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Top 50 Science Fiction TV Shows

Posted by Zonk on Sat Sep 24, 2005 02:36 PM
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pbaumgar writes "Boston.com is running an article discussing their top 50 Sci-Fi TV shows of all-time. What are some of your favorites?" From the article: "Number 10 -'Sliders. 'Sliders' should have been a widespread hit, but it was ahead of its time. The show was about a wiz-kid genius Quinn Mallory, played by Jerry O'Connell, and his band of three companions who slide among Earth's alternate realities. Toward the end of the series, the show quickly slid in quality as three of its stars - O'Connell, Sabrina Lloyd and John Rhys-Davies - departed and were replaced by others. A tragic demise to a fine show." They don't even give a nod to greatest-trek-of-all-time DS9, so I don't know about this list.
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  • Sliders by El_Muerte_TDS (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:38PM
    • Re:Sliders by glh (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:52PM
      • Re:Sliders by Babbster (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:31PM
        • Re:Sliders by Ignominious Cow Herd (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:45PM
          • Re:Sliders by Babbster (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @10:18PM
          • Re:Sliders by glh (Score:2) Sunday September 25 2005, @07:54AM
      • Re:Sliders by sessamoid (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:34PM
        • Re:Sliders by DavidTC (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @08:53PM
    • Re:Sliders (Score:5, Informative)

      by JamesD_UK (721413) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:58PM (#13639405)
      (http://www.freecharity.org.uk/)
      I've heard John Rhys-Davies in person speak about his leaving sliders. It was several years ago and so I'd probably not even try and quote what he actually said whilst I was present, the gist of it was that he left because although he loved the concept of the series he saw it already going downhill before he decided to leave. I think he's been quite public about this and I managed to find this quote [sliders.net].

      "I like SF. I love intelligent SF," Rhys-Davies says in his deep basso voice. "When you come across good writing, and I think 'Scorpion' was finely written, it's a wonderful thing. I had just come through a period where the contractual nature of my job obliged me to take scripts that frankly wouldn't get past Writing 101. We had the most wonderful series concept with Sliders, but we did everything that had been done before and we did it every damned episode. We did Species. We did Tremors. We did Twister. We did War of the Worlds. We did The Island of Dr. Moreau. It was out of control, just out of control.

      "I think Tracy did a nice job early on. We had our differences and we fought occasionally. In the end, Sliders wasn't the worst experience I ever had. I was just disappointed. Again, I love SF. I'm a passionate believer in Sliders. The series could have been great. The public always understood the of Sliders. The public understood that you could go anywhere in the galaxy. The writers, though, would try to graft a Law and Order story, or something they had done or seen before, onto Sliders and just make the characters work around it."

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    • Re:Sliders by TheWanderingHermit (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:00PM
      • Re:Sliders by twiffy (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:38PM
        • Re:Sliders by TheWanderingHermit (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:23PM
        • Re:Sliders by Silicon Jedi (Score:1) Sunday September 25 2005, @03:08PM
          • Re:Sliders by twiffy (Score:1) Sunday September 25 2005, @04:07PM
      • Re:Sliders by deaddrunk (Score:2) Sunday September 25 2005, @03:09AM
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    • Re:Sliders by Seumas (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:05PM
    • Sliders: so much potential by gad_zuki! (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:28PM
  • Flamebait Squared (Score:5, Funny)

    by jpardey (569633) <(moc.liamtoh) (ta) (yedrap_j)> on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:41PM (#13639263)
    Slashdot is not a place for a reasonable discussion of Sci-Fi shows. This might hurt someone's karma...
  • ranking (Score:4, Insightful)

    by hungrygrue (872970) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:42PM (#13639270)
    (http://127.0.0.1/)
    Dr Who was relegated to number 8 while Stargate got number 6?! Something is very wrong with this list.
  • That's a lot of series! by Boss Sauce (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:43PM
  • No Max Headroom? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jdunlevy (187745) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:43PM (#13639275)
    (http://www.speakeasy.org/~dunl/public/)
    Wah??
  • Moore's still up there. by feyhunde (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:43PM
  • Um, hello (Score:5, Insightful)

    by scolby (838499) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:43PM (#13639277)
    (Last Journal: Tuesday November 22 2005, @11:44AM)
    There are better sci fi shows than Farscape, but there aren't 50 sci fi shows better than Farscape. What a horrible omission from that list.
  • I'm not sure of the list either. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by DarkBlackFox (643814) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:43PM (#13639279)
    Come on, they put the Thunderbirds in front of Futurama... That's just wrong.
  • Space Above and Beyond (Score:5, Interesting)

    by vspazv (578657) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:44PM (#13639282)
    It only lasted a single season but I really liked Space, Above and Beyond.
  • The sad truth is, by Elad Alon (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:44PM
  • MST 3K! by pin_gween (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:44PM
    • Re:MST 3K! by ikkonoishi (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:11PM
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  • Science Fiction? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Dionysus (12737) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:45PM (#13639291)
    (http://www.fjellstad.org/)
    They have a pretty weird definition of science fiction. I mean, The Man from U.N.C.L.E.? Mystery Science Theater 3000? Tales from the Crypt? Avengers? Batman? Buffy? Why not Friends while you're at it? I mean, a New York without any colored people?
    • Batman was WAY SCI FI by tempest69 (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:53PM
    • Re:Science Fiction? by unapersson (Score:3) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:07PM
    • Re:Science Fiction? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Red Flayer (890720) on Saturday September 24 2005, @03:09PM (#13639485)
      (Last Journal: Friday November 10 2006, @02:16PM)
      " They have a pretty weird definition of science fiction"

