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Helpful Stuff For IE7?

Posted by Cliff on Fri Nov 03, 2006 02:33 AM
from the forewarned-is-forearmed dept.
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Cycloid Torus asks: "IE7 is with us. It asked to be installed as a Critical Update this morning, so I decided to find out more about what was going on and if there are issues to this new and official piece of Windows XP. I found a site of known IE7 issues to be of use. Are there other sites with solid information which can help the wary from getting charred with this upgrade?"
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jimbojw writes, "Internet Explorer 7 was finally released this morning and is available via automatic update or download from Microsoft." And an anonymous reader notes stats on IE7 and FF2 downloads, adding: "Looks like FF2 is already outnumbering FF 1.5, while IE7 is having a hard time to find followers. Will today's release as a high-priority, force-fed update fix this issue?" The sans.org stats site will be updated throughout the day, so perhaps we'll get an indication.
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  • the uninstaller?!? i kid i kid... i am interested to see what kind of run this gives compared to the recent news about ff2 issues, etc. I think if ie7 had some great plugin base it could gain back some of those in the middle ground----
  • As a web developer, somehow they found a way to make IE7 even worse than IE6.

    All that PR that they had with the IE developer interview here on /. has not convinced ANYONE. He spent the whole time about talking how they listened to developers to determined what they want. Last time I checked I was getting a paycheck and you've done nothing, NOTHING to help.

    Want some examples? One person brought up CSS compliance (I don't care WHICH CSS standard you pick, but pick one for chrissakes) and he said, "oh de
    • Forgive me if you already know this, but I ran across this bit of info a few months back. You can put IE into "standards compliant" mode by using certain doctypes. For instance, this doctype will make IE use the W3C standard box model, where the "width" css property sets the width of the content area (excluding borders and padding):

      <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transition al.dtd">

      This makes writing a site that looks great in Fi
        • The disk copy is gone, but there's a copy in memory. Not so hard to understand, really...

          My guess is this already happened in IE6, and probably in Firefox as well... the same thing happens with browsing history. Though you clear it, unless you restart the browser the "back" and "forward" buttons will still work and remember the pages you've been to.

          Through the options window you can make IE ignore the cache and just load the pages every time... that's almost mandatory when working with web services and
          • The disk copy is gone, but there's a copy in memory. Not so hard to understand, really...


            You are nuts. Of course you can guess what it actually does, but it doesn't do what it is supposed to do.
            "Clear cache" means exactly that. It clears the cache. Not the cache files. The whole cache.

            In Firefox it works as expected.

            • I fail to see how I'm nuts. You shouldn't answer disrespectfully by default just because this is Slashdot.

              My IE6 doesn't claim to have a "Delete cache" option. It does have a "Delete locally stored content from disk" option (or something like that, my IE6 is in Spanish). My IE7 is at home, so I can't check it right now... so it might actually claim to do something it doesn't, I'm not sure.

              • I fail to see how I'm nuts. You shouldn't answer disrespectfully by default just because this is Slashdot.

                Sorry, I meant delusional. Seeing stuff that is not there. When you said "probably in Firefox as well" you assumed that Firefox would follow the behaviour of IE.
                Firefox takes care of this kind of stuff, and has a "privacy" funcionality that offers to clear the cache, and selectively other sensitive information. (Control-Shift-Suprimir)

                And I am not disrespectuful only because this is /. , this is just wh

  • Consistent CSS... (Score:3, Informative)

    by creimer (824291) on Friday November 03 2006, @02:55AM (#16700245) Homepage
    I just modified the CSS file for my website [creimer.ws] to fix all the crazy bugs in IE6. Loaded up Vista in a VM to take a look at IE7 and all the bugs are still there. Microsoft could have gotten their CSS support to be consistent between versions, or, better yet, correctly display validated XHMTL like everyone else. Honestly, I wish I could kick IE6/7 goodbye.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by moranar (632206)
      Is your doctype strict or transitional? I seem to remember IE 7 will only do "the right thing" if the doctype is stated as strict, so you might want to try that.

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by earthbound kid (859282)
        No, he's serving XHTML 1.0, which can be served as text/html if necessary, not 1.1, which cannot.
        • Of course just because you can doesn't mean you should [hixie.ch].
        • You both correct. XHTML 1.0 allowed to be served as text/html in the same way that you're allowed to use the <b> element. It's there if you absolutly must. Server it as such will cause the browser to treat it as HTML, completely. It may/may not render the same, and you won't get any of the features that XHTML provides (just like using <b> won't give you the proper semantic benifits).

          As for putting it into quirks mode: quirks mode is a rather quirky feature (go figure) and if in IE the doctype ha
  • Try F1. This is the only help available for IE7!
  • "The user will see a large window advising that IE7 is available to install, and the user will have three choices; install, don't Install, or install later."

    I installed XP tonight and when I checked for updates there was, in the midst of 60 or so others, an IE7 entry. I unchecked it and was told that I had disabled a "critical update" and was advised to reenable it. I didn't, so I don't know if there would have been this other option he mentioned.
    • After it downloads the IE7 update, regardless of how many other updates you install, it pops up a window. So, in this instance, the article or wherever you got that is correct.
      • "After it downloads the IE7 update, regardless of how many other updates you install, it pops up a window. So, in this instance, the article or wherever you got that is correct."

        thank you
  • Well I hope IE7 has some kind of extensions as Firefox/SeaMonkey has. Then it would be possible to build one which loads Java script frameworks (e.g. Dojo toolkit, configurable) in the background before it's needed by a page. Sure I hope Firefox/SeaMonkey is faster in implementing such a feature yet it only makes sense if the vast majority of users have such a feature. IMO this kind of background loading of frameworks is the missing piece for a broad use of AJAX.

    Tim Berners-Lee (http://dig.csail.mit.edu/bre [mit.edu]
    • Sorry, not true. I've got a virgin machine here in my testing lab, with a fresh XP SP2 install, and boom, here comes IE7.
    • Are you sure you (or someone else) didn't install the IE7 blocker? As I know it shows up in the windows update website, but since I disabled the *critical install* in my office network it will not be pushed through automatic updates (and it actually worked!!) However I know several employees HAVE seen IE7 push itself through via the critical updates yesterday (and these are people who wouldn't touch IE unless forced to, which I forced one to at the office so I could bugtest the webapp). so it IS pushing i

      • Seriously, can we get a Slashdot committee together to add "Old Ass Joke" to the mod system?

        The only changes that have been made to moderation since I got here (I know I'm not the most venerable, although I did used to have a 5-digit UID and if I could remember what the name of the account was I might use it) have been hiding karma, instituting a karma kap, and removing the reminder to metamoderate from the front page (recent). All of these changes are IMO negative. Don't hold your fucking breath.

          • Never mind, it's back. sigh. I wish they'd make up their fucking minds. That area has had some other crap in it for me for a couple weeks now, and it did yesterday, too. The only place meta-moderation has showed up for me recently has been on the page you see after submitting a comment.

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