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A Digital Picture Frame Without the Lock-In? 96

The Cisco Kid asks: "My mom, bless her soul, doesn't quite get the concept of digital photography. She always complains that we never print them out for her, and gets completely flustered at the idea of looking at them on a computer. I'm thinking of getting a digital photo frame for her, only I can't seem to find one that fits the bill. I am aware of the possibility of building one, and may end up going that way (most likely using a laptop), but I'm really hoping I can find a consumer one that meets my needs — and that's where things get tricky." One of the major features that is required is the ability to update the frame over the network, without the need of any third party software. Has anyone seen a digital picture frame that doesn't tie you to a piece of proprietary software or a proprietary network?
"I'd like to be able to hang it on the wall, and leave it there, so I want to be able to update/add pictures to it over either a wireless or wired network. I've found very few that have networking capabilities, but I can't seem to find any documentation as to what application-layer protocol they use. For example, I've found one that only connects to the manufacturer's website, to which you must subscribe — there is no option to use the network, directly. Kodak seems to only support using their proprietary Windows-only software for controlling or updating their frames (and I don't use Windows).

Is anyone aware of anyone that makes a reasonably priced digital frame that has networking and uses open protocols? Or should I expect to be taking apart the display hinge of a used laptop in the near future?"
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A Digital Picture Frame Without the Lock-In?

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  • Flash memory card? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by bernywork ( 57298 ) * <.bstapleton. .at. .gmail.com.> on Thursday May 24, 2007 @08:05PM (#19262699) Journal
    I know it's a pain, but there are a few out there with flash memory cards, can't you talk your mum through copying files to a memory card?

    It's the best option out there I have seen and know of a few people who have made this work with parents. You could even send her a memory card with photos on it so that she can just put the memory card in and turn it on.

    I would throw in a couple of links at this point to different products, but I have no idea where you are, so giving local product is a little difficult..
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Chanc_Gorkon ( 94133 )
      NO! Better yet, just send mom a new memory card every month and bam....new pictures of the kiddies! NO network required and it's something MOM might understand!
    • GEESH! Missed that part! Anyway, Walmart has one of these for about 99 bucks. Been thinking about getting one for my desk at work.

  • Use a DVD Player (Score:5, Interesting)

    by maxwells_deamon ( 221474 ) on Thursday May 24, 2007 @08:05PM (#19262705) Homepage
    We gave my mother in law a portable DVD player.

    The one we bought takes CDs with pictures on them and also takes SD cards

    It will run them as a slide show, I assume that will work

    You have to be a little carefull how you format things and send the photos to her but it does work and requires no subscription.

    • by plover ( 150551 ) *
      A couple of years ago I gave my father-in-law an ordinary DVD player, and burned DVDs of thousands of his photographic slides. That year DVD players were like $60 at Target (they're much cheaper now.) In subsequent years I burned more DVDs of more of his slides, and gave those as presents to him and the rest of the family.

      That said, I have an old Ziga digital frame on my desk. The resolution is crappy and the colors are awful, and I have to burn my pics to a CF card, but I still like having it. Every

  • A few out there (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 24, 2007 @08:10PM (#19262769)
    http://www.photovu.com/ [photovu.com] - expensive but nice. There are others out there.

    http://www.boyink.com/splaat/comments/diy-digital- picture-frame/ [boyink.com]

    Yadda yadda google works wonders for this :P
    • I bought the Matsunichi Photoblitz 7'' [amazon.com] photoframe with 1GB sd card for 80 bucks in total (from amazon). Works very well. It does not have any networking protocol, but I consider it a plus - keeps the price down. Since memory cards are so cheap, might as well pop for a couple more and get it done with.
    • Buy a used iMac. Old G4 iMacs for $200 less can be found on the web. (Often sold out, I wonder why.)

      No, bite the bullet and start taking that old notebook apart.

      The frame is not hard. The ports are right there.

      xubuntu.

      Customize the screen saver.