      The media industry, in deciding what genre a show is, can't slice the pie too fine, or the definitions become useless. They are more likely to define the genres according to audience, since that's what advertisers want to see. So, no Horror-fantasy, Horror, High Fantasy, or Historical Fantasy genre labels for us.

      Given that the media industry has so much influence on public perception of things, is it surprising that people slowly change how they label things to fit the media labels?

      From http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/Science_ficti on_on_television [laborlawtalk.com]:

      "There is some ambiguity as to what exactly "science fiction" covers in terms of television. In recent years, the term has come to cover any programme that deals in the fantastical or even merely the horrific, such as Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Charmed or Angel. More accurately these programmes are not science fiction as they don't involve any real scientific element, and are perhaps more comfortably covered under the generic term "telefantasy"."

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  • Buffy? by oxymor00n (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:45PM
    • Re:Buffy? by oxymor00n (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:03PM
    • Re:Buffy? by Slow Smurf (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:02PM
  • Science Fiction?!! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by nebaz (453974) * on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:46PM (#13639296)
    I'm sorry, and I'm sure this is beating a dead horse, but Superman, Batman, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, et als. are not SCIENCE FICTION. Granted, there may be a correlation between the viewership of said shows, but these shows don't even pretend to be futuristic, or contain a science element at all. Batman, maybe, but I hate it when people lump these things all under the "sci fi" umbrella. This is why we have all this horror shlock on the Sci-Fi channel and things like Farscape get cancelled.
  • No Lexx? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by satanami69 (209636) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:48PM (#13639312)
    (http://slashdot.org/)
    The top ten of this list I can agree with. Lost isn't even close to sci-fi, but man, how do you leave off Lexx from this list? Nothing grabbed my attention(and made me cover myself with a pillow) more than that show did.
    • Re:No Lexx? by ettlz (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:59PM
    • Re:No Lexx? by Nom du Keyboard (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:00PM
    • Re:No Lexx? by Tony Hoyle (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:17PM
    • Re:No Lexx? by Freexe (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:02PM
    • Re:No Lexx? by anticypher (Score:3) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:09PM
    • Thank God by pookemon (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:22PM
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  • I watched it [wikipedia.org] once, it was too alien to me.

    Synapsis: This head alien interrogates others [wikipedia.org] like it regarding its numerous abuses by Man. Freaky episodes about the aliens' fashion, body morphing in their latter life stage, even discussions about how they can get their alien race to win the Presidency [wikipedia.org].

    Eerie.
  • Max Headroom by Desert Raven (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:48PM
  • The Prisoner (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ettlz (639203) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:49PM (#13639328)
    (http://ettlz.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Sunday February 12 2006, @06:53PM)
    Greatest 50, my arse! Where's The Prisoner?
    • Re:The Prisoner by Oracle of Bandwidth (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:07PM
    • Re:The Prisoner by cowboy_small (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:12PM
      • Re:The Prisoner by pauljlucas (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:24PM
        • Re:The Prisoner by jspoon (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:46PM
          • Re:The Prisoner by ezthrust (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:11PM
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        • Re:The Prisoner by cowboy_small (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:37PM
        • Prisoner Not Sci-Fi? (Score:5, Interesting)

          by Thedalek (473015) on Saturday September 24 2005, @05:53PM (#13640663)
          Episode 1 introduces the balloon-like Rover, guardian of the Village. No technology like it existed then or now. Later in the episode, #6 is given an "electropass" which, by inferrance, amounts to a low range wireless transmitter, which emits a "key" signal to Rover, telling it to ignore the bearer. This is not dissimilar to current technologies which didn't exist in 1967 (such as bluetooth or WiFi).

          Episode 3 (A B & C) features "dream viewing" technology, something far beyond the grasp of even current technology.

          Episode 5 (The Schizoid Man) mentions and Episode 6 (The General) features an advanced AI in charge of predicting complex social patterns and forming brainwashing strategies. It is presented as being capable of answering any question, with the exception of one, insoluble by man nor machine.

          Episode 6 also features a concept called "speed-learn," a process by which a person can quickly absorb large amounts of information via a television broadcast. It is presented as giving a full 9-week class in the space of 30 seconds.

