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Disabling Flash in the Browser?

Posted by Cliff on Wed Nov 06, 2002 10:29 PM
from the squelching-the-annoying-animations dept.
fishdan asks: "I know there are a few tools for selectively disabling flash in IE, but there is currently nothing in Mozilla. I'm wondering how many people have just removed Flash (as I have) by deleting the appropriate files? I find it greatly enhances my web experience, and on the very few cases when i think there is something worth seeing in Flash, I'll check it out on someone else's computer. I know someone is working on a 'disable flash from this site' for Moz X.x.x, but I'm wondering what people are doing now? I'm also actively advising people I know to remove Flash because of the lack of control for it on the users end. Short of deleting Flash, there's nothing uses can do to to stop those irritating ads. I don't mind the moderate ones, but the excessive ads are enough for me to throw the baby out with the bath-water."
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  • Just disable it (Score:5, Informative)

    by itwerx (165526) <itwerx@gmail.com> on Wednesday November 06 2002, @10:32PM (#4614102) Homepage
    Under the applications screen in your preferences. Flash is listed along with every other file that uses an external app. Just delete the association completely or edit the properties to prompt before running.

    Am I missing something here?
  • by tswinzig (210999) on Wednesday November 06 2002, @10:35PM (#4614119) Journal
    Funny, that's what Macromedia told me to get me to INSTALL flash!

    To answer your question: yes I deleted flash. When I need to see something done in flash, I load up MSIE. (Hell, it's already loaded in memory anyway, might as well use it for something.)

    I am of the opinion that the annoying flash ads are going to be what eventually "does-in" Flash. As soon as Mozilla makes it easy to deal with it -- and it will if people want that -- then say goodbye to our annoying, animated friend.
  • File me under flizame (Score:5, Funny)

    by JohnLi (85427) on Wednesday November 06 2002, @10:36PM (#4614123) Homepage
    Just use Lynx. That way you don't have to put up with those pesky "graphics" either. Plus, it probably runs like a champ on your 386. :) doh.
  • by epine (68316) on Wednesday November 06 2002, @10:39PM (#4614133)
    With great dilligence I avoided allowing Flash to install itself on my primary Windows machine. Then one day my brother came over with a friend, and five minutes later his friend had installed Flash so he could see the cheesy entry page to some mountain bike vendor charging $200 to the negative gram. Good work Dale, you made my virus of the month club. Actually, I'm not sure whether Dale is a virus or a trojan or a worm.

    I figure there's no hope for Flash ever becoming as useful to the end user after installation as it is before installation. Flash uninstalled is the easiest method of all for eliminating tons of obnoxious anti content.

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  • Junkbuster? (Score:5, Informative)

    by J'raxis (248192) on Wednesday November 06 2002, @10:44PM (#4614154) Homepage
    If you use JunkBuster, add this to the blockfile:

    /*.*\.swf

  • by one9nine (526521) on Wednesday November 06 2002, @10:45PM (#4614161) Journal
    Finding out the domain where the Flash is coming from then blocking it in my host file (i.e. 0.0.0.0 ads.doubleclick.com) Certainly not foolproof and it does take a little bit of work on your part but it usually works pretty good on sites I frequently visit.

    One big disadvantage though is that if the Flash ad is coming from the same domain you want to visit, you can't block it or you won't be able to view the site.

    You could also download a proxy to run on your machine and set it up to block Flash or specific URLs that point to a Flash ad. Again, this my be more work than you want to do.

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  • Here's my solution (Score:5, Informative)

    by hawkstone (233083) on Wednesday November 06 2002, @10:48PM (#4614182)
    I completely agree. I hate flash. I didn't install it for the longest time, but there's just too much out there, so I gave in.

    However, I have a solution. I found these wonderful little "bookmarklets" that work in mozilla. Find them here [squarefree.com].

    They are little javascript things that remove annoyances from pages, including blink text, javascript, embedded event handles, and even colored backgrounds and text, and background music.

    The one you want is called "zap embeds". It will kill all flash from the page you are looking at, leaving almost everything else intact. You can also use the vanilla "zap" which zaps Flash and some other stuff.

    I personally put a few of these in my personal toolbar. It's the first good use I found for that toolbar. Thus, one click away from killing flash on any page!

    IMHO, the perfect solution. Whoever wrote these is my saviour. Everyone should get these. :)

  • Removed the library (Score:2, Informative)

    by Chacham (981) on Wednesday November 06 2002, @11:01PM (#4614266) Homepage Journal
    Just like you, I removed the library file. However, if you'd like to turn it on and off, I'd suggest a simple solution. Rename the library (maybe libflash.so ?). Then, when you find a page where you want it to work, add a symlink to the library.

    After I removed the file, I found that in most cases I didn't want or need it. If the few cases where I did, I just used netscape instead of my uisual mozila.
  • Ad Blocker (Score:2)

    by madajb (89253) on Wednesday November 06 2002, @11:02PM (#4614270)
    Personally, I don't bother. I just use one of
    the many ad-blockers out there.
    Proxomitron in my case.
    It intercepts the flash, and replaces it with a hyperlink. Makes it easy in the rare event I need to view the flash (some online catalogs, the occasional game, etc.).