      Done.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 24, 2007 @08:10PM (#19262773)
    I can't wait to goatse.cx all of my neighbor's wireless digital picture frames.
  • by g1zmo ( 315166 ) on Thursday May 24, 2007 @08:14PM (#19262823) Homepage
    I bought one (Coby, I think) for my own mother last year, and it uses a CF card for storage. You just put all of your pictures on the card and stick it in the back of the frame and it automatically displays them slideshow-style. It has a little remote control you use to configure various settings like slideshow speed, or to just display a certain image or whatever. It has a 7" screen and cost about $70. I just wish it had batteries so there isn't an ugly power cord hanging down the wall or over the edge of the desk.
    • Got a similar one. LCD used analog scan (could make out the scan lines) and the brightness/contrast wasn't so hot. To boot, the cheap little tube died after 6 months of use.

      I have another one (same make/model) for sale- yours for 70$.

      Most of the time the resolution is just too low on these units to be worth much. Nothing lower than 1024x768 or you'll regret it. High quality LCD panels are expensive, but it is possible to drive (say) a 17" panel for 200$ plus a cheap computer (such as the VIA Micro board
  • estarling (Score:5, Informative)

    by grapeape ( 137008 ) <mpope7 AT kc DOT rr DOT com> on Thursday May 24, 2007 @08:15PM (#19262839) Homepage
    Its a bit pricy but the eStarling frames have usb/media card and wifi support. You can upload pictures to a flickr, picasa, webshots, etc photosite and click to download them to the frame. They work pretty well, I picked up one for my grandmother and she seems to enjoy it.
    • Re:estarling (Score:4, Informative)

      by mobby_6kl ( 668092 ) on Thursday May 24, 2007 @08:24PM (#19262951)
      I just wanted to post the same suggestion. I don't have one, but I've seen it a while ago on ThinkGeek [thinkgeek.com]. Looks very nice and basically what the original poster asked for, although I'm not quite sure about the widescreen LCD. Most of my photos are 4:3, so they'd probably leave some screen space unused with black vertical bars unless it does some kind of ugly stretching or uses the space to show thumbnails or something.
      • Re:estarling (Score:4, Informative)

        by Phisbut ( 761268 ) on Friday May 25, 2007 @09:36AM (#19268911)

        I just wanted to post the same suggestion. I don't have one, but I've seen it a while ago on ThinkGeek. Looks very nice and basically what the original poster asked for

        While it's pretty close, it's exactly what the original poster does not want. From the spec list :

        Frame Setup requires you to run the included software on a Windows 2000/ME/XP compatible PC.
        • There is Mac software now, and it's a one-time setup. After that, you configure the frame through the eStarling web site -- including setting up RSS feeds, email filters, etc.
    • by dwater ( 72834 )
      Shame it doesn't have a wired connection. I have it mind for someone who is a little dubious about the EM radiation of Wifi.

      Is there one with an RJ45?

      Max.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      Gizmodo had a recent review [gizmodo.com] of the second rev eStarling, and had some pretty unkind things to say. FTFA:

      The piss-poor image quality of this LCD panel made all that completely unimportant. The eStarling's screen is absolutely unacceptable. We tried displaying digital pictures of all different resolutions and aspect ratios on it, and all of them looked like we were viewing them on a cheap TV set. Yes, the images were in color, but that's about it. The display was just downright dim, blurry, and you could see

  • Just get prints (Score:5, Insightful)

    by KillerCow ( 213458 ) on Thursday May 24, 2007 @08:26PM (#19262967)

    My mom, bless her soul, doesn't quite get the concept of digital photography. She always complains that we never print them out for her,


    I know that this doesn't answer the question that you've asked, but why don't you just print them? There are kiosk machines in lots of places now that print at photo quality. Prints are on the order of 20 cents each for a 4x6. I use them. They're great.

    Your mom is more comfortable with prints, don't try to force an unwanted solution on her.
    • Re:Just get prints (Score:4, Insightful)

      by heinousjay ( 683506 ) on Thursday May 24, 2007 @08:40PM (#19263149) Journal
      You'd think that would be the obvious answer. Technology for technology's sake doesn't really fly outside of geek circles.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Jeff DeMaagd ( 2015 )
        I think that's the problem with Slashdot and other sites. Too often, I see suggestions that only make sense within the "bubble" of that site.
        • by Phisbut ( 761268 )

          I think that's the problem with Slashdot and other sites. Too often, I see suggestions that only make sense within the "bubble" of that site.

