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Backup Solutions for Mac OS X?
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on Sat Dec 16, 2006 02:50 AM
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SpartanVII asks: "I purchased a Mac roughly two years ago and have made the switch with a fair amount of ease. However, one thing that has troubled me is how best to backup my important data to an external hard drive. Right now, I have rigged up an Automator workflow that runs every night, but I have also seen software options like SuperDuper and Knox. Since the Automator workflow lacks much of the flexibility and features available with these apps, I am ready to try something else. What app have you come across that provides the best backup solution?"
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rsync, bash script, calendar event (Score:3, Informative)
Re:rsync, bash script, calendar event (Score:5, Informative)
Re:rsync, bash script, calendar event (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://ian.goldby.net/)
Any suggestions (or flames as to why my backup strategy will fail catastrophically) welcomed!
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Re:rsync, bash script, calendar event (Score:5, Interesting)
If you don't mind resetting creation and modification times of every file (not just changed ones) on the backup every time you backup.
rdiff-backup creates and maintains a copy of not only the current data but also keeps reverse diffs so you can recover old versions too.
It's extremely fragile. Any interruption in any backup and it will leave things in a state where manual cleanup and starting the backup over from scratch is required.
Retrospect will compress the data to save drive space, and it allows you to restore via a date of your choice.
It works great when it works. But it also has a nasty tendency to corrupt its catalog files, forcing you to run a "repair" operation on you backups. For disk-based backups this is not too bad since it just takes time; for tape you get to feed in all the tapes in the set so it can read them. This bug has persisted across at least 3 paid upgrades now. Not everybody experiences it, and I don't know what conditions trigger it, but I've seen it at multiple sites with different setups.
As for SuperDuper, I've heard only good things about it. Seems to be a very solid little product for individual backup. I haven't tried it because I need network backup for multiple machines. (I'm so frustrated I'm about 90% of the way to deciding to write my own!)
backups (Score:2, Informative)
(http://nyposse.net/)
rdiff-backup (Score:3, Informative)
(http://photo.net/photos/swillden | Last Journal: Wednesday July 19 2006, @01:42PM)
rdiff-backup creates and maintains a copy of not only the current data but also keeps reverse diffs so you can recover old versions too. You can backup to another hard driver or directory, or over a network. For remote backups, it uses the rsync protocol so it only transmits changes.
It's a command-line tool, so it's not very OSX'y, but it works very, very well. I use it to back up all of my machines, including some remote servers. I do it all with cron jobs, and all over network links, because that way I can just ignore it, but you can also run it manually if you prefer.
SuperDuper! (Score:2, Interesting)
If you have a firewire external hard drive, you can have SuperDuper! backup your computer's drive to it and if you should ever want to step back to your last backup or lose your laptop's hard drive, all you have to do is plug in the external drive, press option while you are starting up your mac, boot from the external drive, run SuperDuper! to copy all your files back and reboot normally when its done. You are left with a computer EXACTLY like it looked when you last backed up.
It can also handle drives of different sizes (assuming you aren't trying to copy 100GB of files to a 60GB drive) so you can also use it to upgrade your hard drive without needing to reinstall OSX or your applications.
I know it isn't FOSS, but it is still a reasonably priced, wonderful application and I reccomend it 100%
Cross-Platform Solution (Score:2, Insightful)
(http://inglorion.net/ | Last Journal: Thursday October 06 2005, @07:17AM)
Retrospect (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://www.mrghemp.com/)
We use it to back up our web and database servers. The high end products might be over kill but the Express version might do you right. Retrospect will compress the data to save drive space, and it allows you to restore via a date of your choice. Lots of scheduling and etc options. Works like a champ.
Synchronize Pro X (Score:2)
(http://www.macmerc.com)
rsnapshot (Score:3)
(http://www.ganfamily.com/)
Today shell scripts, tomorrow Time Machine (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't know about right now, but once Leopard comes out, I guess it would be Time Machine [apple.com]. Just wait until it starts shipping in the beginning of the next year.
