve ways to Sunday to assure that it hasn't changed since it was originally hashed, but none of that helps repair errors to the file should the medium that's being used to store it decay beyond what's already correctable via the medium access hardware.
I can imagine scenarios where, for example, the RAM buffer in a hard drive is upset and perfectly encodes the wrong bit into a file (or even multiple stripes + parity in a RAID). In this case, the medium access hardware is useless (the data was, after all, ecoded perfectly wrong), but ECC in the filesystem would detect and potentially correct the error the next time the file was read back, even if it were decades later. I appreciate that it would add overhead, and thus maybe shouldn't be the default, but I don't see it being even an option anywhere, and some people would pay the performance penalty to get the data integrity benefit.
Especially in instances like encrypted (or compressed, or both) loopback file systems where one bad bit can destroy an entire partition, why don't we have more data assurance layers available? Or have I just not found them?
Whining of which, what was the deal with GNU ecc? Everyone speaks of "oh, yeah, the algorithm was deeply flawed, bummer..." but I don't ever see any details
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In an archival setting, I'd rather get back corrupted data than no data at all. A filesystem that aborts on checksum errors would therefore be a bad choice when faced with that problem.
The question isn't so theoretical. NAND flash requires forward error correc
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.par2 (Score:2)
I've been wondering lately why no common file systems seem to implement error correcting codes (ECC/EDAC).
Because user mode tools such as PAR2 [wikipedia.org] already implement them.
I can imagine scenarios where, for example, the RAM buffer in a hard drive is upset and perfectly encodes the wrong bit into a file
Likewise, I can see scenarios where, for example, the RAM buffer in an application's main memory or in the file system's buffer is upset and perfectly encodes the wrong bit into a file.
This question keeps popping up (Score:4, Insightful)
My take on this problem is that you should use the best you reasonably can today. Then in 5 years time when there is a new technology out there, move over to that for archiveing your new data AND move your old data over while you still have working hardware.
I went from floppy disks to LS-120 drives. From LS-120 drives to CDs. From CDs to DVDs. I'll go from DVDs to whichever of HD or BD seems best in a couple of years (unless something else crops up). I might use hard drives instead but I'm not sure yet. The point is I don't need to decide until I need to store that much.
If you're playing in the big leagues do the same with the various formats of giganto capacity tape storage etc.
Plan around the shelf-life and working life of the hardware you can get and the answer drops out.
Hardware isn't everything (Score:3, Insightful)
Sure, I could use archives with checksums or RAID, but it'd be nice if there was an option to sacrifice some speed and space on a single form of storage to improve the reliability without going to such cumbersome lengths.
Simple... (Score:4, Interesting)
Ext2 fs mounted rw,sync. When just reading, or just writing, async can't possibly help performance. You're strictly limited by disk I/O. Async will, however, cause irrecoverable corruption if there's a system crash or power failure, which was a source of great frustration with Linux before the journaling filesystems came along.
Ext2 can be read by nearly even operating system out there, and doesn't have the numerous limitations of FAT32.
Which, incidentally, is the exact same answer I gave a few months ago, when the last guy wrote an Ask Slashdot to ask the exact same question...
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Downloading Explore2fs isn't all that difficult.
Official or not, with Darwin and Ext2 both being open source, it should be quite easy for anyone who cares enough to want to do it.
With any archival process... T
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Is "sticktion" still a problem? (Score:2, Interesting)
If you leave a drive in a closet for 10 years, will it still spin up?
Non-IT answer (Score:5, Interesting)
If you want archival storage, you need to have your data on- or near-line, and rewrite the data to the "new" hardware every couple of years. By choosing a filesystem that is current, you are more likely to be cable to read it in a couple years than if you (try to) stick with a single filesystem. I know this sounds like a lot of work, but if the data is truly worth archiving, it's worth keeping both the storage mechanism and format up to date.
Worry about the hardware, not software (Score:5, Interesting)
Personally, I just throw stuff on external hard drives. 3-5 years later, the new drives are so much bigger, faster, and cheaper that it becomes economical to consolidate to a new drive. I still have data from a 286 that had nothing but floppies, an Apple ][e, and 2 dead Macintoshes. Even my old Windows 95 computer lives on as a VirtualPC image. I don't really use them that much, but the Apple ][e and 286 stuff is under 50 megs, and the VirtualPC image is 2GB. The images of the old Mac hard drives total less than 1GB... it's simply not worth deleting them and it's kind of fun to have my old computers still around, if only "virtually".