          That sure sounds like the Complicator's Gloves [worsethanfailure.com] story.

    • Re:Just get prints (Score:4, Informative)

      by acroyear ( 5882 ) <jws-slashdot@javaclientcookbook.net> on Thursday May 24, 2007 @08:58PM (#19263321) Homepage Journal
      warning on those kiosks: their card readers suck and may break your card. don't use your "originals" - take it home and burn a cdrom and take that to the shop to print.

      one at the nearby kinkos totally destroyed my SD card of everything i shot from a particular vacation.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Or just use an on-line service. I upload the pictures to have the printed and have them delivered to my mother's house. Doesn't get easier than that
      • by jebell ( 567579 )
        Some places, like Walgreens, will even allow you to order the prints online and pick them up at whatever brick-and-mortar store is closest to you. Often, even on the same day.
    • Or use snapfish. I like it a lot and is very cheap.
    • Re:Just get prints (Score:5, Interesting)

      by DerekLyons ( 302214 ) <fairwater@@@gmail...com> on Thursday May 24, 2007 @09:33PM (#19263657) Homepage
      That's exactly what I was thinking - if the author's mom wants prints, why not give them to her? Why force a gadget on her (which can break, batteries can run down, etc... etc...) that she doesn't want? Not to mention that prints have not only have no lock-in, she can pick here own frames, mattes, etc... to match her decor and tastes.
       
      My mom (who gets both digital photography and computers) owned, briefly, a digital frame - and then trashed it after about a year. She has photos, old and new, all around the house - there was no way a single digital frame could replace all those, and the cost of well over a hundred digital frames (not to mention the maintenance) was simply out of the question. Nor is a slide show always a viable option.
       
      When we were visiting in March, Mom had just finished a wonderful 'diorama'. On an end table were pictures of her dad (who died in 1987), pictures of her and her siblings growing up that featured them and Grandpa, and pictures of us kids with Grandpa. It was lit with his reading lamp - and the centerpiece was his Bible, opened to his favorite passage and with his reading glasses laid on top. A slide show wouldn't have near the impact as that little grouping of carefully selected frames and photographs. While we were visiting them, she was happily redoing her 'family' wall - a careful grouping of photographs of us kids[1] and her grandkids. (She needs to make room for pictures of the new grandbaby due in June.) I spent a wonderful afternoon helping her and reminiscing about when and where some of the photographs were taken. She doesn't want a slide show there - that would leave an empty wall. She just wants to have her photographs arranged and sized as she wants them. (And if the size or cropping doesn't suit her, Dad has a Mac, a high end scanner, several graphics and photoediting programs, and a high end printer - and Mom knows how to use 'em all.)

      There's a time and place for geek cool - and a time and place for more traditional methods. The choice should be left to [the author's] Mom, not forced on her.

      [1] Including one picture she just loves, which is also then one picture of me worse than any driver's license photo ever taken - my boot camp portrait. (Taken in the second week of boot camp when I was still shell shocked and waaay short on sleep.) If I could wave a magic wand and make just one picture of me disappear from human memory - that would be the one.
    • Costco (Score:5, Informative)

      by lorcha ( 464930 ) on Thursday May 24, 2007 @09:46PM (#19263811)
      I usually just upload some pics to Costco and have them ship 'em to my parents. Free shipping, cheap prints. Very easy.

      Mom seems to like them.
      • by cgenman ( 325138 )
        Nice idea. I just did some poking around, and found a place [yorkphoto.com] that does 40 free photos and what appears to be flat-rate shipping upon sign-up. I sent off a batch to my mother, but does anyone have any experience with York?

