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System Admin's Unit of Production?

Posted by kdawson on Sat Aug 25, 2007 03:30 PM
from the counting-lines-of-shell-script dept.
RailGunSally writes "I am a (strictly technical) member of a large *nix systems admin team at a Fortune 150. Our new IT Management Overlord is a hardcore bean-counter from hell. We in the trenches have been tasked with providing 'metrics' on absolutely everything from system utilization to paper clip recycling. Of course, measuring productivity is right up there at the top of the list. We're stumped as to a definition of the basic unit of productivity for a *nix admin. There is a school of thought in our group that holds that if the PHBs are simple enough to want to operate purely from pie charts and spreadsheets, then we should just graph some output from /dev/random and have done with it. I personally love the idea, but I feel the need for due diligence, so I put the question to the Slashdot community: How does one reasonably quantify admin productivity?"

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  • Number of Cases (Score:5, Funny)

    by Esion Modnar (632431) on Saturday August 25, @03:33PM (#20356015)
    of Jolt Cola consumed.
  • Measuring productivity? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by haluness (219661) on Saturday August 25, @03:34PM (#20356023)
    How many tickets answered per day? Completed per day? /dev/random is probably the most elegant though
    • Re:Measuring productivity? (Score:5, Insightful)

      Trouble tickets are great, but I would recommend that you find ways to quantify all of the following in some way or the other -
      1. Stability calculated using the uptime of your systems. You could include such things as updates, patches etc to this to demonstrate that stability is not set in stone.
      2. Reliability is similar to stability, but how many production/pilot/training and other systems rely on you? How often and how well do you serve them?
      3. Response time is how fast you react to problems and how often do problems come up? (trouble tickets are a good way to quantify the latter)
      4. Network load is a good way to demonstrate how well your network is performing, if you are a *nix sysadmin handling networks.
      5. Security is how much time and effort do you spend on keeping your systems secure, both internally and externally?
      6. Efficiency would be a combination of all of the above and a way of measuring how well you achieved those things and how much time, resources and effort was expended to achieve those things.


        I am sure that others could find much better ways of quantifying performance, but this is something that jumped out at me. I was part of a consulting team that was asked to improve performance in a company several years back, and they came up with something similar.
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      • Re:Measuring productivity? by DudeTheMath (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:18PM
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      • Measure value, not productivity by cjonslashdot (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:21PM
      • The hammer priciple. (Score:5, Interesting)

        by infonography (566403) on Saturday August 25, @04:59PM (#20356823)
        (http://www.zines.com/)
        I remember an old joke about a furnace repairman coming to a home and after looking at the furnace for about a minute and a half, listening to the rumbles and gurgles. He takes his hammer out and at once precise place he hits the furnace. The furnace starts up and runs fine as if it was brand new.

        The bill was $200.

        The homeowner asks why so much when all he did was hit it once with a hammer?

        The repairman takes back the bill, and itemizes the bill still totaling $200.

                              Cost of hammering, $1
                              Knowing where to Hammer $199

        Any idiot can muck about on a UNIX box, I worked at one Fortune 500 company where everybody in the dept had Double E's. Still their main Solaris server crashed ever 3-5 hours daily and had been for months.

        Took me a week to unscrew it and put everything back in order.

        Me, I am high school dropout with no GED and some non-technical college courses. Still most of what I was doing was letting them do their work and not have to bother about broken systems. My value was on par with theirs as it was time they didn't lose on their work.

        Nevertheless beancounters are stupid (also Beancounters are not accountants), they know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. If you really want to send their head swirling take the entire labor budget for each dept expressed as an hourly unit. Every time you work for a dept internally charge the company that much for each hour you work on a project or ticket for them or better still your company and tell them thats how much it costs. Without Sysadmins nobody does anything but fight technical fires and gets no work done.

        Likely this joker found out that Auto Mechanics have a book to calculate how much to charge for each service and repair with details on how long each job should take. This doesn't work because Sysadmins are closer to being chefs or doctors then low end auto mechanics.

        Even so, people who own Jaguars, Ferrari, and Maserati don't take them to Jiffy Lube.

        If they complain tell them the story about about that hammer. (or better yet use on on them)
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        • Re:The hammer priciple. (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Firethorn (177587) on Saturday August 25, @06:12PM (#20357333)
          (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Friday September 02 2005, @01:43AM)
          To approach it from an entirely different angle, much of an system administrator's job(whether Unix or not) is to avoid things, much like a security guard.

          Just for one example: How do you measure avoided data leaks that would of cost millions?
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        • Re:The hammer priciple. (Score:5, Funny)

          by D-Cypell (446534) * on Saturday August 25, @06:20PM (#20357369)
          I worked at one Fortune 500 company where everybody in the dept had Double E's.

