Rules for Teenage Internet Access? 2067
Kent Brewster writes "Despite dire warnings, we've gone ahead and put computers with Internet access into our adolescent (11, 12, and 15-year-old) childrens' rooms. We've got a nebulous set of rules, which include several like these: Keep the door open when you're on the computer. Don't quickly exit from everything when we walk past. Don't ever lie to us about what you're doing. Unfortunately we've had instances where all of these rules - especially that last one - have been broken, so now we are looking at getting more specific. We'd be very interested in hearing from both sides of the fence: parents with Net-connected progeny, and those who are chafing under their rule. Parents, once you're past making the huge mistake of actually letting the kids have computers in their rooms, what's a reasonable set of guidlines? Non-parents, what are the rules that chap your hide the worst? Do they actually make a difference in your behavior, or do you just sneak past them anyway? Finally, and this is sort of a meta-question from an exasperated dad, does everybody lie about what they're doing on the Internet?"
kleenex (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Trust them (Score:4, Funny)
Can't touch me (Score:4, Funny)
Block Yahoo news (Score:5, Funny)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=
First. (Score:5, Funny)
Do not let them have access to the internet. With that in mind, if you do let them have access to the internet, only allow port 80. And only let them have access to Yahoo! Kids. Do not under ANY circumstances give them access to IRC. IRC is by far the root of all evil.
If you are going to give them access to the internet, make sure to stick their computer behind 4 bridges, and a NAT. Filter everything that you could possibly do. In all cases, do NOT let them have access to the internet if at all possible.
Snoop on your kids, msgsnarf is your friend. Firewall logs and snort also help you filter out porn traffic.
In essence, do NOT trust your kids. They will break your trust, it has been proven time and time again. I do not remember the last time I listened to my Dad, uh yeah.. haha.
In his case, I just make sure his computer doesn't get infected with more then 10 viruses. Although he is actually a computer teacher, but that doesn't mean he knows anything about computers..
go windows (Score:2, Funny)
Even the most Cyber Baby'esque child in your house can't totally remove the logs of internet traffic.
Basically, if you cant trust yer kids to keep off the pr0n, don't let them have internet in their room... or put the computer in the living room and only let them use it when yer home. If yer kid is looking at pr0n in the living room and masturbating in the relative public of that place, illicit internet use is the least of your worries.
whatever... trust, or force... its all good.
and now I'm an internet ninja (Score:5, Funny)
Re:lying (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This seems simple... (Score:1, Funny)
Drugs or Masturbation (Score:3, Funny)
"Don't forget to clean off your keyboard when you're done."
"Mom, that wasn't me. Last time, Dad didn't clean off the monitor either. And I didn't visit Jizzfest.cum. He used my profile!"
I OBJECT!!!! (Score:2, Funny)
Irish people are perfectly capable of being paedophiles and I object to your racist and horrific implication that the two cannot coincide, you insensitive clod!
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Re:Don't put the computers in their rooms (Score:5, Funny)
And don't let them view slashdot.
Re:Block Yahoo news (Score:4, Funny)
Now if someome would just mod it up as funny, many more slashdoters can enjoy Portman nude.
Peter... (Score:2, Funny)
This your dad. Listen, it is 10;30pm on a Saturday night. Why don't you go out and get laid; I'll give some money and point you in the right direction. Otherwise, get your hand off your pecker, close that god-awful slashdot page thing you're so obsessed with and curl up with some milk and cookies.
Love,
Papa Kieser
Re:Trust them (Score:1, Funny)
We won't really know until you're dead, will we?
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Pornography is *evil*? (Score:5, Funny)
Pornography is evil now? Wow, I'm right up there with Saddam Hussen. But where the hell are my 70 virgins!?
Re:Block Yahoo news (Score:2, Funny)
http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/photo.asp?sect
Re:ahh, to be a teenager (Score:3, Funny)
If the kids were mature, you wouldn't need any rules at all.
