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On The Legality of Public Viewing? 74

bobej1977 asks: "I'm looking into opening a technology-centric cafe/bar, and am wondering about the legality of showing different types of media in the cafe. Specifically, I'm interested in using a PVR to build a library of popular television shows (Futurama, Simpsons, Enterprise, etc) and making it available to patrons of the cafe. Many establishments show live sports events or even popular shows but where exactly is the legal-line that a business shouldn't cross? While I'm at it, what about showing DVDs in the cafe? While I'm sure that doing so is prohibited, would it be tolerated since I wouldn't be charging to watch them? The precedent I'm thinking of is that some electronics or video rental stores that show movies, in the store. If not, what kind of arrangements could be made to get permission, if I'd like to have a LOTR-a-thon?"
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  • Seinfeld Theme (Score:3, Interesting)

    by nycroft ( 653728 ) on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @03:59PM (#6164173) Homepage
    In Santa Barbara, CA, there are 3 delis that operate under the name Bitterman's Deli. They have a whole Seinfeld theme. They play recorded episodes of the show on a continuous loop using a VCR. I don't know if having video tape (analog) vs. PVR (digital) is distinguished under any laws, but maybe you can call Bitterman's and ask them.
  • Bars (Score:5, Interesting)

    by bofkentucky ( 555107 ) <bofkentucky.gmail@com> on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @04:09PM (#6164291) Homepage Journal
    have to order their cable/DBS as an "entertainment" establishment that gives them the right to "rebroadcast" to their patrons at the location. Their prining is much higher than your monthly cable bill call up you cable co or a Sat TV provider to find out pricings, its probably based on seats/TV's/Patrons in the building. Pay-Per-View wrestling and boxing matches are outrageous (One bar I know was charged $2000 to show a Tyson fight), but there were we'll over 600 people that night, so they made that back on the cover.
  • My Twisted View (Score:3, Interesting)

    by 4of12 ( 97621 ) on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @04:18PM (#6164410) Homepage Journal

    when I saw the headline I was thinking of Public Viewing not as showing DVD's in public venues, but "viewing the public"

    Imagine piping in live feeds with the ultimate in reality TV - highly zoomable video cameras (including shotgun mikes) aimed at beaches, at rough streets at night, the Capitol steps in DC, downtown Tikrit, the West Bank, G.W. Bush's nieces antics, Hillary and Bill's arguments, etc.

    Now that would be interesting.

    The day will come when highly detailed video and audio monitoring becomes sufficiently inexpensive that the issue of what constitutes a reasonable expection of privacy in public will come more to the fore than it is today.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @04:19PM (#6164424)
    IANAL, but I think you're going to have to pay the Man for everything you show. I'll give you an example: my father owns a restaurant. He has 5 cds in a CD changer that he plays at this restaurant. Originally, there was no problem, as the music wasn't part of the theme of the restaurant and was considered merely "incidental." But the minute he started having live entertainment at the restaurant, bam, BMI or RIAA or somebody showed up looking for his money - because he has entertainment there, the CDs are no longer incidental, but are considered entertainment.
  • by Urox ( 603916 ) <luthien3@jun[ ]om ['o.c' in gap]> on Tuesday June 10, 2003 @05:07PM (#6164944) Journal
    They show movies and whatever else projected on the wall. They'll have special advertised "dinner and a movie" nights so you'll know what they'll be playing. I don't know the name of the place but they're right next door to the Stinking Rose.

    I'm hearing a lot of disagreement on slashdot (no, I am not suprised). Unfortunately, I'm not a lawyer type and the ones I know are currently 800 miles away at an unspecified location. I think that it is doable but that you're best covering your butt.

    And about some place playing music in between sets, I would think someone could get around this by allowing a "patron" to enjoy listening to whatever music they wanted and it just so happened that the rest of the audience "had" to listen to it.

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