          Excellent. Tell me, how is Mr Hefner?
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        • Re:The hammer priciple. (Score:5, Insightful)

          by budgenator (254554) on Saturday August 25, @06:44PM (#20357515)
          (Last Journal: Sunday January 28 2007, @05:20PM)
          I knew a guy who was a millright for GM at Hydromatic, he was paid $45.00 an hour and played Euchre all day, management was fine with this because when he went to work, the plant lost $45,000.00 an hour. When a sysadmin is working, really working at his/her real job, the shit done hit the fan.
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          • The sysadmin's job ... (Score:5, Insightful)

            by StupidKatz (467476) on Saturday August 25, @08:17PM (#20357993)
            ... in my opinion, is to be as bored as possible. Everything which is done on a regular basis should be as automated as possible, and as much effort and resources thrown at avoiding potential problems as the finances and customers will allow (data backups, spare or redundant equipment, etc.).

            Much of a "good" sysadmin's time should be spent doing regular, but occasional spot checks on the automation (which can also be greatly automated) to ensure everything is running as smoothly as possible.

            Obviously, not all problems can be avoided, especially hardware failures, but if everything else is in place, even recovering a dead, but critical server can be fairly painless.
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            • Re:The sysadmin's job ... (Score:5, Interesting)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25, @11:10PM (#20358971)
              I have never been a SysAdmin but I have done IMR. In IMR if you are really doing your job, then no one knows your there but the bean counters, unless of course someone wants to add something new to the mix or operator error. Of course it was more obvious when you regularly had to change the machine setups to run different products. Pretty much everywhere I did that there was a ticket system to make the bean counters happy and the better you did your job the more creative you had to be to account for your time. If you didn't make the bean counters happy they would start working to get your job eliminated and if you worked directly for production in this respect the departmental manager might try making you do production work when not doing maintenance or repairs.

              Fortunately the at the place I worked the longest in that field the plant manager was a former IMR technician and he would give a dressing down to any bean counter or ignorant lower management who messed with us, as he put it "this plant is running very smoothly because of this IMR crew and they all know that the smoother things are running the more time they have to relax and plan future required interventions to keep themselves relaxed with free time to think." Course we were not always thinking of such things while relaxing and he knew that, but he knew as long as we got rewarded with relaxing time at work, the smoother we would keep things running to preserve the relaxed atmosphere.

              Personally, I think the SysAdmin who contributed the question here should check the obviously clueless "new IT Management Overlord"'s computer to make sure they not violating copyright via downloading recordings; make sure they are no trojan infesting the system; and make sure they are not downloading large amounts of porn, it would be a shame if this "bean counter" had to account for anything like that.
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              • Re:The sysadmin's job ... (Score:4, Funny)

                by infonography (566403) on Sunday August 26, @01:35AM (#20359869)
                (http://www.zines.com/)
                Hmm, thats true lets see now.

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                su username

                clickityclickityclickityclickityclickityclickitycl ickityclickity

                not there.... hmmm

                clickityclickityclickityclickityclickityclickitycl ickityclickityclickityclickityclickityclickityclic kityclickityclickityclickityclickityclickityclicki tyclickityclickityclickity

                launch gimp, batch job import, crop

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                copy rename alter datestamp chown

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                hmmm ok found it tsk tsk tsk, and he seems like such a nice young man. .......

                Cows???? oh good lord

                clickityclickityclickityclickityclickityclickitycl ickityclickityclickityclickity

                mail "my vacation photos" all

                / tip of the hat to the BOFH
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            • Re:The sysadmin's job ... by dbIII (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @01:36AM
            • Re:The sysadmin's job ... by darkmeridian (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @01:24PM
        • Re:The hammer priciple. by natmakarvitch (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @06:58PM
        • Re:The hammer priciple. by servognome (Score:3) Saturday August 25, @07:30PM
        • Re:The hammer priciple. by jcgf (Score:3) Saturday August 25, @09:19PM
          • Re:The hammer priciple. by infonography (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @11:08PM
          • Re:The hammer priciple. (Score:5, Interesting)

            by TapeCutter (624760) on Sunday August 26, @12:27AM (#20359497)
            (Last Journal: Tuesday February 13 2007, @05:31PM)
            "God, slashdot is full of you guys and frankly I think you're all full of shit. No offense to you personally, I just hate seeing people kicking on college degrees like they don't mean anything."

            Ditto, only financial success or inexperience permits the arrogance of thinking EE == Computer Science == Software developer == SysAdmin == Help Desk slave. It's total bullshit to infer dropping out of HS won't make a "difference" and that financially it is a detrimental step for all but a tiny minority of naturally gifted (or extremely lucky) entrepenuers and assorted geniuses.

            Me, I'm a high school dropout who then went on to be a member of the "working poor" and/or "time poor" until I obtained a degree in my early 30's. I quit the factory, got a lisence and invested $1K in a brand new Acer XT with a "paper white" 16 colour CGA monitor to replace my $80 second-hand IIE at the start of my course. It was not a small investment for us, but freeing up the family TV was a diplomatic coup over the wife/kids and it was also the best finacial one I ever made.