If you don't want to wait or upgrade, write a shell script doing the job for you. I don't know what kind of experiences others have had with backup tools on the Mac, but Retrospect kept crashing on me when trying to run it. I wouldn't trust that kind of software to keep track of my backups. So I guess it's pretty much shell scripts or nothing right now.
Carbon Clone Copier (Score:1)
(http://www.tehsprawl.net/)
Required reading (Score:4, Informative)
http://blog.plasticsfuture.org/2006/03/05/the-sta
http://blog.plasticsfuture.org/2006/04/23/mac-bac
Maybe TimeMachine will offer an interesting solution...
http://www.apple.com/se/macosx/leopard/timemachin
[[requiring non-blank subjects is stupid]] (Score:1)
(http://www.jesnetplus.com/ | Last Journal: Wednesday December 27 2006, @11:31PM)
Surprisingly, many OSX backup tools aren't either. There's an extensive comparison [plasticsfuture.org] of many different backup programs for OSX and it has lists of exactly what the programs will backup/restore and whether or not those things tend to be important.
file vault and scp (Score:1)
i already had generated ssh keys and this worked well. i'd have it run three times a day.
however, i began to get thinking why encrypt my local home directory only to put it on the server unencrypted. so i've switched over to using scp to copy my entire file vault disk image once a week. i have gigabit enet from my computer and back to the server, so even a 15 gb image doesn't take too long.
Don't use Backup from dotMac! (Score:4, Informative)
(http://wordorama.blogspot.com/)
Backup crashed.
Tried again. Crashed again.
Backup won't restore more than one or two files at a time without crashing. It seems to be a memory leak, as it dies during a memory allocation routine. Granted, I had a lot of files and a lot of incrementals. But this is the JOB OF BACKUP! To be able to RESTORE my FILES! The files are there, I can see them (each backup file has a disk image inside it which you can mount manually). I just can't get at them systematically.
So, I contacted Tech Support. Got something like "wow, that's strange", sent my logs and such. It's been two weeks and I've heard nothing. My followup emails go into the bit-bucket.
By now, it would have been easier for me to have spent the last four nights manually mounting disk images and copying files over by hand.
Needless to say, I'm going with Retrospect as soon as I have something to backup again. Cancelling my dotMac account too.
ChronoSync (Score:2)
I'm happy to fiddle and tweak and produce home-brew solutions to many things, but not as the sole backup: The point of a backup program is to ensure that you have backed up exactly what you think you have backed up. ChonoSync provides a reliable and flexible back-up system. It is commercial ($30) -- which you may not like -- but they offer free updates to a reasonably priced product, and have been around for a while. Their customer service is also excellent: they provided a less restrictive demo for me to try, and provided a lost serial number in less than 24 hours. I have no affiliation; just a satisfied customer.
Retrospect (Score:3)
Oh no, not again... (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.gidds.me.uk/)
I'm no expert, but I can point you to a couple of interesting web pages by people who do seem to know a lot of the details:
- Mac Backup Software Harmful [plasticsfuture.org] and the earlier The State of Backup and Cloning Tools under Mac OS X [plasticsfuture.org] at plasticsfuture
- MacOS X Backups [dataexpedition.com] at Seth's Unix Tips
In short, there are lots of different backup and cloning tools, from the Unix cp, ditto, and rsync commands up to the free Carbon Copy Cloner [bombich.com], cheap SuperDuper! [shirt-pocket.com], and expensive Retrospect [emcinsignia.com]. And very few of them preserve everything. HFS+ carries a lot of baggage from the old Mac OS, and adds a lot more stuff from Unix: there are resource forks, HFS+ extended attributes, BSD flags such as creation date and owner/group permissions, ACLs, symbolic links, aliases, and lots more -- and almost none of the options can preserve all of those.You also need to think about what your backups are for and how much time and money you're prepared to expend: for some, burning a few personal files to CDR every few months will suffice, whereas for others an external HD holding a complete clone is the thing, and power users may need daily or weekly incremental backups with the ability to retrieve any file going back years.
