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Public vs. Private Sector? 353

yusing asks: "Public sector or private sector? Which would you rather work in? What are Slashdot reader experiences like? What are the differences in work environments? What are the frustrations of each? This person chose private sector after working in public. This article argues that the public sector should be expanded. There are definitely political considerations in this choice (bigger/smaller government for example) but I'd like help deciding which would be more appropriate for me. Where can I find quality reading to help me decide?"
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Public vs. Private Sector?

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  • Stability (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Yuan-Lung ( 582630 ) on Thursday September 05, 2002 @01:34PM (#4201006)
    Personally I chose working in the public sector. Basically for the stability. With a family to feed in an slow economy like this, working for the government doesn't seem such a bad idea.

    Besides, my health has already went all the way down hill after pulling the countless overtime in the private sector. I need to take time and recover quiet a bit, and the resonable working hour is just great for that.

  • Academia (Score:3, Interesting)

    by angst7 ( 62954 ) on Thursday September 05, 2002 @01:35PM (#4201016) Homepage
    I enjoyed working in Academia more than any other sector, though I'm not certain whether a BIG 10 university is considered Public or Private. (Since it draws a large amount of funds from the Government) Whatever it may be considered, it was terrific for me. The flexibility you have in when you do your reasearch and how you choose to conduct it is unparalleled.

    Just my .02
    Jedimom.com [jedimom.com], ph balanced, for women.
  • Personal Achievement (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Neil Watson ( 60859 ) on Thursday September 05, 2002 @01:36PM (#4201024) Homepage
    It's possible that you could get a great sense of accomplishment from working in the public sector. However, here in Canada, government services are heavily unionized. I fear that most attempts at accomplishing anything could be burried under government and union red tape.

  • Whoever's hiring (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Brento ( 26177 ) <brento.brentozar@com> on Thursday September 05, 2002 @01:38PM (#4201036) Homepage
    These days, the choice seems to come down to whoever's hiring.

    If you're the kind of person who really shines, who likes working hard and wants to impress your boss, stick with the private sector. If you just want to get by until you retire, and you'd rather do your more challenging work in your spare time, then work in the public sector.
  • by rowanxmas ( 569908 ) on Thursday September 05, 2002 @01:39PM (#4201046)
    It really depends on what kind of job you are looking for. I, as a researcher, am pretty much tied to public/non-profit, since I like the flexibility I get. If I went to a for-profit company I would not be able to direct my own research, and would pretty much be a monkey boy for my boss ( at least until I get my Ph.D. ). My roomate is thinking of switching out of a BIG computer company and going to a non-profit, so that his job is more interesting.
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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Thursday September 05, 2002 @01:40PM (#4201054)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • GOV'T CONTRACTOR!!! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mekkab ( 133181 ) on Thursday September 05, 2002 @01:45PM (#4201086) Homepage Journal
    I work with a major company who's prime source of contracts is with governments (US, UK,some china)and its the best/worst of all worlds.

    THE BAD: Since all government contracts start as bids, your company will invariably underbid. That means a death march. Tight schedules, reduced resources. Some marches are more livable than others. However, becuase the SW development field is so young, I think you are going to find death marches everywhere.

    Additionally, you are a servant to many masters. Those paying, those managing, and those who will eventually get your product. However I find politics to be quite fun, especially when you outperform (See above comment) and your adversaries "fall on their ass" (its an industry term...)

    THE GOOD: Everything you heard about public sector jobs, but with better salary. Whoo hooo!

  • by transient ( 232842 ) on Thursday September 05, 2002 @01:53PM (#4201141)

    The private sector is typically faster and more efficient than the public sector. Private companies need to be nimble in order to remain competitive in a changing marketplace, and of course they have to keep a close eye on the bottom line. Conversely, the public sector has a responsibility to make thoughtful, conscientious decisions through due process.

    As for pay, "everybody knows" that salaries are better in the private sector, but the difference is smaller towards the bottom of the org chart. Laborers, techs, and line managers don't make that much less in the public sector than their corporate counterparts. There is a huge disparity in executive salaries. It is fairly common for people to gain initial experience as civil servants, then make the jump to private organizations for the better pay later on.