Re:My 2 cents as an older brother... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Trust them (Score:5, Funny)
Uhh.. (Score:3, Funny)
That dosn't make any sense at all. It would take far more then one horse power to drag a horse that fast with any resonable amount of friction.
Re:Childs Internet Access (Score:4, Funny)
As any good Christian would.
Re:and now I'm an internet ninja (Score:3, Funny)
Got a link?
Re:Pornography is *evil*? (Score:5, Funny)
and Praise Bob for that!
Re:Childs Internet Access (Score:4, Funny)
Eagle scouts? (Score:5, Funny)
That explains it. If they're Eagle Scouts, then they already see enough porn when the scoutmaster asks them to "stay after".
Re:Trust them (Score:4, Funny)
Masturbation (Score:1, Funny)
stats (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Trust them (Score:1, Funny)
*shutter*
Re:Trust them (Score:4, Funny)
Except spammers of course.
Re:Childs Internet Access (Score:1, Funny)
"I dunno, was Mom?"
How did you get 3 kids anyway? Stork?
Re:Trust them (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Trust them (Score:4, Funny)
Thank god most kids don't think like you.
Re:Now look here (Score:1, Funny)
Heh (Score:4, Funny)
Might be an interesting contest... I'm kind of tickled by the thought... bring it on.
Re:Pornography is *evil*? (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Age apropriate rules are the key (Score:4, Funny)
Instant message me when you have teenage daughters please.
Trust but Verify (Score:4, Funny)
Likewise, good parents generally are the product of a good example, even if they aren't perfect and morally pure as the driven snow. Good parents generally trust their children, but also remember what it was like when they were kids themselves, and will use that knowledge to verify that their own kids aren't doing things that might endanger them.
Yes, I trust my sons, but it's not blind trust. They know that I will come into the room unannounced, and that I will want to know who they're chatting with, who they're exchanging e-mail with, and so on. They know why I'll do this.
BTW, on a lark, I posed as an older female one time to chat with my son and one of his friends. It was enlightening (to say the least) some of the language I saw. I offered to "teach them a lesson. They eagerly agreed. My lesson?
"Never
Never
Never
chat the way you have here, unless you are certain you know who you're talking to. This is your dad. Go to bed."
I pointed out that I could have been a nutcase (which I am), or worse, the father of my son's girlfriend. I pointed out that my son would've never seen her again if it had been her father posing as this older female.
Open door where the computer is? Check.
Unannounced walk-ins? Check.
Same rules for dad as the sons? Check.
Trust my sons? Check
Verify that they're being honest with me? Absolutely.
Tim
Re:Trust them (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Privacy Invading Software (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Trust them (Score:3, Funny)
I just have one link for these people...
Beat Your Kids!! [xmission.com]
Re:What type of kid? (Score:5, Funny)
Absolutely. If you're skipping school to play Doom, you seriously need a computer upgrade.
Re:Trust them (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Pornography is *evil*? (Score:2, Funny)
But putting it into the catagory of actual 'evil' I just can't grasp.
Pornography is evil because it has a single purpose. That purpose is evil because Jesus says so: "Whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart" (Matthew 5:28). Adultery is evil ("Thou shalt not commit adultery"); therefore lust is evil; therefore pornography - which is intended to stir up lust - is evil.
So you honestly equate it to the same level as, say, Hitler?Hardly. Murder is evil, and stealing is evil, but murder is obviously worse than theft. Hitler is obviously worse than Hefner, but that doesn't make Hefner a righteous dude.
You Idiot (Score:4, Funny)
Asking slashdot for parenting advice is amazingly funny.
Next up, dating advice.
Re:Pornography is *evil*? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Trust them (Score:3, Funny)
Limit their bandwidth! (Score:4, Funny)
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And everyone knows you can't get pregnant if you do it *before* 9.00pm...
Re:Trust them (Score:1, Funny)