        • I used to use York Photo to process my film several years ago. Good price, good processing, good reliability. I have not used their digital services though.
        • by lorcha ( 464930 )
          I've heard good things about them, but have never tried them myself.
        • by Rhindle ( 567803 )
          York, Clark, Mystic, and Snapfish are all the same company (District Photo). In my experience, their digital prints are acceptable and better than what I've gotten at the one-hour photo departments in Walmart and Target.
    • by ypps ( 1106881 )
      It may be a good idea to even locate a few real photo labs where people develop your photos from a CD/DVD to prints. Try ordering a few prints from those and see if any of them are worth the price they charge. If those shops are still alive where you live, of course.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Eideewt ( 603267 )
      My thought as well. Digital photography is pretty cool, but sometimes nothing beats having the artifact. Instead of trying to convince your mom that she'd rather have a digital frame, just print her some photos.

      You also might (in addition to printing) set up a slide show screen saver for her. My grandmother enjoyed that a lot (as would I, if I were a photo person).
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Dachannien ( 617929 )
      Actually, she prefers her photos chiseled into stone slabs. Do you know what it's like trying to find a prehistoric bird with a USB port?
      • by Alsee ( 515537 )
        You had stone slabs?

        Why, when I was a kid our pictures were wisps of hydrogen gas held together by magnetic fields.

        I remember the excitement that first day pictures started coming in hydrogen and helium!

        -
  • by GiMP ( 10923 ) on Thursday May 24, 2007 @08:43PM (#19263175)
    My pandigital not only accepts every media card out there, but it can act as a USB mass storage device with its own internal memory. If you really wanted to, you could take a PanDigital (or another frame that acts as Mass storage device), connect it to a single board computer, and.. voila!

    Of course, a SBC with USB will easily cost over $50, maybe $100. Even if altogether it costs $200 for the frame and the SBC, thats still probably better than you would've paid for a basic frame even a year ago, let alone how much decent SBC's have dropped in price!
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by jddj ( 1085169 )
      Well, calculate in the whole price.

      With a Ceiva (lockin, updates via phone lines) You're dropping $100-$150 on the frame, and $100 a year for the service - for a very limited service, IMHO - the frame isn't that great and you only get 20 pictures on it (on my Dad's anyway).

      So for 2 years of service, you're already into over 3 bills - that SBC with Wi-Fi is looking better and better - though that may also mean plumbing the parent's place with broadband, adding a router...

      Yeah, printing out 4x6es is looking b
    • My wife went to Costco and bought me an 8" Pandigital frame for my early Father's Day present.

      It has 800x600 resolution, a card reader, plays MP3's, and videos (I've only tried AVI's, but it works pretty well)...and it's a USB host and client.

      it's pretty slick, and with 128MB of memory, it can hold a LOT of 1024x768...so, I didn't even bother buying another card because after resizing 100 6MP pictures down to 1024x768, I still have over 120MB free.

      (I size the pics at 1024x768 so I can zoom in to the picture
  • I have no personal experience with them, but the i-mate momento line seems to be somewhat well received. I'm actually in the same market as you, and my feeling on the market is that none of them are actually very good products yet. The market is shockingly poorly developed considering how long digital photo frames have been around. None of them seem to be able to provide even a minimum level of acceptability without some outrageous gaffe. Widescreen on a photo frame? Terrible resolutions? I just don't
    • Widescreen on a photo frame?

      Um, a 4x6" print is roughly 10.5:16 or, landscape style, 16:10.5. Sound pretty close to 16:9 (widescreen)? Closer than 4:3? That may be a clue... ;)

      • 4x6" landscape style is 6:4. The lowest common denominator of 6/4, 4/3, and 16/9 is 36, giving 54/36, 48/36, and 64/36, respectively. We can now see that 16/9 is 10/36 from 6/4, while 4/3 is 6/36 from 6/4. So a 4:3 screen is closer. And, mathematically at least, a better fit.

        Aesthetically, that's up to you. With, for example, a 4:3 screen that's exactly 6" wide, its height will be 4.5", calling for 0.25" tall black bars top and bottom. With, for example, a 16:9 screen that's exactly 4" tall, its width will
  • Take an old notebook PC, disassemble the hinge so you can mount the display front-side-out, put Linux on it, and ta-daa!
    • by Scutter ( 18425 )
      Yeah, I built one of these once. Once. You left out a few steps. And by a few steps, I mean a *lot* of steps. A lot of very annoying, time consuming and painful steps. I'm guessing the OP didn't want a DIY solution.
      • by Joe U ( 443617 )
        It's not worth it to modify the hardware. It might be easier to put the thing in a fancy wooden case of some sort to hide the base.

