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Feedback on Palm OS 5 PDAs? 9

Dark Neuron asks: "I work with a PDA software development group, and have been interested in the changes in the Palm Operating System (from 4.01 to 5.0). There are 2 new devices available, the Sony Clie PEG-NX70V and the Palm Tungsten T. The Tungsten has built in Bluetooth, and the Clie has the advantage of an accessory Wireless LAN (WiFi) card. There are some Secure Digital 802.11b cards in development, that could be used by the Tungsten (the power drain of which I do not know) but none available yet but they may be out by 2003. Does anyone have experience with either new device yet, or knowledge of Secure Didital WiFi cards in development? Any feedback on the New OS 5.0 yet?"
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Feedback on Palm OS 5 PDAs?

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  • Already? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Bart van der Ouderaa ( 32503 ) on Thursday October 31, 2002 @11:00AM (#4571593)
    Isn't this a bit of a premature question?
    You as a PDA software developer should have these machines sooner than most. The Sony isn't even on sale yet and the Palm (reviewed at PDABuzz.com) has only been available since what, monday?

    Since those are the only 2 devices with Palm 5 at the moment, I'm sure not many have seen them.

    If you want this info, get the devices yourself and see. I'm very interested in what the challenges are for a PDA developer with the new Palm 5 OS (although, maybe I should wait until OS 6 :-)

    It'll take atleast a week before we get a good review in (the guys at pdabuzz got a review version).
  • Today's NYTimes [nytimes.com] has a story on the new Palm devices.

    (of course free reg. req.)
  • by WIAKywbfatw ( 307557 ) on Thursday October 31, 2002 @11:33PM (#4576176) Journal
    OS 5.0 is pretty good. I'd say it is 25% better than OS 4.0.

    However, MacOS X 10.0 is twice as good as OS 5.0 and Mac)S X 10.2 is 104% better.

    Pretty simple math, huh Bob?
  • I'm kinda curious about the performance differences on legacy apps running on StrongARM hardware. Since the Tungsten uses an OMAP 1510, how efficiently does the emulation layer run older apps?

    Any compatibility issues? Does HackMaster still work, or is it too hardware-specific?

    Any performance comparisons between a tiny natively-compiled app and an equivalently-designed legacy app? Does PalmOS 5 still work on MIPS, or is it now ARM-only? In other words, is there opportunity for some decent performance benchmarking on the platform?
    • For compatibility, you can test stuff with Palm's OS 5 Simulator, available here:

      http://www.palmos.com/dev/tools/simulator/

    • Got my Tungsten T last Monday and I'm very pleased. OS4 apps actually run faster on the new device, even with the emulation. This can be a problem with games that do not have proper timing loops, but everything else works great.

      There are compatibility issues. Software that has been written in complete compliance with OS 4.x will work, but it's actually quite easy to violate this without realising it. In any case there are a lot of non-compliant programs out there.

      Palm have a useful little compatability checking program that can be downloaded for free from www.palm.com/support/downloads/appcheck.html [palm.com]. This checks a PRC application for non-compliant code - don't know how reliable or fastidious it is. There is also a (fairly exhaustive) list of compatible and non-compatible programs at www.palm.com/support/tungstent/compatibility.html [palm.com].

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