Personally speaking, I'm in the middle category, with a large external Firewire HD holding a clone of each of my drives, which I redo every month or so. (Having it bootable is also a good idea, and has saved my bacon at least once!) I've mostly been using Carbon Copy Cloner, which has given good results, but I've recently switched to SuperDuper! which is cheap and seems to preserve absolutely everything. But don't take my word for it: read the linked pages, work out your needs, and make up your own mind.
But DO think about it! Disaster WILL strike in some form or other; disks DO fail (as I know to my cost), and you need to plan for it. It's not a question of how much time or money you can afford to spend; it's a question of how much data you can afford to lose!
Super Duper! and Unison (Score:1)
I don't see how Apple's Time Machine [apple.com] could make Super Duper! obsolete, at least for me. What if I can't boot anymore and needs to work now?
Deja Vu, it comes with toast (Score:3, Informative)
(http://k3v0.net/ | Last Journal: Wednesday April 02 2003, @03:10PM)
harddisk no problem (Score:2)
(http://web.lemuria.org/)
What I'm looking for and haven't found yet is something that'll do backups over the network, and is not
similar question (Score:1)
Shell scripts (Score:2)
OS X provides "rsync," which is one of the best tools for the job, and it works on most (all?) Unix-based platforms as well as Windows (using Cygwin). With rsync, you should definitely look into the following options:
--exclude (exclude file name patterns from being backed up. You don't really nead your web cache or other temporary files backed up)
--backup and --backup-dir=dirname Allows rsync to do incremental backups. Use a different "dirname" every day, like "Volumes/USB Drive/Incremental/2006/12/16" (for those files that were modified on 16-Dec-2006). This way, you can have backups of works in progress... I can't tell you how many times these incrementals came in handy! You should also have a periodic process prune the incrementals, as they start to add up.
The nice thing is that rsync can work over a network, which means that you can have it transfer your data to a separate machine. Thus, it's possible to have off-site backup in case of disaster.
As far as other utilities are concerned, they probably work, and might be more suitable for you, since "rsync" is definitely command-line oriented (and scriptable).
Good luck, and here's an "atta boy!" for even thinking about backup solutions... most people don't until it's too late!
Deja vu of course (Score:2)
(http://macwereld.nl/)
It uses psync (like rsync but with resource forks etc.) and is generally brilliant. I simply create an incremental duplicate of my entire hard drive to an equally sized other hard drive every day at 6 PM.
Silverkeeper (Score:1)
ChronoSync (Score:2, Informative)
atempo time navigator (Score:1)
Not practical for home use, but (Score:1)
We were finally given the go-ahead to try something new, and since our backup guy had been checking out Tivoli Storage Manager and really like it, we gave that a shot. I don't think I've ever had a smoother backup solution that worked for both our 800 Macs and our 900 PCs.
I've used NetBackup, Tivoli, and Retrospect, though I've never used NetBackup for Macs (we do at my current employer, but I've never touched it).
There's probably plenty of other good commercial backup solutions, but I have to admit that I was impressed. Things may have changed, since that was back in the 10.2 days, but who knows.
Built-in tools do just fine (Score:1)
It's fast, it's a pure copy, and it doesn't modify the access times of files on $SOURCEVOL. Make sure you're booted from a different volume and you use the "-erase" flag, though, or it can't unmount $SOURCEVOL and does a file-level copy instead. It still works, but it's a lot slower (and I'm not sure if it's modifying last-access times or not).
Technically, you can do the same thing with Disk Utility, I think, but I've been using asr.
`man asr` for the gory details.