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Ext2, GNU tar (Score:2)
I use ext3 (Score:3, Insightful)
- it is much better and more reliable than FAT32
- it is both open source and (relatively) widely used, so I expect there will always be some way to read it
- it can easily be read by attaching it to any machine and booting some Linux LiveCD or bootable USB.
- the OS which traditionally can read ext2/3 is itself open source and also widely used, so there is no fear that it would become unavailable
For archival and backup, I feel all these advantages far outweigh the slight inconvenience that the disks are not readable directly by Windows and Mac, requiring either a driver or a reboot into Linux.
The important point is to label the disks very clearly. Otherwise, someone connecting them to a Windows or Mac machine may believe the disk is empty and re-partition/re-format it! I would not only put a big explanatory label on the disk's case, but also name the volume something like "Linux-..." or "Linux-ext3-...", and also explain to persons involved (manager(s) + people handling the disks) that they are not readable in Windows (some people don't read even big labels...).
Keep it simple (Score:2)
Tape (Score:3, Informative)
If it's your job, sure, you'll do it whether it's convenient or not.
If it isn't, you'll quickly get tired of messing with CDs, plugging/unplugging hard drives, etc. So I went with the most convenient media possible: tape. Stick a tape into the drive, walk away, store when it spits it out. It doesn't interfere with the computer's usage since nothing else uses tape.
For absolute convenience, get a tape robot from ebay. Then it can be completely automatic.
Filesystem: use plain tar to write to the tape. If you must use compression, compress files individually, not the whole tape.
Paranoid implementation: Tapes have file marks. You can ask the tape drive to give you file #1 for instance. You can use this to store some useful stuff in a format that will always be recoverable so long you have a drive that can read the tape. Store like this:
File 1: Text document explaining what's all this stuff, and what's on the tape.
File 2: RFC for tar format
File 3: RFC for compression format
File 4: source for tar program
File 5: source for decompression program
File 6: backup
A tape formatted like this should be readable so long a drive capable of reading the data in it survives. To ensure that, go with a popular tape format, which is reliable, open, and has a high capacity (so that it's unlikely to become obsolete too fast)
ZFS - FTW (Score:4, Informative)
I've thrown all kinds of problems at it, and it has yet to lose a single byte of data.
Add to that, taking snapshots every (x) minutes, you can look back in time as easily as reading a folder.
With RAIDZ2 in the latest releases, you can set up sets that can withstand the loss of 2 physical drives. If you couple multiple RAIDZ2 sets into a single pool, you've increased the redundancy even further. With plain old JBOD and multiple controllers, you can reach levels of availability that only expensive EMC/Hitachi/StorEdge systems have reached in the past.
It's opensource as well (although it's the Sun flavor at this time), and being worked on at www.opensolaris.org. I believe Sun is contemplating switching it to GPL at this time.
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What are your parameters? (Score:2, Interesting)
Do you need storage for years, decades, centuries, millennia, 10,000 years, or longer?
Do you need an indexing system based on content or just on title/filename?
Can the data be printed out or carved into stone without losing important information?
Is this a go-to-jail-if-you-don't legal requirement, a may-go-bankrupt-if-you-don't business requirement, or a save-us-a-bunch-of-money-nice-thing-to-have requirement?
Do you think the cost of res
for hard disk media? Sun's ZFS, hands down (Score:2)
"Why ZFS for home": - http://uadmin.blogspot.com/2006/05/why-zfs-for-hom e.html [blogspot.com]
"Here are ten reasons why you'll want to reformat all of your systems and use ZFS.": http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/1446/zfs_ten_reason s_to_reformat_your_ [tech-recipes.com]...
And some more technical explanations from Sun's Chief Engineer: - http://blogs.sun.com/bonwick/entry/zfs_end_to_end_ dat [sun.com]
My recommendation: HFS Extended (Score:2)
bad advice (Score:4, Insightful)
You mean like DEC or any of the other out-of-business dinosaurs?
As someone who has been through this, I can only say: do NOT buy anything that depends on "dedicated commercial support"; the companies and industry standards you think are going to be around for "20-40 years" are probably either not going to be, or they are not going to give a damn about you.
Use open standards and open formats, with multi-vendor support; that's the only way to go. And you need to keep your eyes open and move to new formats and standards as the world changes.
If LTO is the right choice, it's the right choice because of that. But I'm not convinced that LTO is going to be long-lived enough as a standard, no matter how many companies have tied their fortunes to it right now.
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