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Donating Time To Goodwill Projects? 179

jukal asks: "I am in the process of writing a proposal for co-operation between Openchallenge and UNITeS (United Nations Information Technology Service) which is 'creating a global volunteer programme aimed at bridging the digital divide between industrialized and developing countries'. Currently & traditionally contributing as a volunteer means relocating yourself to the developing country to take part as a project developer/manager/specialist. My proposal to UNITeS is, in short, will be that people could participate in such software projects via Openchallenge - while staying in their home country, on their spare-time and while keeping their jobs. The local team in the developing country would, after defining and creating requirements specifications post sub-projects as tasks to Openchallenge. All the contributions submitted to Openchallenge are published under an open source license. My question is: would you for example consider donating some hours to help a goodwill project - if you could do that from home. This is of interest to me, as I would like to be sure that the time we put into building co-operating with a big organization like UNITeS and others in the future. Is not wasted. There is this thread about 'Volunteer Work Abroad' - which is good reading related to the subject. But it did not quite provide me with the answer."
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  • by glenstar ( 569572 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @02:47PM (#4524112)
    My firm is currently working with the economic development council of an impoverished county in the Pacific Northwest. While the technology in this county is not quite as outdated as that in, say, Gambia, it isn't *that* far behind.

    We have found that the various city, county, and private organizations are willing to bend over backwards to work with us. Bear in mind, I am not talking about a purely altruistic venture on my own firm's part, but rather a joint venture between a private company and the community, with profits being used to further develop technology-specific public works in the region.

  • Along those lines... (Score:4, Informative)

    by xipho ( 193257 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @02:53PM (#4524158)
    Check it out... do something like these folks [peaceworks.ca], except in your city.
  • by djmurdoch ( 306849 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @02:54PM (#4524165)
    Donating geek time to charity is something that I have been pondering for quite a while... if I decide to write a piece of software for my favorite church, can I deduct the fair market value of that software on my taxes?

    Don't know about the USA, but not in Canada. In Canada if you want to count the deduction, you have to sell the software to your church (counting the selling price as income), then donate the equivalent amount of money to the church to pay for it. You don't end up with any tax break because of it; you may even have to pay taxes (because you might be taxed at a higher rate than the charitable deduction).

    Duncan Murdoch
  • by CommieLib ( 468883 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @02:54PM (#4524171) Homepage
    IANATA (I am not a tax attorney), but from what I understand, you cannot deduct the value of donated time. If you mow lawns for a living and make $10 an hour, if you mow a lawn for charitable purposes you can only deduct the expense of the gasoline (and perhaps the depreciation on the lawnmower, but de minimus).

    As for hard $$$, that's definitely deductible as long as it's a legal charity, as far as I know.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 24, 2002 @02:57PM (#4524202)
    In the US at least, you can't write off your time, you can for tangibles (travel, hardware, etc.). The argument against being able to write off your time it that it is essentially an even swap - i.e. if you billed at $X/hr, you could just work for Y hours, get the income, and donate $(x*y) to the charity, and write it off. Instead, when you spend time working for a charity, you just call it even.
  • Geek Corp (Score:4, Informative)

    by 4of12 ( 97621 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @03:04PM (#4524257) Homepage Journal

    Sounds like a concept similar to this. [geekcorps.org]

  • At work we recieved in-kind donations of services on a semi-regular basis.

    We recognize the value of any donation--cash, goods, or services. Cash is cash, goods and services, if the kind of thing that we would have to pay for in our ordinary course of business, are recognized at what we would have to pay for them.

    AFAIK, for tax purposes any donation you make, cash or noncash, is treated as a cash gift. I.e., they assume that you are paid for the good, and that you donate your payment back to them.

    Morally, you shouldn't have to actually pay anything tax-wise for volunteering, but you shouldn't necessarily gain any tax benefits from it, either.

    This situation brought itself to bear a few years ago, when I learned that a friend of mine was donating not only his time, but also hard $$$ for server space for his favorite charity. What, if anything would he be able to write-off? He uses the server for other projects, so not 100% is for the charity.
    Any accountant-geeks out there?

    IANAA-G, but if the server is set up to regulary handle other accounts, he could probably get by with marking the cost of a server account as a donation, as well as what someone would pay him for to do the same job for them.

    Just document everything, talk to your accountant, and be honest. You're paying the bloke to save you money so as to justify their fee, so let them worry about it.

  • by minitrue ( 213792 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @03:21PM (#4524389)
    Although i don't quite get how volunteering outside of your country is "lowest common denominator" i do agree that there are lots of opportunities to volunteer at home. There are lots of local community technology groups that do work around issues like bringing open source to the community like . Others like [mediajumpstart.org] digitaldividenetwork/benton [digitaldividenetwork.org] do work around bridging the digital divide. There are groups for people who want to volunteer tech services for schools and nonprofits like CompuMentor [compumentor.org]. And we can't forget the work that local User Groups have done for schools, nonprofits, and individuals over the years.

    Although techie volunteer programs abroad are wonderful experiences (i've been fortunate to do community technology work in S. Africa and China), you don't have to travel thousands of miles away to do some tech good.
  • by RobertFisher ( 21116 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @04:00PM (#4524638) Journal
    MIT's Technology Review article [technologyreview.com] on the state of high technology in Ghana should be required reading for the original poster, and all those interested in the subject of technology in the third world. The content of the article should give considerable pause to any clueless individual thinking that happily hacking away in their living room is going to substantially impact the living conditions of those living in the third world. While the article points out the immense promise of technology for the third world (one man interviewed had never received a piece of snail mail in his life, but had internet access, and could read news from around the world), that promise largely remains unfulfilled. The author states

    Making a telephone call here requires persistence. Roughly half don't go through because of system failures, but that's only the start of Ghana's telephone woes. The country has a mere 240,000 phone lines--for a population of 20 million spread across an area the size of Britain. Moreover, telephone bills are inaccurate, overcharges common, and the installation of a new line can cost a business more than $1,000, the rough equivalent of the annual office rent. Lines are frequently stolen, sometimes with the connivance of employees of Ghana Telecom, the national carrier. Phones go dead, and remain unrepaired, for months. Some businesses hire staff for the chief purpose of dialing numbers until calls go through.

    Moreover, even those fortunate enough to have access to the internet find themselves distraught by the knowledge of the incredibly poor conditions in which they must live. One internet cafe owner stated that the majority of users were online in his cafe trying to figure out a way out their country.

    The upshot is that much more effort needs to be devoted towards basic infrastructure -- sanitary, transportation, and information -- before an idea like that of the poster's would make much sense.

    Bob
  • Re:Good idea (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 24, 2002 @04:56PM (#4525046)
    It would be a good idea to not use fictious cliche phrases like 'digital divide' when expressing your volunteer efforts.

    Those phrases only further the fiction and add to general ignorance of the facts.

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