            My last year at uni the computer directly earned me $9K writing small "search and sort" examples for a text book the dept. head was writing. Indirectly, I am now quite comfortable in my late 40's and have a decent chance of being very comfortable in my 60's. Barring a lotto win, my alternate future would probably have seen me as a factory foreman (I was already a leading hand -death by rotating shiftwork- shudderrr). And when the factory job "disappeared", as so many did in the last couple of decades, I would probably have spent my severence pay on a franchise gardener/handyman/taxi-truck "bussiness", OTOH: I would probably be 10-15Kg lighter and have an endless supply of home grown pot... :)

            Today I live by the beach with a 15min drive (or a broadband connection) to the office, I like to take pictures of storms on the bay but the trick is finding a profitable passion to pay for the time and material needed for your other passions (that may also one day be profitable). Sure doing a degree and finding out just how smart others before you have been can dull the "passion" as one by one you find your "original insights" are not original and/or not instghtfull. For me it didn't completely kill the passion but it did open up the enormity of what I don't know and how hard it can be to "find out". If the "passion" were to die completely I have made enough profit to walk away and do something else besides mowing lawns for the middle class simply because a little passion for one's job and a decent "fuck-you" fund equates to power when dealing with PHB's.

            If someone doesn't think a degree will help with any of that then to them it isn't going to. They are either already "happy" or belive like I once did that the only reason for "working" is a paypack.
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            • Eratta :( by TapeCutter (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @12:29AM
              • Re:Eratta :( by 1lus10n (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @03:00PM
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          • Re:The hammer priciple. by eclectus (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @09:24AM
          • Re:The hammer priciple. by retro128 (Score:3) Sunday August 26, @09:31AM
          • Re:The hammer priciple. by foniksonik (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @09:51AM
        • I like it - here's my parable by Weaselmancer (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @11:14PM
        • Re:The hammer priciple. (Score:4, Interesting)

          by Iron Condor (964856) on Sunday August 26, @12:58AM (#20359701)

          Please correct me where I have misread, but in all your verbosity you seem to have made two statements:

          - One cannot quantify the sysadmin job

          - You're better at it than some

          To my (non-MBA) eyes, these two appear in contradiction. If one cannot measure/quantify how well a sysadmin is doing his/her job, then one cannot claim that one is doing a better job than the other. Thus one might as well hire the cheapest guy. If, on the other hand it is supposed to be possible to say "you're doing a better job than joe" then there must be something measurable, observable, something that can be put into a number and that number differs for you and joe (in such a way as to make yours the better number).

          I admit I have no idea how to measure the quality of a sysadmin. If my stakeholders forced me to (I.e. my boss said "quantify what your IT dudes are doing") I would go to my sysadmins and say "please give me numbers that show how well you're doing". Because the alternative is pulling something out off my ass -- and neither my superiors nor the people who work for me would like that.

          [ Parent ]
        • Re:The hammer priciple. by Albion (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @02:58AM
        • Re:The hammer priciple. by schizoid4 (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @08:16PM
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      • Re:Measuring productivity? by XHIIHIIHX (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:59PM
      • Re:Measuring productivity? by swordfishBob (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @05:42PM
      • Re:Measuring productivity? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by dubl-u (51156) * <2523987012NO@SPAMpota.to> on Saturday August 25, @06:51PM (#20357579)
        That's a good list. I'd add a little more, though.

        Personally, I split sysadmin work up into two categories: doing something and making it so you don't have to do anything. The second is much more important, but much harder to quantify.

        For the first category, you can definitely count things for managers. E.g., X accounts created, Y support requests handled. Be very careful quantifying things like this, though, or you create perverse incentives. If I make a system that's hard to use, I can receive and satisfy a lot of support requests. Or if I concentrate power rather than distributing it, then I get to look busy and important.

        The other category is much trickier. Long ago I worked for a financial trading company. About 80% of the working day, the head clerk would just loiter on the trading floor, reading the paper and shooting the shit with clerks and traders. And that was exactly what his bosses wanted: they correctly saw that as a sign he kept things running smoothly. And then when problems popped up, he could give them his full attention while the rest of the operation kept running.

        So I'd add two items to your list: user satisfaction, measured through surveys, and crisis preparedness, measured by speed and quality of response during drills (and actual crises, of course, but you can't wait for those to find out how ready you are).
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      • Re:Measuring productivity? by iPaige (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @06:54PM
      • Re:Measuring productivity? by crackspackle (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @07:25PM
      • Re:Measuring productivity? by 1310nm (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @08:43PM
      • From a SA Who Became a Bean Counter (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 25, @09:41PM (#20358391)
        I am an SA who became a bean counter. One of my primary motivations was that I saw f*ck-ups getting rewarded with less work and raises while hard-working SAs suffered with more work and dead end jobs.

        I think management deserves to know what is good work and what isn't. If you leave it up to them, they are going to pick something like tickets resolved or customer satisfaction and you are going to see the a**-kissers move up while the hard-working straight-shooters get the shaft.

        I think the metrics described here are good ones, but I'd change #4 to the ratio of load to capacity -- which is a measure of efficiency and good planning. Overall, a good SA should be able to maximize delivery of services. I'd also change #5 to security risk measured as ELV (expected loss value). I know a lot of security professionals who hate this and think it is meaningless, but so far none has given me any better metric to show management that security risks are actually getting better managed over time.

