Disabling Flash in the Browser? 54
fishdan asks: "I know there are a few tools for selectively disabling flash in IE, but there is currently nothing in Mozilla. I'm wondering how many people have just removed Flash (as I have) by deleting the appropriate files? I find it greatly enhances my web experience, and on the very few cases when i think there is something worth seeing in Flash, I'll check it out on someone else's computer. I know someone is working on a 'disable flash from this site' for Moz X.x.x, but I'm wondering what people are doing now? I'm also actively advising people I know to remove Flash because of the lack of control for it on the users end. Short of deleting Flash, there's nothing uses can do to to stop those irritating ads. I don't mind the moderate ones, but the excessive ads are enough for me to throw the baby out with the bath-water."
Just disable it (Score:5, Informative)
Am I missing something here?
Re:Just disable it (Score:2)
linux mozilla, 1.01, 1.1, 1.2b (or not too be?)
"I find it greatly enhances my web experience" (Score:5, Insightful)
To answer your question: yes I deleted flash. When I need to see something done in flash, I load up MSIE. (Hell, it's already loaded in memory anyway, might as well use it for something.)
I am of the opinion that the annoying flash ads are going to be what eventually "does-in" Flash. As soon as Mozilla makes it easy to deal with it -- and it will if people want that -- then say goodbye to our annoying, animated friend.
Re:"I find it greatly enhances my web experience" (Score:1)
MONTANA: Say hello to my little Flash!
File me under flizame (Score:5, Funny)
Ever try to administrate "easy" routers with Lynx? (Score:2)
I had the misfortune to try to administrate a DLink DI-614+ using Lynx, and couldn't do it. Indeed, I defy anyone to do it exclusively with ANY text-based browser.
Indeed, I suspect (but haven't tried it yet) that every Web-controlled network device can't be administrated in Lynx or any other text-only browser.
Just my pair-o-pennies(tm),
Re:Ever try to administrate "easy" routers with Ly (Score:2, Informative)
my Linksys 4-port Cable/DSL router is easily admindistered with links. Go linksys!
Re:Ever try to administrate "easy" routers with Ly (Score:1)
Re:File me under flizame (Score:2)
w3m also supports turning frames into tables (which it can then render)
obnoxious anti content with virus installer (Score:1, Offtopic)
I figure there's no hope for Flash ever becoming as useful to the end user after installation as it is before installation. Flash uninstalled is the easiest method of all for eliminating tons of obnoxious anti content.
Re:Ummm (Score:4, Insightful)
Two big problems with your "just don't install it advice"
0. If Flash isn't installed, then every time mozilla opens a page with embedded SWF files you get a dialog box "Click here to install the plugin". A painful interference, one that can happen several times per page if they are heavy on the Flash banner + Flash navbar + Flash mouseover miniad.
1. Most Flash is for ads, but some sites present their actual content in Flash (web-cartoons), and many more work it into the intro-page or navigational frame so that Flash becomes a barrier to reaching the content. In both those cases, you'd desire a toggle-switch to quickly enable/disable Flash depending on whether you need to see it at the moment.
(The zap-embeds bookmarklet trick is good, but not quite optimal)
Re:Ummm (Score:1)
Maybe the optimal solution is a combination of display:none in the userContent.css, and an unzap-embeds bookmarklet.
Junkbuster? (Score:5, Informative)
The same thing I have been doing with banner ads (Score:2)
One big disadvantage though is that if the Flash ad is coming from the same domain you want to visit, you can't block it or you won't be able to view the site.
You could also download a proxy to run on your machine and set it up to block Flash or specific URLs that point to a Flash ad. Again, this my be more work than you want to do.
Here's my solution (Score:5, Informative)
However, I have a solution. I found these wonderful little "bookmarklets" that work in mozilla. Find them here [squarefree.com].
They are little javascript things that remove annoyances from pages, including blink text, javascript, embedded event handles, and even colored backgrounds and text, and background music.
The one you want is called "zap embeds". It will kill all flash from the page you are looking at, leaving almost everything else intact. You can also use the vanilla "zap" which zaps Flash and some other stuff.
I personally put a few of these in my personal toolbar. It's the first good use I found for that toolbar. Thus, one click away from killing flash on any page!
IMHO, the perfect solution. Whoever wrote these is my saviour. Everyone should get these.
Removed the library (Score:2, Informative)
After I removed the file, I found that in most cases I didn't want or need it. If the few cases where I did, I just used netscape instead of my uisual mozila.