        If you do it right, you can make it look like a jewelery box, with, um, a screen sticking out of the back. Ok, the idea needs work.

        • by Scutter ( 18425 )
          It's not worth it to modify the hardware. It might be easier to put the thing in a fancy wooden case of some sort to hide the base.

          If you do it right, you can make it look like a jewelery box, with, um, a screen sticking out of the back. Ok, the idea needs work.


          That's exactly how I did it. I bought a wooden shadow box and finished it. I still had to heavily modify the laptop to get the screen to flip all the way around, and also fit securely in the box. I also had to write a number of scripts to support
      • I did this, actually. I completely disassembled the laptop and installed the relevant parts in a $10 frame from Wal-Mart, plus a few extra pieces of wood. And it only took me two evenings of work.

        I installed Linux but NOT X...I used a console installation and zgv which has a slideshow mode. I installed Apache and Gallery to manage the photos in an easy way. The only scripting I needed to do was to start zgv with the correct parameters on bootup. I could have used a wireless PC card, but my desktop applicati
        • by Scutter ( 18425 )
          That looks pretty good. I did something similar with the OS, but I wanted it to do some other stuff. For example, it can read images from either a network share or from a local drive, it'll automatically sync itself to another network share. This way, I can just drop pictures in a directory on my network and not have to worry about updating the frame. If the frame goes outside of wireless range, it'll have its own local copy of whatever I put in the sync directory.

          I also wanted it to auto-orient and res
  • Battery life (Score:5, Interesting)

    by dgatwood ( 11270 ) on Thursday May 24, 2007 @08:59PM (#19263327) Homepage Journal

    The biggest problem for these things---and particularly for digital picture frames with wireless networking---is battery life. Unless you're planning to hook up a power cord wherever you hang it, that's going to be a real pain; backlights take a lot of power. Also, it will never be like looking at a photo because it is a rear-lit display.

    What you really want is electronic paper. The technology is in its infancy (despite being decades in the making), but it has real potential to be used for all sorts of things---digital music stands, digital picture frames, digital billboards on the highway without obnoxious lights, etc. Its biggest advantage is that it takes no power except when you are changing it, making it absolutely ideal for what you're doing. Combine that with power-over-ethernet (which would be plausible for such a low power device), and you have a really cool toy. :-)

    • Re:Battery life (Score:4, Insightful)

      by wall0159 ( 881759 ) on Thursday May 24, 2007 @10:31PM (#19264281)

      Apart from battery life (or power supply) problems, they
      1. typically have crappy, small, low-resolution screens with a poor viewing angle, and
      2. are expensive.

      What's the attraction? Printing photos is cheap, repeatable, and they look a million times better (larger, crisper, 180 deg viewing abgle, etc). Plus you're not paying for electricity to run them. I just can't understand who'd want those photo frames - if you want a slideshow, put one on the TV.. or laptop.. (and turn it off when you don't want it).

      Seems like an expensive "solution" in search of a problem.
    • Combine that with power-over-ethernet (which would be plausible for such a low power device), and you have a really cool toy. :-)

      Yes, but do you *honestly* think that your mother would want to deal with buying a PoE injector (which waste power) and installing a wired network hookup? Such a device would fit in well with the other devices at the Computer History Museum, in the "Cool Devices Built Without Real Users In Mind" exhibit.
      • by dgatwood ( 11270 )

        Bear in mind that the person buying it would probably not be the mother. The point was to have something where the kid could update the contents remotely, which requires constant network access and constant power. The suggestion of PoE was because it's an easy way to provide both without having to do too much additional wiring.

        • by dgatwood ( 11270 )

          I use the term kid loosely, in that the poster is the child of the mother. I have no idea how old the original poster was. Just to clarify my clarification.