        In short, think of what a good SA does for a company and propose metrics that reflect that. Do NOT leave it up to management like some have suggested. THey are asking for your opinion as an expert. Step up and show that you are the expert by giving them an expert answer. Show them that you know the difference between a good job and a bad job.
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      • Re:Measuring productivity? by harakh (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @11:09PM
      • Re:Measuring productivity? by vboulytchev (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @12:36AM
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      • It's not your productivity. . . by SgtSnorkel (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @06:42PM
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    • Re:Measuring productivity? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Duhavid (677874) on Saturday August 25, @03:59PM (#20356309)
      No. How many tickets were not opened in the first place because things
      just work.

      Yeah, I know.
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    • Re:Measuring productivity? by SCHecklerX (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:01PM
    • And the Corollary.. by gerf (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:09PM
    • Re:Measuring productivity? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:16PM
    • Re:Measuring productivity? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Citizen of Earth (569446) on Saturday August 25, @04:17PM (#20356491)
      Hours of productivity per day lost to productivity measuring?
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    • Productivity is a dirty word. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by beakerMeep (716990) on Saturday August 25, @04:19PM (#20356505)
      Simple answer is that you don't. Productivity in terms of IT and related fields has become a dirty little word but more than that it is a business term, not technical. If you aren't a director or higher in title, and your duties don't include justifying expenses and planning resources for solutions, then it isn't really your realm to measure something like productivity. If this guy has an MBA or similar qualifications, it is he who should know how to measure productivity. But alas the word productivity has become corrupted by half-assed business journalists trying to write articles about over all productivity and how your employees waste too much time on facebook. If this guy just wants a number and gives you no guidelines as to how to come up with the number, then my guess is that he just wants to kiss up to the CEO that "productivity" is up 40% or he wants a number to justify laying off people. Either way, if he cant tell you how he reached his number, I would suggest getting your resume ready.

      Also ideally, a CTO wouldn't be asking those in the trenches how to measure productivity, but rather how to improve it. As someone in the trenches, you probably know where the snags are in efficiency, or what software you would need to purchase to help smooth things along or even where people are over worked or over looked. This is the positive way to improve productivity. Basically he should be asking you what you need in order to get your job done, and he should get it for you (within reason of course)
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    • Firemen by goombah99 (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:27PM
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  • The only reason you need... by Ice Wewe (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @03:34PM
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  • Easy by Bloater (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:35PM
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  • Unit of production (Score:5, Insightful)

    by phoenix.bam! (642635) on Saturday August 25, @03:35PM (#20356037)
    The best sys admins are the ones you never notice. If the productive workers in a company never see or need to talk to a sys admin it's been a productive day for the admins.
  • Easy by metalhed77 (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:36PM
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  • Best non-/dev/random method: by mdenham (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @03:36PM
  • Well... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by djupedal (584558) on Saturday August 25, @03:36PM (#20356045)
    "How does one reasonably quantify admin productivity?""

    If no one in the building but HR and your line report need to know your name, you're doing your job...

    Other than that, it would be like a trash collector counting how many cans he emptied during the day or a wildfire firefighter how many burning bushes he chopped. If there weren't any fires or trash these people wouldn't be needed, would they?

    You can't quantify SA productivity.
    • they dont chop burning bushes by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @03:48PM
      • Re:they dont chop burning bushes (Score:4, Insightful)

        by irc.goatse.cx troll (593289) on Saturday August 25, @03:57PM (#20356299)
        (Last Journal: Saturday September 20 2003, @01:55PM)
        The problem is the numbers don't look good. To quantify what you're looking for you'd want "number of hours spent idle" i.e if a sysadmin did his job well and has everything running smoothly, how many hours does he have with nothing needing to be done?

        Once any manager or other authority type sees that number though rather than seeing you did a good job at keeping things reliable, they'll see you as lazy and assign work you shouldn't be doing (other peoples jobs).

        Really just about anything other than data entry is hard to quantify in the computer field. Someone suggested troubletickets.. but theres a huge difference between a ticket that requires you to restart apache, and one that requires you to strace half your system to debug, and raw ticket numbers don't tell you that.

        On the same note, lines of code mean nothing to actual programming, nor do "functions per day" or anything similar as again, you can't quantify the effort required in an easy line vs hard line. Is it a simple debug print or core logic you had to scratch out on a whiteboard to keep sane?

        [ Parent ]
    • Re:Well... (Score:4, Interesting)

      You can't quantify SA productivity.
      I respectfully disagree.

      You can evaluate how many users the SA's systems serve, how many systems the SA maintains, and how much data throughput all these users/systems generate.

      A confused Microsoft-SA running in circles around an Exchange server all day in order to serve 200 users is not "efficient" compared to a Linux-SA running an MTA which services 25.000 users (with better response times).

      On the other hand, a non-skilled Linux-SA who is fiddling with a SAMBA server in order to maintain 200 users with Windows clients is not very "efficient" compared to a skilled Microsoft-SA with a well configured AD.

      Off course you can measure SA efficiency. And there is nothing bad about it. In most cases it is even a benefit for the *nix admins.