Ad Blocker (Score:2)
the many ad-blockers out there.
Proxomitron in my case.
It intercepts the flash, and replaces it with a hyperlink. Makes it easy in the rare event I need to view the flash (some online catalogs, the occasional game, etc.).
And before anyone bitches, I don't block all ads, just the annoying ones, so I'm not taking advantage of a "free lunch". I can see the OSDN Self Serve Ad System banner just fine.
Privoxy (Score:2, Informative)
Privoxy will disable Flash. It will also let you add sites to a whitelist for the few sites that you do want to see flash on.
why the animosity (Score:1, Flamebait)
they're working on making the back button work, and all the other things you guys whine about.
Flash isn't that big of an annoyance for me. For me, annoyances are things like getting my car stolen, or getting into a fight.
You guys that think Flash is annoying need to step back and have a look at things.
Re:why the animosity (Score:2)
Check out washingtonpost.com: animated ads, including one from Mervis Diamonds that "breaks out" of the ad banner to obscure the article you're reading, when it first loads. Or the furniture ad that plays link a movie, making it annoyingly hard to read the article.
Get Proxomitron, and filter it out. Find or write a filter to replace it with a link.
Re:why the animosity (Score:2)
flash makes it too easy for mr. x to open up large ads, or other totally annoying ads, over the whole goddamn page, or do just about anything else on your computer too.
sure, it's 'handy' and 'easy'. but it's basically useless extra weight that more and more web-developers except to find on users computer, even though they don't even need it for their site. what good are some cyber motorbikes zooming around in a intro to motherboard manufacturers page? (why it's useless extra weight? most of the things that can be done with it can be done otherwise, especially what comes to the stupid ads, except then they would have to behave). more and more and more flash is used making the pages unreadable by trying to be intuitive, except that most of the time's nothing describes a link with content of bios updates better than "bios updates", or then the web-dev is just too ignorant that having 500kb of extra weight on basically 30kb page isn't that smart(now, i'm on a 100mbit-univ line so it doesn't really matter to me that much but it still takes extra minute or two to get past those flashy intros and find the real content.).
only good 'content' i've seen done with flash are the occasional humorous web-cartoons.
and it's been around, what, 4 years? imagine mozilla still trying to make back button working.
Re:why the animosity (Score:2)
1. Because flash "artists" don't understand animation. They make you waste your time waiting for text to zoom across the screen and for images to slowly scale and for slow fades. That might work for TV viewers sitting on a couch, but someone sitting at a computer doesn't want to wait around.
2. Because I don't want to see animated ads, and I don't want to hear ads either. Flash doesn't provide pause and mute controls, so I don't use Flash.
Re:why the animosity (Score:2, Insightful)
Some of us are STILL on modem, since we're over 17500 distance from a CO, and the only available broadband is iDSL at over $100 / month.
It's pathetic when ads are the majority of the bandwidth from a webpage. Websites like ESPN and CNN have become quite simply obnoxious. Some flash is good, "AdFlash" is just annoying.
Re:why the animosity (Score:1)
Homsar! (Score:2, Interesting)
Personally, the last time I tried to install Mozilla, I had a harder time getting Flash ON it.
No, I have nothing useful to contribute to this discussion. Carry on.
Re:Homsar! (Score:1)
Use FreeBSD! (Score:1)
This involves a restart but (Score:3, Informative)
How to uninstall the Macromedia Flash Player plug- (Score:2, Informative)
To manually uninstall the Macromedia Flash Player plug-in (Other browsers, Macintosh and Windows)
1 Quit the browser.
2 Locate the browser application folder on your hard drive.
3 Locate the Plug-ins folder inside the browser application folder.
For example, C:\Program Files\Netscape\plugins\ (Windows), HD:Applications:Netscape:Plugins (Macintosh), or
The exact location of plug-ins folder may vary depending on platform/browser.
4 Locate the Macromedia Flash Player plug-in:
On Windows, the plug-in is named NPSWF32.dll.
On Macintosh, it is called Shockwave-Flash-NP-PPC or Shockwave-Flash-NP-68.
On Linux and Solaris the Macromedia Flash Player consists of two files: libflashplayer.so and ShockwaveFlash.class.
5 Delete the plug-in file.
6 Restart the browser.
privoxy (Score:1)
Cascading Style Sheets (Score:5, Informative)
Taken from this thread in Mozillazine [mozillazine.org].