    Some people simply feel better about working for a public organization. Many civil servants have a sense of duty to their community. This drive is probably responsible for the high rate of burnout among civil servants. The average turnover among public managers, for example, is 18 months.

    I enjoy the stability and rewarding nature of my position in a municipal government, and I don't plan on going back to the private sector any time soon.

    --

  • by snatchitup ( 466222 ) on Thursday September 05, 2002 @01:57PM (#4201167) Homepage Journal
    It's been a simple opinion for me.

    But, there's something else even more important that being what type of job you have. For a typical slashdotter, the most important thing is finding a job where Internet Access isn't monitored or restricted.

    The other thing is, the only one truly looking after you is yourself. With that said, I've basically advanced my career/skills through my spare time on the job. Find a job with plenty of spare time and be sure to take advantage of it. I had a three month non-busy spell a few years ago and studied my ass off in Java, got certified, within one year, was making $25k more and still making it.

    Govt. is under too much political scrutiny. Some locals find out we're paying public employees to browse the net, and it gets shut down for the workers. Shit man, browsing the Internet on the job should be a civil right!

    Some of my friends in govt. actually have to walk to a different floor of the building to send an email to the outside world. I aint kidding, this is a fairly high up job.

    Local munie? Well that's another one. I would never, never work for a local municipality. This is the absolute bottom of the food chain. I know this is an ugly steatement, but I've never seen a fatter bunch of duffers than when visiting my local county office to pay some tax, or fill out a form or whatnot. Not even the DMV is as bad.

    Teaching? All the teachers I have adult converations with seem to have no sense of what the real world is all about. Part of them regresses back into childhood (or to whomever they teach their subjects to).

    Private Sector is fractic by nature. It'll keep you from becoming obsolete. You may switch jobs, but you'll be a smarter/stronger/richer person of you can roll with punches.

    Work Hard Play Hard
  • Private, definitely (Score:4, Interesting)

    by hwestiii ( 11787 ) on Thursday September 05, 2002 @01:57PM (#4201170) Homepage
    I've worked in both and I'll take private.

    I spent 10 years in the public sector doing municipal engineering, and 6 years in the private sector doing various IT work.

    The public sector definitely has the appeal of stability, after all, the city/county/state/federal government isn't likely to pull up stakes and move to Mexico where the labor is cheaper, but with the stability comes stasis. There just isn't that much to be gained by taking risks in government.

    The private sector has greater risks, but as every economist knows, with risk comes reward. Of the three companies that I've worked for in the past 6 years, one has been acquired by a European conglomerate occassioning a major cultural shift, and subsequent loss of morale in the general employee population, one just folded without warning (a month after I left, luckily enough) and my current employer has been slashing the head count steadily since 6 months after I started.

    That has all been balanced by the fact that I've learned twice or three times as much in the past 6 years than I did in the previous 10. In addition, my first private employer picked up the tab for my Bachelor of Science, relieving me of the need to take out $15,000 in student loans, not to speak of the interest.

    There is a place for public employment, my father spent his entire adult life working for Uncle Sam, first in the Air Force, then in the FAA, and then in Customs, and is sitting on a pretty nice retirement packageme. I'm not sure I could do that though. I haven't worked anywhere that I wasn't ready to leave within five years simply because there was nothing left there to maintain my interest.
  • by pdqlamb ( 10952 ) on Thursday September 05, 2002 @02:00PM (#4201184)
    What too many Americans don't realize is exactly what is being pursued under the "small government" rubric. Are the number of civil servants going down or remaining flat? Yes. Is total government spending going down? No. Where's the difference?

    What's called "private sector" is all too often government contractors. We, your government contractors, aren't bound by all the government's rules, restrictions, or protections. We can be laid off or fired relatively easily. We can use private databases to watch you. You can't see us, because we're private. But we can contribute to PACs, to keep the money flowing to political campaigns. We call it "access" and as a result your elected officials pay more attention to our lobbyists than they do to you.