      :-)

      - Jesper
      [ Parent ]
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    • Re:Well... by Annatar2 (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @05:59PM
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  • impossible? by ragahast (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:36PM
  • Time to find another job (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ZWithaPGGB (608529) on Saturday August 25, @03:36PM (#20356055)
    Since the real proof of actual productivity for network admins is negative: nothing goes wrong (no trouble tickets). Also, the PHB will get their wish: No one to pay is infinite productivity (measured as output per $ spent).
  • Unit of productivity (Score:5, Informative)

    by orionpi (318587) on Saturday August 25, @03:37PM (#20356059)
    Unit of Productivity = 1 / (hours of down time)

    They are paying you to keep bad things from happening.
  • hmmm by nomadic (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:37PM
    • Re:hmmm by Bender0x7D1 (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:52PM
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  • By doing quantifiable stuff by DingerX (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:37PM
  • Depends on your bean counters objectives.... by 3seas (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:37PM
  • One word by anom (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @03:38PM
  • Easy -- send out resumes by localroger (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:39PM
  • I suspect the closest model... by cmowire (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:39PM
  • uptime by immerrath (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @03:40PM
  • Slack by Saxerman (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:41PM
  • Units (Score:5, Funny)

    by ettlz (639203) on Saturday August 25, @03:41PM (#20356117)
    (http://ettlz.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Sunday February 12 2006, @06:53PM)

    How does one reasonably quantify admin productivity?
    In admons.
    • Re:Units by BriggsBU (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @07:13PM
  • Uptime. by B5_geek (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:42PM
  • That is arse backwards (Score:5, Insightful)

    You aren't building automobiles or painting teapots. You are a support function and not a line function.

    You should have business plan objectives. These things are usually annual; there can be longer strategic objectives. If the person who set these things did it right, they should be measurable.

    What I'm trying to say is, if you're banging your head against the wall trying to figure out how your performance should be measured, your higher up didn't set your objectives correctly.

    This doesn't apply anywhere and everywhere. When the organization is in the business of IT itself, you might be measured differently since you'd then be contributing directly to the organization's core business. But from the description provided, it sounds like you're not.

    • Re:That is arse backwards (Score:5, Insightful)

      by adrianmonk (890071) on Saturday August 25, @04:13PM (#20356455)

      You aren't building automobiles or painting teapots. You are a support function and not a line function.

      That is the best answer I've seen so far in this discussion. It mostly clearly illustrates that the question is framed wrong.

      There is nothing wrong with wanting to monitor and even quantify the value that an employee brings to the organization, but contrasting support function vs. line function perfectly illustrates the key point here: production is not the only kind of value that an employee can add to an organization.

      I wonder if a way of communicating this might be to make an analogy to something a financial person can relate to. You can use money to make several different types of purchases: you can buy durable goods, you can buy consumables, and you can buy more abstract things like insurance or legal advice. Don't take the analogy too literally, but system administration is like insurance or legal advice in that the value you provide is stuff like protection, security, planning, design, and order.

      I think if this were me, I would start by providing an outline of the responsibilities of the system administrator and the value that a system admin provides to the organization. This does include certain deliverables (like physical installation of hardware in machine rooms, installation of software, working and configured systems, documentation, answers to technical questions, training presentations, and code for scripts written to automate tasks), but it also includes a lot of work that doesn't have a deliverable (like diagnosing a problem and tracking down a patch from a vendor, or even convincing a vendor to supply a patch). It might be helpful to break the job down into types and subtypes of work being done and very rough estimates of the proportion of time being spent at each.

      So maybe the best plan is to educate the higher-ups about what the job really entails. It's quite possible they don't understand much about it, and some increased visibility into what is really going on could help with their understanding and thus their comfort level with paying the salaries of the people who do it.

      Also, there are deliverables that can be quantified. Creating user accounts, for example, has to be done repeatedly, and it takes about the same amount of time every time it happens. Auto mechanics deal with a similar situation and the industry has developed a list of tasks (such as replacing a fuel pump or brake pads) and standard times required to accomplish them. The computer world changes so quickly it might be hard to accomplish that, especially without industry support, but it seems possible to quantify some of what a system administrator does, because some of it is standard stuff.

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    • Re:That is arse backwards by stanleypane (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @07:31PM
    • Re:That is arse backwards by TheMCP (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @12:13AM
    • Re:That is arse backwards by edunbar93 (Score:2) Monday August 27, @02:45AM
  • This is easy by iamdrscience (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:44PM
  • System performance is easy enough... by Glowing Fish (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:44PM
  • Indexes for users and servers maintained by SplatMan_DK (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:45PM
  • Wipro... by cyberbob2010 (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @03:46PM
  • Push the question back by Flying pig (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:48PM
  • Guessing what managment wants to know is harder by russg (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:49PM
  • good productivity == no work by p0 (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @03:50PM
  • Wasted Time by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @03:52PM
  • The number of critical problems... by s1234d (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @03:52PM
  • Fun with labor models by MonkeyBot (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:53PM
  • Here's how. by bmo (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:53PM
  • Time tracking and resource utilization by www.2cups.com (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @03:53PM
  • Remember to make suggestions for optimization by SplatMan_DK (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @03:53PM
  • Simple question... simple answer (Score:4, Insightful)

    by RazorJ_2000 (164431) on Saturday August 25, @03:55PM (#20356281)
    What you need to do is contact some other F150 companies and ask their senior IT admins/CTOs how they measure productivity. I work for a major investment firm and we have metrics for everything we do (even though we're private) because of two primary reasons:
    1. its how you improve, and
    2. its what our competitors do too.