          Episode 12 (A Change of Mind) fatures a non-invasive form of neurosurgery, using highly focused soundwaves. Although the device is not used on #6, its functionality is demonstrated. Technology such as this did not exist in 1967, and likely does not exist now.

          Episode 14 (Living in Harmony) features a combination of hallucinogenic drugs and audio stimuli which produces an impossible effect with any known drugs.

          Many elements within the series are used frequently, including implied mind-control rays/beams/lights/sounds which induce instant paralysis, the precise location of The Village, and the unknown function of the teeter-totter device.

          And if the final episode (Fall Out) takes place in this universe, I want to know how.
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        • it's wikipedia by way2trivial (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:05PM
    • Re:The Prisoner by pauljlucas (Score:3) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:15PM
      • Re:The Prisoner by ettlz (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:25PM
        • Re:The Prisoner by pauljlucas (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:38PM
          • WTF? by khasim (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:24PM
            • Re:WTF? by pauljlucas (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:32PM
              • Re:WTF? by kevcol (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:52PM
              • Re:WTF? by STrinity (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:40PM
              • Sherman and Peabody by Derling Whirvish (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:24PM
            • Chimes of Big Ben by dexter riley (Score:2) Sunday September 25 2005, @12:16AM
          • Broad implications by antizeus (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:38PM
      • Re:The Prisoner by grahammm (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:52PM
      • more so than The Man from Uncle by frovingslosh (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @11:14PM
    • Re:The Prisoner by autophile (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:32PM
    • Re:The Prisoner by mikekreein (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:34PM
  • Too bad... by outsourced (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:50PM
    • Re:Too bad... (Score:5, Funny)

      by Kohath (38547) on Saturday September 24 2005, @03:09PM (#13639490)
      Yeah. Don't the writers know that TV is about pure, accurate depictions of science? You'd think they were trying to entertain us or something! Stupid unenlightened TV writers!

      That's why I only watch PBS and listen to NPR -- so I can be safe from entertainment and news about regular people.
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  • List is utter rubbish by JudgeFurious (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:50PM
  • Best sf show (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MsWillow (17812) * on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:51PM (#13639342)
    (http://home.comcast.net/~jeannenospam/ | Last Journal: Thursday October 18, @08:15PM)
    Hands down, Farscape. Well-thought-out, well-scripted, believable aliens, and an interesting ship. 'S a crying shame that the SciFi channel pulled the plug. I really miss it. It made cable tv worth the money - that, and F1 racing.

    Next best is an oldie: The Prisoner. If you're under 40, you likely missed it. :( #6 just refused to cave in, and he won... or did he?
    • What the frell by Oracle of Bandwidth (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:16PM
    • Re:Best sf show by Coryoth (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:09PM
    • Re:Best sf show by MsWillow (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:53PM
    • Re:Best sf show by MsWillow (Score:1) Tuesday September 27 2005, @07:19PM
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  • Idiotic List by Seumas (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:51PM
    • Re:Idiotic List (Score:5, Insightful)

      by LithiumX (717017) on Saturday September 24 2005, @03:24PM (#13639621)
      Shows like The Outer Limits and The Twilight Zone were not always sci-fi, but when they were, they were usually the absolute best. Cutting out these shows would be like cutting Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, and others from a list of the best rock music, because some of their music wasn't rock.

      I have never understood why so many people seem to believe that "sci-fi" must include aliens or space ships to be sci-fi. Sci-fi often becomes confused with fantasy.

      If we were to make a list of "best" sci-fi, and strictly adhered to them being actual sci-fi, I do not believe you could get a list of 50 if you limited yourself to television. In order to have a list with any meaning, you would have to seperate the truly great from shows that either failed entirely, or were never able to garner more than a niche audience. And because of the non-linear nature of the best specimens of sci-fi (Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, etc - shows that were not dedicated to sci-fi-only), you would be forced to either include these sometimes-sci-fi shows, or admit that your list just lost it's heaviest hitters.

      In such a list, I get the feeling that Farscape MIGHT only stand a chance of getting in. As for Lexx, First Wave, this new BSG, and many of the other shows experiencing a brief period of popularity or who have a dedicated and vocal but small audience... they wouldn't stand a chance.

      As for Stargate, I never personally got into the show, but it would most likely make it into such a list intact. It's probably the only currently running show that would.

      And dammit Star Trek SHOULD be at the top of the list. No one can say another sci-fi show has had a greater impact. Twilight Zone would be next in line, then probably Lost In Space (another show I never loved, but has stood the test of time).
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    • Re:Idiotic List by porges (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @09:19PM
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  • Remove Brain and Make Top 50 List by VarmintCong (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:51PM
  • firefly? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by cavetroll (602361) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:51PM (#13639348)
    I can't believe no one seems to have mentioned this yet, slashdot is not normally short of firefly fanboys. Not that it actually deserves top spot, that should belong to Babylon 5, with Blake's 7 in second, but IMO firefly should still have made top 10
    • Re:firefly? by Dr_LHA (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:19PM
      • Re:firefly? by evlgt85 (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:57PM
        • One season wonder?! by Godwin O'Hitler (Score:1) Sunday September 25 2005, @04:46AM
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        • Re:firefly? by Kelson (Score:2) Sunday September 25 2005, @01:52PM
    • Re:firefly? by extrasolar (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:36PM
      • Re:firefly? by Jubetas (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:32PM
    • Re:firefly? by Mercano (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:46PM
  • Glaring omission... by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:52PM
  • list as high quality as navigation (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fermion (181285) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:52PM (#13639361)
    (Last Journal: Thursday May 03 2007, @11:34AM)
    Well, this list is clearly just a cheap method to generate ad revenue, but if we give the paper the benifit of the doubt, I think the list is a bit daft.