    As one of my previous bosses put it, "Our company has no problems that cannot be solved by more growth."
  • by Desco ( 46185 ) <.moc.oohay. .ta. .119ocsed.> on Thursday September 05, 2002 @02:05PM (#4201220)
    Much like the private sector, this'll all depend on where you work. I worked for the DOE at Argonne National Laboratories and had quite the opposite experience-- most of the guys that I primarily worked with were VERY intelligent people, and I had my own office. Now in the private sector I'm in a cubicle with multiple idiots. Here's my summary:

    Public:
    -Better job security, but not that great.
    -Medical benefits are just as good as privae.
    -Salary may not be great, but they'll find other ways to pay you-- conferences often take place in places like Hawaii, and they'll usually pay for spouses and children for more days than just the conference. Tax breaks too.
    -Getting funding for a project is about as easy and painless as a home root canal kit.
    -Bureaucracy, bureaucracy, bureaucracy!!! Mulitple layers of multiple bosses... All who can't help you, but they can tell you who can.
  • by Deagol ( 323173 ) on Thursday September 05, 2002 @02:26PM (#4201426) Homepage
    For single people (or D.I.N.K.s -- Double Income No Kids), get as risky as you want. As with stocks, prospecting, and starting your own business, there's no real wealth to be found without risks. I've got a wife and 2 kids, so I tend to be more cautious.

    I started my post-college career at a small private software firm as an admin/consultant. It was great for a while. I pissed off the CEO, though and got canned in '99 (the party line was for "insubordination"). The joys of being an "at will" employee.

    I've been working for a state university ever since. Initially, the pay was worse (by $8k/yr), however, the benefits were so much better that it more than made up for it: $75/mo for family medical/dental vs around $300; 14% of my gross given (not matched) into a retirement fund vs the pitiful maxed-out 1% 401K matching. My pay has since surpassed that of my former employer.

    My department (research computing) has weathered the recession well, whereas others on campus have lost their jobs or have been shuffled to other departments. We didn't get our annual cost-of-living raise this year, but I can't complain.

    Though the pay is comfortable (still not great) and the work reasonably stimulating, I don't forsee myself here for very long. In spite of the fact that I could very likely become the cranky suspenders-wearing "unix guy" from the classic Dilbert strip, a secure and well-paid fixture on campus, I will likely move on in a few years. I like variety, and I suspect I'll hop to a small ISP or local business.

    But the public sector has been good for me. There's no way I'd ever have admin'ed a 64-way Origin 2000 or other various other clusters or large servers at a mom-n-pop company. Big institutions allow one to get experience with big systems. I've found that experience with large systems scales down to small systems much easier than the opposite direction. So once I find another small company, I should have a lot of fun with it.

    My family lives modestly, so my current income (about $52k/yr) is equally modest and I don't need to pursue a 6-digit salary. And I'm not short-changing my life, either. I've got 20 acres of retirement land and we put good money away for kids college and nest egg. You just gotta know how to wisely manage money.

    Of course, other lifestyles will vary. :) That's just my (abridged) story. I'd really recommend that everyone try employment in each sector, just so you get a feel for both sides: the secure bloat of most government institutions or the dog-eat-dog world of private comapanies. Both are interesting in their own ways, and both have good and bad points.

  • by FeloniousPunk ( 591389 ) on Thursday September 05, 2002 @02:32PM (#4201488)
    In my years working for both the government and the private sector, my experience says mostly that there is little difference in work environment; the bosses all read the same stupid management fad literature and tend to act in the same, typical ways.
    That said, though it still surprises me to say it, of all my work experience, the US Army was the least screwed up of any organization I've worked for, public and private. When I was in, I always thought "man things are so screwed up here, I bet things run much more efficiently in the private sector."
    Was I ever wrong.
  • by Richard Steiner ( 1585 ) <rsteiner@visi.com> on Thursday September 05, 2002 @05:56PM (#4202945) Homepage Journal
    I've been looking since January, as have a number of my friends with similar experience, and I'd be happy with a Help Desk position right now...

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