Retrospect if you're serious (Score:1)
I use Retrospect 6.1 to run nightly incremental backups of four Macs to two separate Linux machines on alternate nights (Raid 1 on the cheap, I guess). I do have to check every week or two to be sure that Retrospect hasn't wedged. The user interface is way too complicated, but I've come to terms with it over the last six or seven years. I used to have full backups scheduled, but they take quite a long time and frequently either wedged or took so long that they interferred with the other backups. I don't have super regular "off-site" backup, but my house hasn't burned down yet. (We all use laptops as our main computers, so I do keep an external drive at our vacation home and run backups when we take our laptops out there. )
I've not only recovered indivudual files accidentally deleted or damaged but recovered from three complete drive meltdowns with no loss of work in two cases and only a few hours worth in the third, so I consider it worth the time and money.
In summary, if you don't actually do the backups, you're toast. If your work or your time is worth money, you can't afford not to do backups, and you shouldn't hesitate to spend some money. And finally, if you haven't done a restore from your backups, it is practically guaranteed that they don't work.
Try Backuplist+ (Score:2)
(http://geocities.com/cellocgw | Last Journal: Friday April 16 2004, @01:54PM)
I have used Impression and SuperDuper (Score:1)
(http://www.marketingtactics.com/)
I used Impression for over a year and really liked it. I used it because it did verification of the data written and this feature was very important to me. Unfortunately, Impression became an orphan and I switched to SuperDuper.
Fortunately, Impression has a new parent and is no longer an orphan. You can buy it at http://www.ineedyoursoftware.com/ [ineedyoursoftware.com] .
I am sticking with SuperDuper for now as it extremely easy to use.
Both programs back up to standard Mac files so retrieval is not dependent upon any special software.
Amanda or other UNIX backup software (Score:2)
(http://www.scarydevil.com/~peter/ | Last Journal: Monday September 26 2005, @06:53PM)
tolisgroup bru le (Score:1)
Déjà Vu - For my money !! (Score:1)
(http://www.zucom.com/ | Last Journal: Monday July 30, @09:01AM)
-ZuCom [zucom.com]
.Mac? (Score:2)
Several Options (Score:2)
(http://www.lkmc.ch/)
SuperDuper is nice. Personally, I use Synk Backup from decimus [decimus.net]. There's also Retrospect for professional backup, and of course, Mac OS X 10.5 will include its own Backup functionality called Time Machine [apple.com].
Avoid Apple's current Backkup app, as it sucks.
psyncx (Score:1)
(http://thirdrate.com)
at my last job, i backed up a machine using retrospect and an exabyte loader and it was weeks of headaches. nothing went right at all.
psyncx doesn't have the complex options of something like retrospect, but it's perfect for the user of a single machine who wants a basic backup - selected folders or drives copied to another location - done on a schedule of manually, using inexpensive shareware software.
Bacula (Score:2)
(http://storyinmemo.com/)
or try (Score:1)
Free Backup Solution (Score:1)
Phew! (from Substance Software) (Score:1)
Don't forget off site backup (Score:2)
1. Nightly rsync of my iMac and powerbook to a hard disk connected via firewire to my iMac (runs from cron)
2. Plans to install rsnapshot [rsnapshot.org] to shorten the window of exposure from 1 day to 1 hour. Used to use this on Linux with great success, fully expect that this will work well on OS X.
3. I bought 2 firewire/USB drive enclosures, and populated them with PIDE drives. I keep one, and gave my sister one. The enclosures are identical and the drives are partitioned with one Windows partition and one OS X partition. When I see my sister (a few times/year) we trade enclosures. I rsync my home movies/pictures/music to the OS X partition, and she uses the "freeware" SyncBack [2brightsparks.com] to back up her data
The only down side to this approach is that I'm limited in backup size to ~140GB unless I'm willing to pony up for a pair of SERIOUS TB sized drives. In general it's not a big deal - I suppose I could end up losing my home movies of my kids - that's what really eats up disk space. Guess I need to archive my tapes to the safe deposit box.
The idea that I'll be able to easily recover my data if my house burns down brings me great comfort. The cost is fairly minimal and the level of effort is pretty low, too.
Re:The best one is a command line tool. (Score:2, Funny)
SilverKeeper is actually more flexible than that (Score:1)
Re:My rsync setting for backup works great! (Score:2, Informative)
(http://www.gnomejournal.org/)