    Xena, though a fine show, is hardly a science fiction. It has none of the technology, exploration of current social problems, or even exploration of various cultures. Pretty much it just a medeival cop show.

    Sliders was not ahead of it's time. It was just another huckleberry finn, star trek, docotor who knockoff with none of the redeeming factors. It is quite suitable for the adolecent maile, with a good role model, a pretty girl into geeks, and trivial story line. However, there are no layers that might make it interesting to an adult. The writing was woodden, even by scifi standards.

    One contemporary scifi show that is seldom mentioned is 'The Cape'. Based on reality, good exploration life, and how we might move forward. Much more interesting than anything I saw on that list, though the show only works if you ignore current reality, as is true for most scifi.

  • "The Invaders" is not on it? by Derling Whirvish (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:53PM
  • Maybe this list is worth a look by kentrel (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:53PM
  • Full Listing (Score:5, Informative)

    by scovetta (632629) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:53PM (#13639368)
    (http://scovetta.blogspot.com/)
    From scovetta.blogspot.com [blogspot.com]:

    50. 'Earth - Final Conflict'
    49. 'The Wild Wild West'
    48. '3rd Rock From The Sun'
    47. 'Buck Rogers in the 25th Century'
    46. 'That Was Then'
    45. 'The Greatest American Hero'
    44. 'Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman'
    43. 'Nowhere Man'
    42. 'Science Fiction Theatre'
    41. 'Futurama'
    40. 'The Thunderbirds'
    39. 'The Man from U.N.C.L.E.'
    38. 'Batman'
    37. 'Space 1999'
    36. 'The Bionic Woman'
    35. 'Battlestar Galactica' (Original)
    34. 'The Avengers'
    33. 'Lost In Space'
    32. 'My Favorite Martian'
    31. 'Alien Nation'
    30. 'Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea'
    29. 'The Six Million Dollar Man'
    28. 'Adventures of Superman'
    27. 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer'
    26. 'Stargate Atlantis'
    25. 'The Jetsons'
    24. 'Wonder Woman'
    23. 'Tales from the Crypt'
    22. 'Andromeda'
    21. 'Quantum Leap'
    20. 'The Hitchhiker'
    19. 'Dark Angel'
    18. 'V'
    17. 'Firefly'
    16. 'Flash Gordon'
    15. 'Logan's Run'
    14. 'Star Trek Voyager'
    13. 'The Outer Limits'
    12. 'Xena: Warrior Princess'
    11. 'Lost'
    10. 'Sliders'
    9. 'Mystery Science Theater 3000'
    8. 'Dr. Who'
    7. 'The Twilight Zone'
    6. 'Stargate SG-1'
    5. 'Babylon 5'
    4. 'The X-Files'
    3. 'Star Trek: The Next Generation'
    2. 'Battlestar Galactica' (New)
    1. 'Star Trek' (Original)
  • Ahead of their time by Nom du Keyboard (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:53PM
  • The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Celsius 233 (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:53PM
  • huh? by CrazyTalk (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:54PM
    • Re:huh? by Elad Alon (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:01PM
    • Re:huh? by Dogtanian (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:25PM
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  • holy sham, batman by sdnoob (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:56PM
  • The question is..... by SecularG (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:57PM
  • Why? by jswalter9 (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:57PM
    • Re:Why? by kentrel (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:04PM
  • SG and Xena???? by inmate (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:57PM
  • serious problems by NOLAChief (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:01PM
  • Not scifi by kentrel (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:01PM
  • ad revenue (Score:5, Funny)

    by boarder (41071) on Saturday September 24 2005, @03:01PM (#13639423)
    (http://slashdot.org/)
    1. Post list of top 50 things a geek cares about.
        1a. doesn't matter how accurate or well researched the list is