    Its that simple.

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  • Down time & turn around time by Just Jeff (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @03:56PM
  • by fishtop records (910593) on Saturday August 25, @03:56PM (#20356291)
    Assume for a second you had a perfect server farm. Its always up, backups are made, users are added and removed, etc. While we are at it, assume you have a staff of say two admins per shift, 24x7. That's at least 8 admins, probably more to cover holidays, vacation, etc. In this case, their productivity is zero, they have nothing to do. In reality, they are working their tails off, and deserve a nice bonus. So tell the PHB that productivity is not important, its problems. Its uptime, transactions delivered, average delay on transactions, etc. Get the Users to define what the 'requirements' are, and have the sysadmins deliver it. That is the measure of what is important.
  • Metrics (Score:4, Informative)

    by Codifex Maximus (639) on Saturday August 25, @03:57PM (#20356295)
    (http://slashdot.org/)
    RailGunSally wrote:
    >We in the trenches have been tasked with providing 'metrics' on absolutely everything from system utilization to paper clip recycling.

    This pretty much says it all; your manager wants you to do HIS job. Shouldn't he develop his own metrics? He can ask you for ideas but he should do the work himself. As for metrics, I'd suggest downtime percentages for each machine. If the services are up and running and the machines are online providing service then that should be metrics enough.
  • You're only as good as... by iminplaya (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:01PM
  • Uptime by GuyverDH (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:02PM
  • Measuring productivity? by Kennon (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:03PM
  • You Cant by unity100 (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:03PM
  • Sysadmin Metrics by dghcasp (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:04PM
  • simple math by wcb4 (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:04PM
  • Different measures by Eponymous Bastard (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:06PM
  • Graph employee turnover tasks by sprior (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:07PM
  • Learn to Love the Bomb. by BlueBoxSW.com (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:08PM
  • SysAdmin Unit of Measure by zenofjazz (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:10PM
  • Ticket System by hackus (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:10PM
  • I say screw with their minds .... by taniwha (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:11PM
  • Leave by theunixman (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:13PM
  • Approximate Formulas by Killer Eye (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:15PM
  • I have a formula (Score:4, Interesting)

    by KermodeBear (738243) on Saturday August 25, @04:16PM (#20356473)
    (http://www.kermodebear.org/)
    Hours Worked Fixing Problems divided by Hours Worked Doing Routine Work

    The lower the number, the more efficient the sys admin is. A good sys admin doesn't have to do anything, because everything is already set up and working. If the admin is constantly fixing servers, bringing them up, restoring data from backups, etc., etc., etc., then he isn't doing his job. If the majority of his day is spent sleeping in his chair and responding to the occasional email and things are running smoothly, then you can't ask for anything more.
  • The by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:16PM
  • Uptime by jimicus (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:16PM
  • Business critical systems/services vs. $ spent by SplatMan_DK (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:16PM
  • I understand costs must be calculated by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:18PM
  • Lemme guess - trick question ? by ozzee (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:19PM
  • We have a term for that by Auger Duval (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:21PM
  • Metrics by Bazman (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:22PM
  • Sysadmin metric is: failure by Spazmania (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:23PM
  • Mean time between failures by Ceriel Nosforit (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:24PM
  • Sounds simple to me (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mrami (664567) on Saturday August 25, @04:24PM (#20356547)
    (http://www.mrami.com/)
    1) Ask him what he wants to hear
    2) Tell him what he wants to hear.

    If you can't reasonably tell him what he wants to hear, tell him how much it will cost to produce what he wants to hear.

    This is not a technical consideration. This is a political consideration. He already has an idea of how to cover his ass. Give him the asbestos he wants.
  • This is not your responsibility (Score:4, Interesting)