    And before anyone bitches, I don't block all ads, just the annoying ones, so I'm not taking advantage of a "free lunch". I can see the OSDN Self Serve Ad System banner just fine.
  • Privoxy (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06 2002, @11:12PM (#4614328)
    www.privoxy.org

    Privoxy will disable Flash. It will also let you add sites to a whitelist for the few sites that you do want to see flash on.
  • why the animosity (Score:1, Flamebait)

    by Naikrovek (667) <jjohnson@@@psg...com> on Wednesday November 06 2002, @11:56PM (#4614498) Homepage
    why do you guys hate flash?

    they're working on making the back button work, and all the other things you guys whine about.

    Flash isn't that big of an annoyance for me. For me, annoyances are things like getting my car stolen, or getting into a fight.

    You guys that think Flash is annoying need to step back and have a look at things.
  • Homsar! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by TheDanish (576008) on Thursday November 07 2002, @12:41AM (#4614743) Journal
    What? And miss out on Homestar Runner [homestarrunner.com], and, more importantly, Strong Bad e-mails [homestarrunner.com]? You're nuts.

    Personally, the last time I tried to install Mozilla, I had a harder time getting Flash ON it.

    No, I have nothing useful to contribute to this discussion. Carry on.
    • Re:Homsar! by TheDanish (Score:1) Tuesday November 12 2002, @09:52PM
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  • Use FreeBSD! (Score:1)

    by dru (4742) on Thursday November 07 2002, @12:42AM (#4614745)
    There's no Flash support on FreeBSD, but Mozilla works great!
  • This involves a restart but (Score:3, Informative)

    by jon787 (512497) <jon787&myrealbox,com> on Thursday November 07 2002, @12:44AM (#4614758) Homepage Journal
    I have a script that moves the flash plugins in and out of the mozilla plugin directory
  • by burnsy (563104) on Thursday November 07 2002, @12:47AM (#4614767)
    How to uninstall the Macromedia Flash Player plug-in and ActiveX control

    To manually uninstall the Macromedia Flash Player plug-in (Other browsers, Macintosh and Windows)

    1 Quit the browser.

    2 Locate the browser application folder on your hard drive.

    3 Locate the Plug-ins folder inside the browser application folder.

    For example, C:\Program Files\Netscape\plugins\ (Windows), HD:Applications:Netscape:Plugins (Macintosh), or /usr/bin/Netscape/plugins/ (Linux or Solaris).

    The exact location of plug-ins folder may vary depending on platform/browser.

    4 Locate the Macromedia Flash Player plug-in:
    On Windows, the plug-in is named NPSWF32.dll.
    On Macintosh, it is called Shockwave-Flash-NP-PPC or Shockwave-Flash-NP-68.

    On Linux and Solaris the Macromedia Flash Player consists of two files: libflashplayer.so and ShockwaveFlash.class.

    5 Delete the plug-in file.

    6 Restart the browser.
  • privoxy (Score:1)

    by innocent_white_lamb (151825) on Thursday November 07 2002, @01:23AM (#4614866) Homepage
    Just download and install privoxy [privoxy.org] It's available for both Linux and Windows, and it's based on junkbuster [junkbuster.com] but is much more powerful. The default settings will clear out 90+% of the banner ads and other distractions and you can fine-tune it to catch even more.
  • Cascading Style Sheets (Score:5, Informative)

    by MSittig (246604) on Thursday November 07 2002, @01:37AM (#4614903) Homepage Journal
    Harness the power of CSS. In your Mozilla profile folder, insert the following code into the userContent.css file:
    embed[type="application/x-shockwave-flash"] {
    display: none !important;
    visibility: hidden !important;
    }
    This should instruct Mozilla not to load any Flash objects. Bingo.

    Taken from this thread in Mozillazine [mozillazine.org].

    -ms
  • I use two browsers (Score:2)

    by splattertrousers (35245) on Thursday November 07 2002, @03:45AM (#4615202) Homepage
    I use two browsers: Mozilla for everyday browsing, and I fire up IE if I go to a site that requires Flash, Java, or JavaScript (and only if I trust the site and feel that viewing the site is worth the trouble).
  • Flash hogs /dev/dsp (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Spacelord (27899) on Thursday November 07 2002, @03:47AM (#4615208)
    For me, the most annoying thing about Flash ads is that they lock up Mozilla if something else is using the sound device. (for example if I'm playing mp3s in xmms) Mozilla will just hang until I free the sound device, no matter if the flash ad is really using sound or not.
  • by Fweeky (41046) <tom.hurst@clara.net> on Thursday November 07 2002, @07:58AM (#4615844) Homepage
    In Opera I just hit F12 p to disable plugins. Not great if you actually use other plugins, but it's easy enough to enable when you need it; otherwise just remove or redirect the swf MIME type entries in whatever browser you're using.