  • 1) Get an old PC that's really nice and compact. Something you can run Linux on. Install it up, making sure you get something like chbg on it. Make sure mom has a network connection in her home if you want to remotely access it. Do wifi or do an ethernet connection. Creatively hide this. Tell her to never, EVER turn it off - she doesn't need to and it burns a minimal amount of power anyway.

    (Note, if she has no broadband connection and doesn't have the means to get it, you can set the box up with wifi

  • by caitsith01 ( 606117 ) on Thursday May 24, 2007 @10:58PM (#19264503) Journal

    My mom, bless her soul, doesn't quite get the concept of digital photography. She always complains that we never print them out for her, and gets completely flustered at the idea of looking at them on a computer.

    I must say, I take exception to this opening. The 'concept' of digital photography is hardly that one must no longer print pictures. In fact, digital prints are fantastic quality and a very satisfying (and, relatively speaking, permanent) way to keep your pictures.

    I would say that digital photography's key feature is the replacement of film with a reusable medium, and the corresponding ability to easily transfer and manipulate the pictures stored on that medium. Nothing in that description means that those pictures should not be printed.

    Am I alone in finding electronic storage and display of pictures spectacularly unsatisfying? Not only do pictures look worse on a screen to my eye, the non-physical nature of the pictures also diminishes their permanence and impact. Furthermore, storing images on a computer encourages the habit of retaining hundreds or thousands of poor photographs (as there is effectively no cost for doing so) and thereby reduces the amount of time spent considering each photograph in detail and deciding which ones are worth looking at and enjoying.
    • Nothing in that description means that those pictures should not be printed.

      TFA: "She always complains that we never print them out for her"

      I guess you could say he answered his own question in the second line of the article.

    • Vote 1 caitsith01 (606117) for President!

      I have been trying to tell people that the medium of transfer is completely different to the medium of displak, and the "digital photography" does not imply that *both* need to change. This seems to be falling on deaf ears, unfortunately.
    • Furthermore, storing images on a computer encourages the habit of retaining hundreds or thousands of poor photographs (as there is effectively no cost for doing so) and thereby reduces the amount of time spent considering each photograph in detail and deciding which ones are worth looking at and enjoying.

      You mean "worth forcing our family and coworkers to pretend to enjoy".

      I take pictures as a sort of documentary of my life. I usually look at them when I upload them to the computer, remove the really
  • Just use the photo that came with the frame and SAY you're updating it. When she complains it's always the same photo, say it doesn't work because her multi-LAN CPAN modulator is de-multiplexed or some shit.
  • At a certain major retailer, our dept also does the camera sales and related acessories, we have 2 models of digital frames, but they both kind of suck, and its problems inherent to all of them.

    Both the problems that come to mind are the screen. The first problem is the aspect ratio and is a major problem for every LCD on the market. Since there are only a handfull of manufacturers of LCDs, all brands will use the same parts, because of this 90% of LCD TVs on the market are 16:10 aspect ratio at a weird

  • It's within the realm of possibility to build one from scratch. Just couple a microcontroller with an LCD display, put a big Li-Ion battery in to power it, and bolt on a USB port. Of course, it would be a real PITA to actually make it work. There are places to order 6" 640 X 480 LCDs from, and a PIC microcontroller should have enough power to display simple JPGs and such. Writing the code would be a pretty hideous undertaking though. Maybe start an open source project for it?
  • Has anyone had any success running any of these things as monitors? It's bizzare that a 7 inch LCD monitor with VGA input costs more than a 19 inch one. There are situations where a 7 inch monitor would be very nice even if the refresh rate is less than 1 frame per second.
  • Get one with a card reader, put photos that you " think " she wants on it and give it to her.
    Then, sit down with your laptop with ALL of the photos you have ( well, not the porn etc. ) and have her choose what SHE wants.
    Explain about cropping, putting text on them, pretty frames etc. If she is willing to use a program to edit the photos herself, get her a basic computer and show her the BASICS. Otherwise YOU do the pretty bits, then GET THEM PRINTED.

