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Donating Time To Goodwill Projects? 179

jukal asks: "I am in the process of writing a proposal for co-operation between Openchallenge and UNITeS (United Nations Information Technology Service) which is 'creating a global volunteer programme aimed at bridging the digital divide between industrialized and developing countries'. Currently & traditionally contributing as a volunteer means relocating yourself to the developing country to take part as a project developer/manager/specialist. My proposal to UNITeS is, in short, will be that people could participate in such software projects via Openchallenge - while staying in their home country, on their spare-time and while keeping their jobs. The local team in the developing country would, after defining and creating requirements specifications post sub-projects as tasks to Openchallenge. All the contributions submitted to Openchallenge are published under an open source license. My question is: would you for example consider donating some hours to help a goodwill project - if you could do that from home. This is of interest to me, as I would like to be sure that the time we put into building co-operating with a big organization like UNITeS and others in the future. Is not wasted. There is this thread about 'Volunteer Work Abroad' - which is good reading related to the subject. But it did not quite provide me with the answer."
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  • Good idea (Score:1, Interesting)

    by galacticdruid ( 569137 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @02:46PM (#4524100) Homepage
    I'm curious to see how this goes, I'm working on somewhat similar software. To answer the question, I personally would help if I truly backed the cause.
  • by Glove d'OJ ( 227281 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @02:47PM (#4524109) Homepage
    Donating geek time to charity is something that I have been pondering for quite a while... if I decide to write a piece of software for my favorite church, can I deduct the fair market value of that software on my taxes? Likewise, were people to contribute to an OpenChallenge project, would they be able to similary write-off the fair market value of that time?
    This situation brought itself to bear a few years ago, when I learned that a friend of mine was donating not only his time, but also hard $$$ for server space for his favorite charity. What, if anything would he be able to write-off? He uses the server for other projects, so not 100% is for the charity.
    Any accountant-geeks out there?

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  • Sure. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by failrate ( 583914 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @02:48PM (#4524116) Homepage
    People have already proven at least a passive willingness with distributed computing projects. The next obvious step is to donate a little non-profit coding. Plus, this works well as an adjunct to computer recycling programs that benefit "Third Worlds".
  • Perhaps I'm crazy... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by LordHunter317 ( 90225 ) <askutt@NOsPaM.gmail.com> on Thursday October 24, 2002 @02:48PM (#4524117)
    While I appreciate your noble intentions, I'm not 100% sure how software development would help most 3rd world and developing nations. Unless, I've really been living under a rock, most of the people in such nations who would benefit from such are high up the power ladder and have little to no interest in distributing down the ladder.

    Besides, wouldn't one have to focus on developing the infrstructure to run said software anyway. Last time I checked, running software needs computers. Computers need power, connectivity, and even sometimes access to this Internet thingy. If I wanted to lead a project to help developing nations, I'd be much more interested in building telecommunications and electrical infrastrucutre then writing software they probably can't run or use for much good yet anyway.

    While your idea is noble, I think perhaps it is a little too soon to be really globaly useful?
  • by IIRCAFAIKIANAL ( 572786 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @02:54PM (#4524175) Journal
    ...without leaving your neighborhood, let alone country.

    Go to your local library or school or community college and offer to teach free courses or help with the IT infrastructure. Be a guru for some programmer-to-be!

    I used to teach at an adult education centre which was free to students (though I did get paid, so I don't claim to be a humanitarian of unequal pedigree here). It was extremely rewarding and I learned a lot as well.

  • Comments (Score:4, Interesting)

    by kenp2002 ( 545495 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @02:56PM (#4524194) Homepage Journal
    I think that in general it would be better to localize charity activities. Not to say that someone in France shouldn't donate time and energy to someone in Finnland but I have serious questions on the validity of the UN's organizational units. We can argue the whole "Globalization" issues with this. I hear man organizations already doing charity work on donating CPUs with Linux and stuff to emerging worlds but honestly, who needs a PC if your starving to death. My personal feelings are in a world with limited resources we need to have priorities in charitable work:

    1: Basic Needs (Food, Clothing, Shelter)
    2: Self Sufficency (Ability to make\get you own Food, Clothing, and shelter. Watch the Movie Soilent Green, or read the book why this is imporant)
    3: Advancement of Society Standard (Literacy, Freedom, Education)
    4: Wants, Computers, Cars, Leather Jackets and Blue Jeans.

    Emergine nations need to have a solid foundation and bridging the Digital Divide seems pretty damn low on the ilst of priorities if I am starving and have polluted water to drink. I think we can hold of on donating the limited dollars there are to charity and set more, I wouldn't say appropriate goal (I like the idea of briding the digital divide), but more pressing needs. It would be far better for the natives of these emergine nations to be able to afford buying a computer versus getting one for free. Even better yet to have an industry where they can make and compete in computer production.