    by LargeWu (766266) on Saturday August 25, @04:26PM (#20356565)
    ...no matter what your boss says. Just don't do it. It is management's responsibility to come up with metrics. If they can't do that, they're not qualified to hold their position, and frankly, I would tell them to their face. It might get you fired. But I've taken the "this is not my responsibility" tack before with some success. The reason this stuff happens is because workers allow it to happen, and if you don't stand your ground once in a while they will just keep shoving this type of crap at you.
  • Hours of Uptime? by wzinc (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:31PM
  • The unit is dollars by niceone (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:33PM
  • Insurance by bidule (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:34PM
  • The following article nails it by bgspence (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:36PM
  • Negative metrics by omnirealm (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:39PM
  • Take the easy route by nurb432 (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:42PM
  • Get Lean. by turgid (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:42PM
  • As a 'Nix shop - relate to similar M$ shop by rcpitt (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:48PM
  • Seriously, here is a real solution. by gru3hunt3r (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:49PM
  • Go for tangible / provable quantities by ivoras (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:49PM
  • MTTR/MTBF? by MikeLip (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @04:52PM
  • Average response time by erroneus (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:55PM
  • Two Approaches: Stewardship / Work Units by crucini (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:57PM
  • Measure QUALYs, like doctors do by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @05:00PM
  • Service Level Ageement... not productivity. by binaryspiral (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @05:01PM
  • How does one quantify bean-counter productivity? by John Hasler (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @05:02PM
  • whatever you choose will be wrong by petes_PoV (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @05:08PM
  • Several Pie charts, graphs, and lots of bullshit. by WK2 (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @05:15PM
  • You're screwed. Ask him to metric himself. by ChaosDiscord (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @05:27PM
  • Not too hard... by cfulmer (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @05:35PM
  • Uptime and hours spent by dindi (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @05:38PM
  • bean counter == good (in some ways) by timmarhy (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @05:39PM
  • Just Do It by mjr1007 (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @05:40PM
  • Simple math by sjames (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @05:41PM
  • In Uptime and data integrity... by msimm (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @05:56PM
  • Some good suggestions! What of friction? by cdn-programmer (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @06:01PM
  • Attempting a serious answer by Speed Pour (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @06:02PM
  • Check out Visible Ops for tips by bug (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @06:13PM
  • What? by Epsillon (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @06:13PM
  • The Benchmark Problem. by Kaenneth (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @06:14PM
  • Simple by Tom (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @06:18PM
  • That's straightforward by Yvanhoe (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @06:18PM
  • Reaction/Resolution Times by Joebert (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @06:27PM
  • Bean counter: ROI and/or TCO by PatPending (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @06:38PM
  • Janitors by zoftie (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @06:39PM
  • You can't fix stupid by zuesse (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @06:48PM
  • Duh, uptime of course! by dysfunct (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @06:56PM
  • I know by The_Dougster (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @07:16PM
  • Turn It Around To HR by DynaSoar (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @07:17PM
  • measurement difficulty, job complexity by hadleyburg (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @07:23PM
  • Some advise from a manager at another fortune 150 by uid-z3r0 (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @07:29PM
  • Fun statistics! by JAlexoi (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @07:36PM
  • tickets by Art Deco (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @07:40PM
  • Bean counter's jobs? by tchdab1 (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @07:57PM
  • The Dark Side of Defining Metrics by Mandatory Default (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @08:05PM
  • the classic unit of measurement... by Tumbleweed (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @08:13PM
  • Inverse Ratio of System Reliability by Shads (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @08:20PM
  • Same crap in our labs by Kludge (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @08:37PM
  • There's your problem by macdaddy (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @08:38PM
  • There is no unit of production by brundle (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @08:43PM
  • Take a vacation by iamthetru7h (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @08:48PM
  • Configuration management metrics by cluening (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @08:54PM
  • Find a new job by wjeff (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @08:55PM
  • Welcome to Hell by mediis (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @08:59PM
  • missing tag by damn_registrars (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @09:03PM
  • calories burned vs. services uptime by fyoder (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @09:21PM
  • Best Metric.... by PPH (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @09:23PM
  • An admins job is... by The Famous Druid (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @09:27PM
  • BLiPS by taradfong (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @09:39PM
  • productivity = how long without downTime by johnrpenner (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @09:48PM
  • Layoffs will follow shortly by Whuffo (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @10:18PM
  • A sysadmin's job by Kelz (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @10:35PM
  • re: System Admin's Unit of Production? by rge270 (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @10:58PM
  • by crmartin (98227) on Saturday August 25, @11:07PM (#20358947)
    ... because a system administrator isn't producing anything, any more than a safety engineer is. They're there to preserve certain non-functional properties of the system. The appropriate measure is how much of the time the system meets or exceeds the service level agreed to, and what the cost is in staff hours to do that.

    Trying to turn it into a "productivity" measure will have the inevitable effect of maximizing whatever is being measured, whether it's LOC of scripts, service tickets closed per hour, or kumquats per fortnight.
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  • Unit of Pain (Scale of 1 - 10) by Clippership (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @11:11PM
  • There's no such thing as productivity for admins by mstrebe (Score:1) Saturday August 25, @11:12PM
  • Count the days by sohp (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @11:22PM
  • Its control, not measurement, that you really need by strangedays (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @11:25PM
  • Been There - Done That by ryanisflyboy (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @11:53PM
  • Metrics by YetAnotherBob (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @12:00AM
  • I've thought about this one a lot. by DragonTHC (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @12:10AM
  • System uptime by wurp (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @12:11AM
  • Uptime and ? by WhiteHorse-The Origi (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @12:47AM
  • log review frequency & level of detail by rye (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @12:49AM
  • You get what you measure by jsiren (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @01:13AM
  • Measuring productivity by TheHaven (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @01:50AM
  • I don't see how you choices differed by baggins2001 (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @02:10AM
  • Sysadmins job is to make things run smoothly... by smeckert (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @02:57AM
  • "Customer" satisfaction by qaqa (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @03:15AM
  • What do you support that the business understands? by martin_the_geek (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @03:18AM
  • Idle time by _Shad0w_ (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @03:23AM
    • Re:Idle time by DigitalSorceress (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @08:32AM
      • Re:Idle time by _Shad0w_ (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @09:02AM
  • Downtime by daveywest (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @03:48AM
  • by bokmann (323771) on Sunday August 26, @04:10AM (#20360625)
    (http://www.javaguy.org/)
    The metric should be 'number of times the sysadmin has to be consulted', and it should be driven as close to zero as possible.