    2. Make list available one item per time on a page heavy with ads

    3. Post link to /.

    4. There is no ..., just straight profit from the geeks clicking through 50 pages of ads.
  • There's Something Really Scary About This ... by Lemurmania (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:01PM
  • "Top 50 Ad Impressions" by Laconian (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:02PM
    • Goddam right by heinousjay (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:56PM
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  • Where's the question by post_toastie (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:02PM
  • Sci-Fi? Nah, Fantasy.. (Score:4, Funny)

    by WarwickRyan (780794) on Saturday September 24 2005, @03:04PM (#13639443)
    ..and they missed the best fantasy show of them all [foxnews.com].
  • Who is number one? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Oracle of Bandwidth (528405) on Saturday September 24 2005, @03:05PM (#13639450)
    Where is The Prisioner? I mean it's not exatly Sci-fi, but neither is this list, and at least it was innovative.
  • The Whole List by Derling Whirvish (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:05PM
  • Any list that doesn't have 1-5 in this order... by fzammett (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:06PM
  • Bite my shiny metal ass! by w3weasel (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:07PM
  • top 4 by i chose another (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:08PM
  • Darwin Loves Lucas by Skraut (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:09PM
  • What about Farscape? by jacoplane (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:10PM
  • No MacGuyver either... by n3bulous (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:12PM
  • by Vthornheart (745224) on Saturday September 24 2005, @03:14PM (#13639533)
    "They don't even give a nod to greatest-trek-of-all-time DS9"

    Flamebait (-1)

  • Sacrilege... by Kaihaku (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:16PM
  • Star Trek?? by digital-madman (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:17PM
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  • Why not Spongebob? by gaanagaa (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:18PM
  • Im actually suprised nobody mentioned this...shame by HardSide (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:19PM
  • Criteria by Red Flayer (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:20PM
  • Not on the list by unapersson (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:20PM
  • Transformers by BRUTICUS (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:22PM
  • Jilted Again (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Burz (138833) on Saturday September 24 2005, @03:25PM (#13639627)
    (Last Journal: Saturday February 11 2006, @09:16AM)
    When will these Sci-Fi "critics" finally live up to their lofty edifice and recognize Lost Saucer as one of the greats?

    Someday, Ruth Buzzy and Jim Neighbors will get their due.
  • Twin Peaks by dTaylorSingletary (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:27PM
    • Re:Twin Peaks by drewz (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @10:54PM
  • What About Dr Who (2005) ? by wolverine1999 (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:27PM
  • Futurama got screwed by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:29PM
  • Dark Skies by n54 (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:33PM
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  • Time Trax by caseih (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:39PM
    • Re:Time Trax by MrPerfekt (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:16PM
  • consider the source by Shoggoth of Maul (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:40PM
  • fracking web editors by llZENll (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:41PM
  • Giving Star Trek #1 by SillySnake (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:42PM
  • Top N == media hype by nothings (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:47PM
  • Sorry, but this list is hopeless by rklrkl (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:48PM
  • Earth 2 by fishmasta (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:01PM
  • Eh... by DaltonRS (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:02PM
  • I Agree With Most of the List... by eno2001 (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:13PM
  • What about Mork and Mindy? by Mashdar (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:13PM
  • Secret Agent Man & The Prisoner! by spidey3 (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:14PM
  • Charlie Jade by stooker76 (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:17PM
  • they did a lot of things wrong on this list... by jimfinity (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:18PM
  • Red Dwarf by MeWhOeLsE (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:19PM
  • It;s really "50 greatest ads" by Animats (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:20PM
  • Call it by HunterZ (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:27PM
  • Zim! Spaced! by Mindslinger (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:32PM
  • Sliders not the same without Quinn Mallory by zhenga (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:32PM
  • MST3K! by Deacon_Yermouf (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:36PM
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  • Exosquad! by JANYAtty. (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:38PM
  • Nowhere Man was way down at number 43... by jbarr (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:39PM
  • You suck, Boston.com (Score:3, Insightful)

    by falloutboy (150069) on Saturday September 24 2005, @04:40PM (#13640241)
    This isn't really a story; its just a bunch of blurbs about show plots with actually no commentary whatsoever. I clicked through fifty pages of that nonsense hoping to find some meat to it, but I hath been led down a path of ad impressions and wasted time. From now on I'm boycotting all thigns Boston, except when the Sox play the Yankees, and then only to root for the Yankees. Thats right Boston.com, I said go Yankees.

    On a slightly more relevent note, I just marathoned like seven episodes of the new Battlestar Galactica on my DVR, and I think it might actually be the best show on TV, including those edgy shows on cable where they show boobies. Its that good.
  • What? by webrunner (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:41PM
  • What about "The 4400"? by thrash_ (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:42PM
  • What, and nothing about Ray Bradbury's Theater ??? by obarthelemy (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:44PM
  • Just a few off the top of my head ... by tdelaney (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:47PM
  • Six Million Dollar Man by Rob the Bold (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:47PM
  • No Farscape? by tuxlove (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:48PM
  • Obvious omissions: by AmicoToni (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:53PM
  • Lame, Lame, Lame by DavidBrown (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:54PM
  • The Inevitable Gripes by Zobeid (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:00PM
  • article? by whathappenedtomonday (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:01PM
  • Holy Shit by superspaz (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:11PM
  • Futurama number 41?!?! by jzarling (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:16PM
  • Babylon 5 below Galactica?! by Travoltus (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:22PM
  • Can I get a hit off of that? by rickwood (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:22PM
  • pointless list by Belseth (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:28PM
  • WTF? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by dtfinch (661405) * on Saturday September 24 2005, @05:29PM (#13640531)
    (Last Journal: Monday September 25 2006, @01:19PM)
    Number 27: 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer'