    I think that UNITES needs to focus more on developing industies, markets, and agricultural areas before worrying about poor people having email. The idea that they want to Bridge the Digital Divide seems oddly out of place when you apply it to nations that have people starving and dying of terrible diseases. There are limited charity dollars in the world and we need to take a hard look at where they go and how they are spent and I just don't see this as a project that needs the money. The Peace Corp. seems to be the best bang for the charitable dollar. I hope this post sparks some discussion on which charities do the most good with the dollars they get. Good luck to UNITES and friends.
  • Tech Corps (Score:5, Interesting)

    by jimmyCarter ( 56088 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @02:57PM (#4524197) Journal
    I'm in my first year as a Tech Corps [techcorps.org] volunteer in Ohio [techcorpsohio.org]. I basically donate two afternoons a month to a public school district in town to assist teachers with technology projects in the school. We'll be working on re-designing the high school's Web presence and we'll also be conducting a lesson with French students to make fictional travel Web sites of French travel desinations.

    In my opinion, you can't beat the gratification that comes from doing something like this. I get the opportunity to lend my expertise to an inner-city school district that could greatly use it. Definitely a win-win. I can't encourage this enough.
  • commitment needed (Score:3, Interesting)

    by yerdaddy ( 93884 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @03:07PM (#4524279)
    I love this idea but I am a little skeptical.

    I've worked on enough volunteer projects to realize that most volunteers are people that have too much time on their hands. They've just moved to a new city, are between jobs, broke up with their significant other, etc. There is nothing wrong with this other than that all these situations are extremely temporary. As soon as the other parts of their lives start back up, the desire to volunteer disappears.

    This a huge pain for the organization as they have devoted time and resources to orient and train these very short term volunteers.

    Your proposal is even more likely to suffer from this as volunteers who never meet the people they are helping will feel even less obligation to the people them. You need to find some way to secure a time commitment from you volunteers and work very hard to make them feel connected to the work, otherwise the turnover will kill you.
  • Re:Google? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 24, 2002 @03:19PM (#4524364)

    Seriously: I'd be interested! Just like the Peace Corps without the tropical fevers!


    No way! I was in the Peace Corps. Those tropical fevers were the best part. :-)

    Seriously, the best parts included:
    • meeting new people and learning about them by living with them.
    • the food! (interestingly enough)
    • being thrown in way over my head and making it.

    Something tells me that these experieces would be diminished if you "phoned it in."

  • If you build it... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Art Popp ( 29075 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @03:25PM (#4524415)
    ...we will come. Free Software is basically a "help your fellow man" kind of project, so it won't be very hard to find volunteers. However, as others have hinted, the real chore will be finding a task that can be solved by software that will benefit people without computers.

    I've helped out with a few foodbanks have always been shocked at how incredibly primitive their distribution systems are. They have to have nearly prohibitive amounts of notice to get the orders for the right amounts of items correctly taken care of up-line. Locally there are no computers involved in this at all. A hand totaled list is read over the phone to a person who plugs it into a spreadsheet. AAAAAAAck! This is a job that screams, "Automate me." The people involved drool at the opportunity to place their orders less than a month in advance and to get rid of the paperwork, but setting up the infrastructure is most of the problem and actually writing the order submission app is pretty easy. In this case and so many others that I can imagine the majority of the work will be done on the scene. But for the fraction that doesn't have to to be done there, start some sourceforge projects and ask for volunteers. You'll find'em.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 24, 2002 @04:04PM (#4524655)
    "If you teach a poor young man to shave himself, and keep his razor in order, you may contribute more to the happiness of his life than in giving him a thousand guineas. This sum may be soon spent, the regret only remaining of having foolishly consumed it; but in the other case, he escapes the frequent vexation of waiting for barbers, and of their sometimes dirty fingers, offensive breaths, and dull razors.

    Benj. Franklin, Autobiography [bartleby.com]

  • by namespan ( 225296 ) <namespan.elitemail@org> on Thursday October 24, 2002 @04:28PM (#4524850) Journal
    Obviously information technology will not resolve any immediate and desperate lack in basic needs -- food, medicine, adequate shelter, clothing, etc. But then again, neither will literacy. What literacy (and perhaps IT) can sometimes do, is raise the social capital of a region to the point where it becomes better at providing for itself and (eventually) participating in a larger economy.

    What happens when you give IT to a pre-industrial society? We don't know. It'd be interesting to find out.
  • by HealYourChurchWebSit ( 615198 ) on Thursday October 24, 2002 @05:07PM (#4525100) Homepage
    I run a blog that talks about running church web sites that they don't suck.

    One of the big issues we're discusssing is backend maintenance.

    Yes, I'm all for us volunteering our time. That said, we need to make sure we implement systems and solutions that won't leave staff or other volunteers frustrated and/or in worse shape when we move on.

    A good example is setting up a church web site. A geek comes along. Makes it look and feel great. A year passes. The geek is gone and now the organization is left there scratching their head trying to figure out how to modify things without breaking them.

    In other words. Let's volunteer. But lets not make this like the one time we worked in a soup kitchen so we could feel better about ourselves. Instead, lets provide permanent, long term solutions.

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