-ms
Re:Cascading Style Sheets (Score:1)
I am using version 0.9.4 and there are no .css files in my profile. I don't want a newer version was the last version that worked with my broker and banking.
I use two browsers (Score:2)
Flash hogs /dev/dsp (Score:2, Interesting)
For IE users.. (Score:2)
A good guide to completely disable or uninstall the Flash player/plugin, with lots of links to such s/w's besides other ad-blockers for both windows & linux. [ozoneasylum.com]
a commercial product - flashswitch [flashswitch.com]
Google also returns a lot of results [google.com].
Disable plugins, User CSS.. (Score:2)
Someone posted some CSS which should work in Gecko based clients and Opera (and probably others); just add it to your user stylesheet (Prefs -> Page Style -> My Style Sheet in Opera, userContent.css in your profile dir in Mozilla).
You can use user CSS to kill a lot of other web based spam too - e.g. my anti-banner.css [aagh.net] nukes, you guessed it, banners. Opera still loads the banners with this, so it's a good choice if you want to support sites but don't want to see the spam
Why hate Flash? (Score:2)
Its programming language has evolved to something pretty nice these days. I find it a lot easier to seperate the frontend and the backend using flash than using html. (html/php mixes too much code and look, and PHP->XML->XSLT->HTML is ridiculous, and buys you very little. The only thing that kindof works is relatively simple templates)
The only thing I don't like about it, is that it doesn't "gracefully degrade", I mean it's still too hard to expose the structure/content/flow like you can with html.
On the other hand, if I try to do everything by the book using standard xhtml/css/js, for the more complicated things I spend ages getting things to look/react right in the different browsers I want to support (IE Mac&Windows>5, Mozilla,
The fact that Flash is completely vector based is also a major asset, now that there's such a wide range of resolutions in use. (everything between 800x600 and 1600x1200 is extremely common - if I create fixed-pixel content for 800x600 I can guarantee you it'll look too small in 1600x1200)
If I compare html and flash on features and general usability, I'd score both almost evenly: they both have things going for them. As long as I need to create simple information based sites, I use html. The minute I need to make something more complicated like a "web app" I use Flash.
Re:browsing in 1600x1200 resolution (Score:2)
you don't need to browse a site fullscreen to want to scale it if you're using 1600x1200.
If you are using such high resolutions, tell me you never increased the font size in your favourite browser (zoom in galeon, the big "+/-" in Mac IE, the "text size" in Win IE etc) The mere existence of these easily acessible buttons should tell you something.
The problem is that once you start scaling it, the whole site kind of breaks because everyone is measuring in pixels, using unscaled bitmaps (gifs/jpgs), tables with fixed pixel widths etc.
If you're really careful, you can make html sites that can scale properly (using em's as units for instance, and making even the pictures scale), But it's an order of magnitude harder, and you don't get any guarantees that the browser will actually render it properly.
Try it.
Disabling Flash on Mac OS X (Score:3, Interesting)
I went to /Library/Internet Plugins/ in the Terminal, and issued this command:
chmod 600 Shockwave\ Flash\ NP-PPCNow the web browser is no longer allowed to access the Flash plugin. Simple, and good enough for me.
JP
Thanks for the question (Score:1)
To people who wonder why Flash is bad, or at least can be:
* It gives the web developer way too much control over the user's screen, sometimes taking over the whole screen.
* Rarely is used for anything useful, except for animations in my online chemistry course.
* Is hard to temporarily disable, until this question was posted. Just do a google search on disabling flash. See how many hits will tell you how to do the exact opposite.
For windows users... (Score:2)
Flash Off:
Flash On:You'll need to adjust your paths to fit your system...
Re:For windows users... (Score:2)
Using the scripts that nuke flash content (and it's easy to turn on/off) then you wouldn't have to worry about this.
At a previous job we had a proxy that pre-processed the HTML and stripped out the flash embed tags. Perhaps there's a way to run this locally and turn the flash nukage on/off according to need, but otherwise I built-in browser script or CSS works.
my experience (Score:1)
Then I philosophized about my use of flash. I found that none of the sites I regularly visit requires me to have flash installed to view contend. However many of the regular sites use flash in advertisement.
"Hmmmm" was my first thought - "Is this the only reason that flash got installed in the first place ?". I removed the flash plugin and my browsing experience has become much better.
Whenever I do come across a site that requires flash to view contend. I just leave the site. If the site doesn't provide HTML it ain't got enough for me.
tool in question works for mozilla (Score:1)