    Number 12: 'Xena: Warrior Princess'

    Xena better than Buffy? Both sci-fi?
  • DS-9 (Revisited) by pilsner.urquell (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:38PM
  • Same complaint, different top 50 list by east coast (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:39PM
  • Harsh Realms by iamcadaver (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:41PM
  • Perfect timing by ghost. (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:41PM
  • Looking for opinions... by east coast (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:45PM
  • Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex by X86Daddy (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:46PM
  • What?! No Farscape! by spamster (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:48PM
  • Sliders was garbage by Dun Malg (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:49PM
  • No Sapphire & Steel? by meehawl (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:49PM
  • Farscape.. by bezgin (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:51PM
  • Psychedelicious Space 1999! by DrEasy (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:54PM
  • Martin Landau as Walter Koenig? by HatofPig (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:57PM
  • Bigots. by Rickler (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:16PM
  • Stargate: Atlantis by bclark (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:17PM
  • Dr Who! by unlabeledchick (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:22PM
  • UFO by pipingguy (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:25PM
  • Crap list... (Score:5, Informative)

    Whaaa-waaaa--wwwwaaattt?????

    no Salvage, Blue Thunder, Airwolf, Knight Rider, Automan, Max Headroom or The Prisoner????

    • Re:Crap list... by zakezuke (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:25PM
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  • Where the hell is Millenium by Laz7 (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:03PM
  • Lexx, Lexx, Lexx, Lexx (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Dolphinzilla (199489) on Saturday September 24 2005, @07:04PM (#13641085)
    (http://home.cfl.rr.com/csduffey | Last Journal: Sunday September 23, @07:29AM)
    where the hell is Lexx? it makes my top 50 easily so does
    Time Tunnel, Land of The Giants and The Invaders

    There are a bunch of good SciFi series out there that far outranks some of the ones that made the top 50 -