    I might get moded 'funny', or 'flamebait', but I'm serious.

    Think about it. When is a sysadmin needed? When there is some kind of crisis. "I can't get to the internet", "I can't check m email", "My computer thinks I might have won a million dollars", "I lost that important project file". A good sysadmin will prevent these things from ever happening, and when they do happen will have them resolved quickly, without a lot of technobabble or attitude (like the SNL skit guy), and will fade into the woodwork. Ironically, the middle-of-the-road IT guys are often thought of as heroes by the staff they support. They might be thought of as the firefighters, but unfortunately, they are also often the pyromaniacs.

    Other useful metrics:

    If you don't already have a ticket support system, get one. It will generate useful metrics for you. Some useful things out of it would be:

    - The AGE of the OLDEST OPEN SUPPORT TICKET. Proves you aren't dilly-dallying

    - Number of Priority 1 Tickets opened per quarter (see above - should be as low as possible)

    - Everything you do, you should open a ticket for. Upgrading that linux box? Ticket it. Updating anti-virus definitions? ticket it. From this you will get:

    - Nunber of tickets open per day

    - Nunber of proactive vs. reactive tickets (tickets you opened vs. someone else opened. You should get credit for fixing things before they become an issue someone notices.

    And if the bean counter needs some big numbers to justify things, just count up stuff that the logs on public boxes find. Seriously - have you ever looked at the stuff from logwatch? Just yesterday I had 2163 unique failed attempts to log in as root, not to mention all of the other assorted hackery it catches. "Number of successfully defended intrusion attempts" is a metric that will scare a bean counter enough that he won't take the liability of getting rid of you.

  • due diligence by vux984 (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @04:21AM
  • Simple... by dexomn (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @04:49AM
  • Be "irreplaceable to the company" by cavac (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @05:28AM
  • measures by someone1234 (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @06:25AM
  • Service availability by jonadab (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @07:27AM
  • tickets & availability & vacation by p4ck37p1mp (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @08:30AM
  • Number of idiot... by Nefarious Wheel (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @08:37AM
  • Chances are VERY high... by jbarr (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @08:54AM
  • System administration needs negative metrics? by TheLoneGundam (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @10:05AM
  • Uptime, definitely! by wizman (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @10:20AM
  • He who works least works most efficiently by Tom DBA (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @11:50AM
  • Dealing with growth and change by dunshed (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @11:52AM
  • Admins are enablers by PotatoHead (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @11:53AM
  • Three steps, no profit by a9db0 (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @11:58AM
  • If you want to be productive by adrianbaugh (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @12:04PM
  • There's no such thing as by postmortem (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @12:26PM
  • Compare it to other similar jobs (Score:3, Informative)

    by koehn (575405) * on Sunday August 26, @01:10PM (#20363613)
    Part of the problem is that the sysadmin job is somewhat reactive (like the plumber who responds to problems), somewhat preventative (like the security guard keeping the bad guys out), and somewhat prescriptive (like the carpenter adding on another 20000 SF of building). Try to divide the general role into these different categories and come up with metrics for each. Coming up with a single metric will be nearly impossible because of the diversity of the responsibilities of the job.

    Find other jobs that have similar, "preventing the negative" jobs. How would you measure the security guard's efficacy?
  • Make a deal by bytesex (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @02:22PM
  • Applications! by netperformance (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @04:40PM
  • Beancaps by StikyPad (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @07:00PM
  • Not too hard by bitspotter (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @07:31PM
  • Dealing with bean counters by buss_error (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @08:24PM
  • Division of labor by NemoinSpace (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @08:40PM
  • Reverse the metric by mr_mischief (Score:2) Sunday August 26, @08:41PM
  • Admin Productivity by raininthebrain (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @09:01PM
  • actual vs. theoretical performance by schizoid4 (Score:1) Sunday August 26, @09:13PM
  • Simple, let them do it by Tablizer (Score:1) Monday August 27, @01:01AM
  • As I am old, experience tells me... by threaded (Score:2) Monday August 27, @01:15AM
  • The Unit of sysadmin productivity is... by jon287 (Score:1) Monday August 27, @03:11AM
  • Same way the business calculates loss by Avatar8 (Score:2) Monday August 27, @11:12AM
  • The real value of a sysadmin is what doesn't break by Larry_Dillon (Score:2) Monday August 27, @02:25PM
  • Quantifiable Productivity by sofakingon (Score:2) Tuesday August 28, @12:18AM
  • If you haven't figured out... by NateTech (Score:2) Tuesday August 28, @06:54PM
  • Re:Tickets by ageoffri (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @04:23PM
  • Re:Tickets by Antique Geekmeister (Score:2) Saturday August 25, @05:47PM
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