    You are looking at the pictures as "pretty bits that remin
  • I foolishly purchased this for my mom because the Kodak sales rep said [before I purchased it] that yes, pictures could be sent directly from a Mac to the picture frame over a wireless network. When I actually get the device, it turns out that it only supports pulling pictures [so you have to use the crappy UI on the picture frame to find/select/copy pictures from a remote picture source] and the only remote picture sources it supports is Kodaks picture gallery web site and Windows Media Sharing protocol [
    • I swear, Apple should just make one of these devices and bitch-slap everyone else out of the market.

      Having got nowhere with a similar exercise myself these last few weeks since being intrigued by similar offerings at a recent photographic trade show, I made a similar suggestion while visiting a local Apple reseller. Now we've all forgotten the unfortunate HTML sidetrack that used that name, surely iFrame could be to iPhoto what iPod has become to iTunes.

      I know my mother's immediate reaction is that she woul

    • It's a shame. Kodak used to have a picture frame network. You could take your memory card out of your digital camera, insert it into your frame, and send pictures right off the card to other picture frames. Each frame used a dial-up modem connection and polled the Kodak server in the wee hours of the night. It was perfect for sending Grandma pictures of the grandkids. But the business model behind this network was a bit screwed up, and rather than fix it, Kodak killed it five years ago. There may still b
  • Over at the Daily WTF, they have an article titled The Complicator's Gloves [worsethanfailure.com]. Perhaps the submitter of this Slashdot article might want to give it a once over, and if the message still doesn't sink in PRINT THE F*CKING PICTURES OUT JUST LIKE YOUR MOTHER WANTS.

    • I totally agree with this. Your mom doesn't want to see the pictures on a digital frame any more than she want to view them on a computer. Teach her how to use one of those web sites that allows you to send in digital photos and they mail you prints. Target has a great one that allows you to pick up the prints in the store.
  • Check out iMate MomentoLive [momentolive.com]. It's not cheap, but pretty cool.
  • I've seen lots of these picture frames and they all seem to be either USB (yuck!) or SD card (slow as hell) based. Now to me, the ideal solution would be wireless.

    Streaming photos from your Gallery2 or Xvids/MP3s from your fileserver just sounds great. Sure you could have some permanent storage like USB-host (for reading USB keys) or built-in RAM for caching (or when the network is down).

    I'd love a hackable version, bung Linux on it: wget, NFS, jees even a MythTV frontend!

    Of course the easy route would be t
  • Well sure, My senior design project was to design and build a digital photo frame. It is in essense a mini-itx motherboard running Linux from Scratch and a GTK-based application that I wrote. Our device did not have a screen but plugged up to any computer monitor you wanted to buy, up to 1600x1200 resolution. I'm certain we could have plugged it into the network and transfered files that way. When we started our project 1 1/2 years ago, there was no competition. We couldn't even find anyone who wanted the
  • I just finished making one for my friend's mother. Snagged an OLD Hitachi tablet PC - 486/20MB/250MB PCMCIA HD - and installed a slimmed down freeBSD 4.11 on it. Stuck an old WN-B11/PCM wireless card in there and made a nice frame for it.(Actually, asked the neighbouring mall's photo framing shop to make me a NICE frame.)
    I'm SSHed in right now - she is in Nekarsulm, Germany, I am in Vancouver, B.C. - and am installing samba, so I can mount a directory full of pictures from her Buffalo Linkstation NAS. She i
  • The one and only logical piece of hardware I can think of for your purpose is an i-Opener. It's a slow PC with little RAM (but it is expandable!) and with 16MB of flash disk which appears as ATA. Thus it's easy to deal with. There's an IDE header in there, but you need to build a special cable to use it or something. There's information about it all over the web. And here is a page about a guy who did it [goliathindustries.com], here is an earlier slashdot story about doing it with linux [slashdot.org] (which includes some i-Opener info) and so

  • ...in the May and June issues, the Nisley's Notebook column details the author's adventures constructing a DPF out of a Thinkpad 560Z using entirely free, open-source stuff and minimally-priced accessories.
  • My brother for Christmas made a photo book with printed photos for my mom, she was delighted.
    Sure, it takes some efforts to select the photos but it's really worth it.

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