    Someone posted some CSS which should work in Gecko based clients and Opera (and probably others); just add it to your user stylesheet (Prefs -> Page Style -> My Style Sheet in Opera, userContent.css in your profile dir in Mozilla).

    You can use user CSS to kill a lot of other web based spam too - e.g. my anti-banner.css [aagh.net] nukes, you guessed it, banners. Opera still loads the banners with this, so it's a good choice if you want to support sites but don't want to see the spam :)
  • Why hate Flash? (Score:2)

    by obi (118631) on Thursday November 07 2002, @10:44AM (#4616817)
    I've been using Flash for a while now, and there's quite a few things I like about it.

    Its programming language has evolved to something pretty nice these days. I find it a lot easier to seperate the frontend and the backend using flash than using html. (html/php mixes too much code and look, and PHP->XML->XSLT->HTML is ridiculous, and buys you very little. The only thing that kindof works is relatively simple templates)

    The only thing I don't like about it, is that it doesn't "gracefully degrade", I mean it's still too hard to expose the structure/content/flow like you can with html.

    On the other hand, if I try to do everything by the book using standard xhtml/css/js, for the more complicated things I spend ages getting things to look/react right in the different browsers I want to support (IE Mac&Windows>5, Mozilla, ...)

    The fact that Flash is completely vector based is also a major asset, now that there's such a wide range of resolutions in use. (everything between 800x600 and 1600x1200 is extremely common - if I create fixed-pixel content for 800x600 I can guarantee you it'll look too small in 1600x1200)

    If I compare html and flash on features and general usability, I'd score both almost evenly: they both have things going for them. As long as I need to create simple information based sites, I use html. The minute I need to make something more complicated like a "web app" I use Flash.
  • Disabling Flash on Mac OS X (Score:3, Interesting)

    by jpkunst (612360) on Thursday November 07 2002, @11:15AM (#4617074) Homepage

    I went to /Library/Internet Plugins/ in the Terminal, and issued this command:

    chmod 600 Shockwave\ Flash\ NP-PPC

    Now the web browser is no longer allowed to access the Flash plugin. Simple, and good enough for me.

    JP

  • by MrBoring (256282) on Thursday November 07 2002, @11:26AM (#4617162)
    This has got to be the first *useful* ask slashdot in a really long time. It's the first one I'm actually saving, since theres lots of good responses to a problem I've always hated.

    To people who wonder why Flash is bad, or at least can be:

    * It gives the web developer way too much control over the user's screen, sometimes taking over the whole screen.
    * Rarely is used for anything useful, except for animations in my online chemistry course.
    * Is hard to temporarily disable, until this question was posted. Just do a google search on disabling flash. See how many hits will tell you how to do the exact opposite.

  • by jafuser (112236) on Thursday November 07 2002, @01:29PM (#4618259)
    I created two shortcuts, and put them in my "Links" bar in IE.

    Flash Off:

    C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\regsvr32.exe C:\WinNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\swflash.ocx /u /s
    Flash On:
    C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\regsvr32.exe C:\WinNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\swflash.ocx /s

    You'll need to adjust your paths to fit your system...

  • my experience (Score:1)

    by soreno (563079) on Friday November 08 2002, @03:44AM (#4623857)
    I used to always install flash whenever I did reinstall (yup - using Windows).

    Then I philosophized about my use of flash. I found that none of the sites I regularly visit requires me to have flash installed to view contend. However many of the regular sites use flash in advertisement.

    "Hmmmm" was my first thought - "Is this the only reason that flash got installed in the first place ?". I removed the flash plugin and my browsing experience has become much better.

    Whenever I do come across a site that requires flash to view contend. I just leave the site. If the site doesn't provide HTML it ain't got enough for me.
  • by jtedley (262022) on Friday November 08 2002, @05:43PM (#4629266) Homepage
    wow. i made slashdot. anyway, i just wanted to point out that the tool linked to in the question DOES work for mozilla. it works for any browser that uses a plugin that can be deleted or renamed.
  • Re:Ummm (Score:4, Insightful)

    by ProfessorPuke (318074) on Thursday November 07 2002, @04:11AM (#4615275)
    He's asking for a more balanced, flexible solution than a big boolean "Install Flash (yes/no)".

    Two big problems with your "just don't install it advice"

    0. If Flash isn't installed, then every time mozilla opens a page with embedded SWF files you get a dialog box "Click here to install the plugin". A painful interference, one that can happen several times per page if they are heavy on the Flash banner + Flash navbar + Flash mouseover miniad.

    1. Most Flash is for ads, but some sites present their actual content in Flash (web-cartoons), and many more work it into the intro-page or navigational frame so that Flash becomes a barrier to reaching the content. In both those cases, you'd desire a toggle-switch to quickly enable/disable Flash depending on whether you need to see it at the moment.
    (The zap-embeds bookmarklet trick is good, but not quite optimal)
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    • Re:Ummm by MSittig (Score:1) Thursday November 07 2002, @05:31AM
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