Linux Sound Support w/ the Toast'n Jam PC Card? 23
strredwolf asks: "I may have a challange for you. I'm looking for specifications on the New Media Toast'n Jam PCMCIA card, also known as a Noteworthy SCSI/Audio combo card. Yeah, I know the Adaptec 152x driver works on this -- but I want to get the audio working on it! Does anyone have one of these cards and have audio working on it via Linux? I'd love to program up a driver for them. I've already looked via Google for both, but aparently, New Media Corporation doesn't exist anymore. And I don't have any documentation on this card with the box (had to pull the drivers through a third party)." Yet another argument for a company at least releasing the specs for their hardware when they go out of business. Has anyone had any luck teasing out soundwaves from their tweeters using this PCMCIA card?
Re:They exist but changed names.. (Score:2, Flamebait)
Wow (Score:2)
I think that before the people who write drivers for linux, whoever they are, make on for your pcmcia sound card they should make one for my Sound Blaster Live!, a slightly more common piece of equipment.
I run Mandrake, and yes the soundcard works. I can listen to mp3s and the correct noises come out of my speakers. However, I have a Cambridge Soundworks speaker system 4 sattelites and a subwoofer. The bass is supposed to come out of the sub and the treble is supposed to come out of the sattelites. There are two wires coming out of the sound card that go to the sub, the wires and front and rear. The sattelites are all connected to the sub one wire each.
I do hear sound with the current emu10k1 driver, however it is total crap. NO sound comes out of the sub while in linux, none at all. And the sattelites all get the same signal. That same signal is the entire range of sound. So I have every frequency of sound coming out of each of 4 very small, never supposed to play bass, speakers. Let me tell you it sounds like open ass.
So maybe before they make your obscure sound card work, they should make it so that the common hardware works properly. Just a suggestion.
Re:Wow (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Wow (Score:4, Informative)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/emu10k1
Your stereo sound comes from your failure to install any of the supporting tools that you need to do full output. [Ie you are a dipshit.] It's kind of like installing windows 2000 onto the same card. It will work (stereo only) - but none of the fancy stuff until you install the creative software.
With the SB Live! 5.1 in linux you can:
- Access all of the inputs and outputs on the back of the card, on the internal headers, and on the livedrive, and even some extra audio channels accessible to you if you are handy with a soldering iron.
- Indepently route, fade, and mix said audio channels around however you want - CD analog internal header plays to rear, PCM plays to front, center, sub, etc. The windows driver does NOT allow you to get this much control of things. With this mixer, you can bypass an effects channel on one source and leave it active on another, etc. You can set up routes so that you can cue music on your headphones plugged into the livedrive while you play other music from the speakers.
- 5.1 analog output using the digital out as the center/sub analog (analogous to the windows drivers, but the application must support it - xine does)
- 4.1 output - upmixed from stereo PCM (note that you cambridge speakers will also do this from a regular stereo stream. When you hear sound from the sub/4 speakers in windows, this is what you are hearing. It's just stereo upmixed by the card. The cambridge speakers actually do a better job of this than the card anyway. I'd suggest you try setting your speakers to something like the movie setting and see how it works when you are just playing stereo.
- Raw digital passthrough of Dolby AC3 and DTS for decoding by your speakers. (Again the applicaton must support it - xine does)
- OpeaAL 3D positioning with 2, 2.1, 4, 4.1, 5.1 speaker setups (The game must support OpenAL - Admittedly, not a lot do, but such is life)
- Infrared support with the LiveDrive IR. The interface is funky (The messages come in as MIDI system messages on
- full support of external MIDI devices and fm synthesis. Admittedly absent in the OSS driver is the support for wavetable synthesis. This is provided by the ALSA driver if you need it
- direct access to the emu10k1 DSP and management of patches so you can write your own effects or control your sound in some really cool ways. (The tools contain the as10k1 assembler).. You could put a codec on the card, for instance -- make the emu10k1 itself encode/decode mp3, ac3, or something similar, write a crazy distortion filter, whatever. (The AC3 passthrough uses a custom patch to accomplish it) The possibilities here are really quite endless and something you will never be able to do with the windows driver.
Incedentally, the driver at http://sourceforge.net/projects/emu10k1 is really just a newer version of the driver in the kernel. The kernel driver (with the tools provided at the above mentioned site) can do all of the things listed above. The main reason to get the driver tarball or CVS version from the emu10k1 folks is if you need good audigy support.
Happy hacking, dumbass.
~GoRK
Re:Wow (Score:2)
Re:Wow (Score:1, Troll)
Re:Wow (Score:2)
Re:Wow (Score:1)
So you have a relatively standard piece of well supported hardware that you're getting less then optimal use from and you post a long whining rant about the lack of support you're getting. Then when someone points these facts out you say that 'It's not worth my time or effort to figure it out.'
Either you're new to trolling or you're one of those idiots that make people quit tech support positions...
Re:Wow (Score:2)
If you successfully installed the driver and tools, then you had to have opened the same readme file that tells you how to edit the configuration. It's the one that starts "Installation Instruction for emu-tools-0.9.4 " and then right after that there is a section titled "GETTING STARTED". Did you actually RUN the X mixer? Did you RUN the init script or set it to auto run in the modules.conf? Did you open up the setup window in xine and check the "Enable AC3 Passthrough" or "Enable 5 speaker output"?
Just a heads up... You will get a hell of a lot farther posting a polite question to the emu10k1 mailing list than just complaining on
~GoRK
PCMCIA Sound cards in Linux (Score:3, Informative)
I would suggest using a USB sound device of some sort if this is for a notebook computer. If that is not an option, then use a USB PCMCIA card and run the USB sound dongle off of that. This will be your best bet.
~GoRK
Re:PCMCIA Sound cards in Linux (Score:2)
Re:PCMCIA Sound cards in Linux (Score:2)
1. Put in DMA support.
2. Create a new DMA-less sound card which you just "shout" or "print" the sound to, a la Parallel port sound cards.
While slashdot is subbing for LHD... (Score:2)
Re:While slashdot is subbing for LHD... (Score:2)
Ah, the splendors of marketing-driven technology.
And no word on drivers for the beast, either. Last I heard, Creative Labs was still being tight-assed about specifications. (probably for similar reasons to that above.)
Re:While slashdot is subbing for LHD... (Score:2)
-Scott
Toast 'n Jam? (Score:2)