    I love Linda Carter as Wonder Woman, but give me a break as SciFi it does not even rate a number IMHO !
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  • What about Kochak? by Kent Brewster (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:18PM
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  • How can they miss Blakes 7? by ericdano (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:38PM
  • WTF? No Farscape? by fatboy (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:41PM
  • Enterprise? by geekee (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:41PM
  • Sci-Fi on Radio by serutan (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:43PM
  • Gripe by TurboStar (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:55PM
  • Xena is sci-fi? by QuietLagoon (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @08:00PM
  • Been said before, but I still feel the need by JawzX (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @08:06PM
  • RED DWARF!!! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by brian0918 (638904) on Saturday September 24 2005, @08:28PM (#13641574)
    Nuff said.
  • CSI by CodeMunch (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @08:32PM
    • Re:CSI by flabbergast (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @11:01PM
      • Re:CSI by CodeMunch (Score:2) Sunday September 25 2005, @01:54AM
  • huh? by ezdude (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @08:34PM
  • Another "too bad this isn't on that list" by Otheus (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @08:42PM
  • Who are these idiots? by thelizman (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @09:12PM
  • NO ALF?! by leko (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @09:47PM
  • shocked, I tell you by dabblah (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @10:08PM
  • You'll never get concensus on a list like this by btempleton (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @10:10PM
  • What? by dswensen (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @10:20PM
    • Re:What? by phillymjs (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @11:40PM
  • It's hard to take this list seriously... by wahmuk (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @11:34PM
  • Dark Skies by cooperaaaron (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @11:35PM
  • B.S. List by HooliganIntellectual (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @11:38PM
  • sliders wasn't that bad by Cylix (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @11:50PM
  • DS9 not only not on list - it's dissed! by msjacoby (Score:1) Sunday September 25 2005, @12:20AM
  • Don't forget about the Tomorrow People by magpi3 (Score:1) Sunday September 25 2005, @12:27AM
  • Stupid, Incomplete and Inconsistent! by ElectroBot (Score:1) Sunday September 25 2005, @12:38AM
  • This list is just wrong. by eadint (Score:1) Sunday September 25 2005, @02:41AM
  • Top 50 Overrated Sci-Fi Shows by PietjeJantje (Score:1) Sunday September 25 2005, @04:01AM
  • Comedy and Horror is considered Sci-Fi? by MadMonkD (Score:1) Sunday September 25 2005, @04:18AM
  • Biggest 50 *US* Sci Fi shows - and not even that. by Qbertino (Score:2) Sunday September 25 2005, @04:57AM
  • List by Impy the Impiuos Imp (Score:1) Sunday September 25 2005, @05:35AM
  • It occurs to me by lloannna (Score:1) Sunday September 25 2005, @10:19AM
  • "outer limits" (classic) should be in top ten by peter303 (Score:2) Sunday September 25 2005, @10:51AM
  • Red Dwarf by Frantactical Fruke (Score:2) Sunday September 25 2005, @12:29PM
  • Freaks! by Sylven_1969 (Score:1) Monday September 26 2005, @05:48AM
  • SG-1 at six? by BenjyD (Score:2) Monday September 26 2005, @08:32AM
  • Taken miniseries! by objekt (Score:2) Monday September 26 2005, @10:36AM
  • What about "Odyssey 5"? by KatchooNJ (Score:1) Monday September 26 2005, @10:53AM
  • Babylon5 over Farscape? by pkbarbiedoll (Score:1) Monday September 26 2005, @11:29AM
  • Ultraman, Automan by pkbarbiedoll (Score:1) Monday September 26 2005, @11:48AM
  • 3rd Rock BUT NO RED DWARF?? THE PRISONER????? by pappy97 (Score:2) Monday September 26 2005, @07:16PM
  • What the hell? by lazarus2004 (Score:1) Wednesday September 28 2005, @12:56AM
  • hmmm 'Mystery Science Theater 3000' by spx (Score:1) Wednesday September 28 2005, @06:40AM
  • Quark by NYDirk (Score:1) Monday October 03 2005, @09:16AM
  • Re:DS9??? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Ismilar (222791) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:46PM (#13639302)
    (about:blank)
    But have you seen the list?
    A lot of those shows aren't Science Fiction.
    [ Parent ]
    • Re:DS9??? by abandonment (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:54PM
      • Re:DS9??? by LurkerXXX (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:46PM
        • Re:DS9??? by VagaStorm (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:23PM
          • Re:DS9??? by VagaStorm (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:31PM
            • Re:DS9??? by Eunuchswear (Score:2) Sunday September 25 2005, @04:32AM
        • Re:DS9??? by Crayon Kid (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:38PM
        • Re:DS9??? by ericdano (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:41PM
        • Blake's 7 by yuri benjamin (Score:2) Tuesday September 27 2005, @04:53PM
      • Re:DS9??? by magarity (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @11:15PM
    • Re:DS9??? by vsprintf (Score:3) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:01PM
      • Re:DS9??? by samkass (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:28PM
        • Re:DS9??? by vsprintf (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:04PM
          • Re:DS9??? by DavidTC (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @08:23PM
      • Re:DS9??? by Crayon Kid (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:40PM
        • Re:DS9??? by vsprintf (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:32PM
      • Re:DS9??? by Kelson (Score:2) Sunday September 25 2005, @01:39PM
      • Re:DS9??? by bynary (Score:1) Monday September 26 2005, @09:14AM
        • Re:DS9??? by vsprintf (Score:2) Monday September 26 2005, @05:10PM
    • The Complete List by Tatarize (Score:3) Sunday September 25 2005, @12:51AM
  • Re:I call shenanigans... (Score:5, Informative)

    by bryce1012 (822567) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:48PM (#13639315)
    (Last Journal: Sunday June 25 2006, @08:26PM)
    Um, they ranked the new BSG #2.
    [ Parent ]
  • Re:I call shenanigans... by republican gourd (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:49PM
  • Re:DS9??? by westyvw (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:50PM
  • Re:I call shenanigans... by SlayerDave (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:51PM
  • Re:DS9??? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Dachannien (617929) on Saturday September 24 2005, @02:52PM (#13639354)
    (http://www.unity08.com/)
    I don't see why a sci-fi series shouldn't have a soap-operatic quality to it. Babylon 5 (and, on its heels, DS9) showed other sci-fi writers that a long-term, overarching plot is well-received by many sci-fi fans. Witness Voyager, on the other hand, where the only thing tying the shows together was this "Oh Noes, We're A Bazillion Light Years From Home" thing, while five minutes before the end of every episode they pushed the Magic Reset Button to solve their problem and restore the plot to the way it was when the episode started.

    These days, every episode of Stargate SG-1/Atlantis and Battlestar Galactica (some of the most popular current sci-fi) is based on the entire series up until that point (in fact, the first line in most episodes of SG-1 these days is Chris Judge saying, "Previously, on Stargate SG-1...").

    Besides, the soap operatic plot of most sci-fi shows holds up to scrutiny a lot better than most actual soap operas: "I love you, but.... I have amnesia!"

    [ Parent ]
    • Re:DS9??? by thc69 (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:19PM
      • Re:DS9??? by dgatwood (Score:3) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:38PM
        • Re:DS9??? by thc69 (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:43PM
        • Re:DS9??? by Crayon Kid (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @06:45PM
          • Re:DS9??? by bynary (Score:2) Monday September 26 2005, @09:06AM
        • Re:DS9??? by Gilmoure (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @08:24PM
        • Re:DS9??? by Velox_SwiftFox (Score:3) Saturday September 24 2005, @08:24PM
          • Re:DS9??? by dgatwood (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @08:51PM
        • Re:DS9??? by synaptik (Score:2) Sunday September 25 2005, @11:14AM
        • Re:DS9??? by sartin (Score:1) Monday September 26 2005, @02:05PM
    • Re:Soap Opera, DS9, B5, BSG (Score:5, Insightful)

      by DickBreath (207180) <{moc.rewolfnus} {ta} {ynnad}> on Saturday September 24 2005, @03:40PM (#13639772)
      (http://slashdot.org/)
      I won't complain about the possibility of a Sci Fi being a soap opera.

      Babylon 5 was not a soap opera. Babylon 5 was a story. It has a beginning, a middle and an end. Towards the end of B5 you can definitely see all of the pieces being moved off of the board one by one.

      A soap opera is not going anywhere. Things just keep happening. You can keep it up for as long as you want. Characters can come and go. The basic direction can change. This is very different than a novel, or Babylon 5.

      DS 9 might be a soap opera. (I quit watching after 2nd season due to liking B5 better and had insufficient time for both DS9 and B5.) I don't know if DS9 was a soap opera. Was the story working its way towards any overall conclusion?

      This brings me to the new Battlestar Galactica. I wonder if it is like B5 in that there is a distinct conclusion that they are heading towards? Maybe so, but maybe they don't have a plan for getting there? Will they drive off into the ditch along the way and never get to the conclusion. I sure hope not. I would be very disappointed in investing time to watch it.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:DS9??? by MurphyZero (Score:3) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:05PM
      • Re:DS9??? by DavidTC (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @08:50PM
        • Re:DS9??? by usrusr (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @11:20PM
        • Re:DS9??? by Dachannien (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @11:34PM
          • Re:DS9??? by DavidTC (Score:1) Sunday September 25 2005, @08:33PM
            • Re:DS9??? by Dachannien (Score:1) Sunday September 25 2005, @10:40PM
    • Re:DS9??? by hobo sapiens (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:14PM
  • Re:DS9??? by hobbesmaster (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:53PM
  • Re:I call shenanigans... by Rialtus (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @02:55PM
  • Re:Not only is DS9 not on the list... by Oracle of Bandwidth (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:02PM
  • Re:Star Trek DS9 Was truly superior by n3bulous (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:04PM
  • Re:Star Trek DS9 Was truly superior by Seumas (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:07PM
  • Re:New BSG is #2? WTF? by t0xic@ (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:09PM
  • Re:DS9??? by murdocj (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:12PM
  • Re:New BSG is #2? WTF? by Oracle of Bandwidth (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:12PM
  • Re:DS9??? by BRUTICUS (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:14PM
    • Re:DS9??? by llefler (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:16PM
      • Re:DS9??? by Gilmoure (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @08:27PM
  • Re:DS9??? by NanoGator (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:19PM
    • Re:DS9??? by NanoGator (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:28PM
  • Re:overrated by MassacrE (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:30PM
  • Re:Mistake in Space 1999 Characters by Oracle of Bandwidth (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @03:42PM
  • Re:New BSG is #2? WTF? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by zakezuke (229119) on Saturday September 24 2005, @03:51PM (#13639866)
    Now I've tried it(Battlestar Galactica). Thanks to some of these people, I've watched MANY episodes of it, and I understand it less each time. How can even average-smart people put up with such terrible writing? Such stupid plots and stupider plot holes? Such transparent and flacid attempts to be edgy and gritty? Such... lack of immagination?
    (edit mine)

    In contrast to the origional series aka Wagon Train in Space staring Lorne Greene? A boy and his mechanical dog? And evil inverse video goat man? Making it a point to create perfectly reflective robots without regard to lighting resulting in having to use colored filters so you couldn't see the crew? Recycled special effects from the movie which employed recycled special effects. Not to speak of Galactica 1980 who had a group of kids farm with their super strength or play baseball and win to avoid detection from the goverment. Or worse yet "You're pregnant? How is this possible? Must have been devine intervention!" Can you say a transparent attempt to prevent kids from finding out where babies come from?

    I know there are fans of the old series who might be offended, but let's face it BSG 1979 had some awful moments and the new series in many regards is an improvement. I agree it shouldn't get a #2 spot. It's too new and hasn't had long enough to prove itself.
    [ Parent ]
  • Re:New BSG is #2? WTF? by eclectro (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:06PM
  • Not a TV show, but I have to mention by ModernGeek (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:26PM
  • Re:New BSG is #2? WTF? by arthurh3535 (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @04:59PM
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  • Re:DS9??? by zerojoker (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:02PM
    • Re:DS9??? by Nutria (Score:2) Sunday September 25 2005, @03:47AM
  • Re:Not only is DS9 not on the list... by TFGeditor (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @05:53PM
  • Re:Star Trek DS9 Was truly superior by STrinity (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @07:34PM
  • Re:I call shenanigans... by Gilmoure (Score:2) Saturday September 24 2005, @08:37PM
  • Stuntmen. by Grendel Drago (Score:1) Saturday September 24 2005, @09:23PM
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