Who Still Uses Old Monitors? 305
skurrier asks: "Reading the comments for a totally unrelated article, an almost off topic post caught my eye: Someone said that they still had a Sun branded Sony GDM class monitor from way back, and (of course) it rocked then and still rocks. (Sorry, can't find the article, yet alone the comment) As I looked across my desk to that similar Sun branded Sony behemoth plugged into my PC I asked myself: How many people still use ancient monitors? And more importantly, what is the oldest monitor you still use regularly?"
Tandy (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Tandy (Score:3, Informative)
CGA = 2^2 colors
EGA = 2^4 colors
VGA = 2^8 colors
XGA was eXtended Graphics Adapter in Radio Shack (Tandy) terms, but what meant performance wise I was never quite sure. As long as I could play Bard's Tale on it, I was a happy camper.
Re:Tandy (Score:2)
Re:Tandy (Score:5, Funny)
Commodore. Poke around. Ha ha.
sigh...
Re:Tandy (Score:5, Funny)
Commodore. Poke around. Ha ha.
I just took a peek and I don't have any mod points to mod you funny.
*ducks*
Re:Tandy (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Tandy (Score:2)
CGA - Color Graphics Adapter
EGA - Enhanced Graphics Adapter
VGA - Video Graphics ARRAY
Man they caught a bunch of people on that one. Luckily the voices in my head knew the answer.
Not ALWAYS, but... (Score:2)
Apple branded Sony here (Score:4, Interesting)
It gets me 1600x1200x32, so I'm happy.
Re:Apple branded Sony here (Score:2, Insightful)
I don't play games that require killer refresh rates, so the display issue is for crispness and size.
The rest of the system is much the same. If parts need an upgrade that will actually help me, it gets done, else I'm happy with what is there.
Re:Apple branded Sony here (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Apple branded Sony here (Score:2)
I have a 19" Mitsubishi Diamondtron (I think)from 1999 or 2000 on my G5 at home. The monitor still looks great. I can get 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz.
--Mike
Re:Apple branded Sony here (Score:2)
My Magnabox branded Philips monitor (from my first computer, a 12 Mhz Magnabox 286) survived 9 years through out several generations of hardware. Back in 1992 I was the only one my classroom with a VGA monitor and tough the max res was just 800x600 I loved that 14" old style monitor. It was very sad to see it die.
Found memories of downloading babe pics (not even soft porn) from my local BBS and see them in all their 16 bit glory came back to me man.IBM 3151 (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:IBM 3151 (Score:2)
Re:IBM 3151 (Score:2)
Re:IBM 3151 (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:IBM 3151 (Score:2, Funny)
But my
Re:IBM 3151 (Score:3, Interesting)
DEC vt420 (Score:3, Interesting)
Not a monitor - a TV (Score:3, Interesting)
The resolution was a little (ok, a lot) crappy, but it worked. And it was damned cool at the time, too.
A Gateway - Early 90's vintage (Score:2)
Had to give up my old monitor... (Score:2, Informative)
I gave the old monitor away to the first person who wanted it, and now have a flat panel display - a lot easier to carry up all those stairs.
Were it not for the move, I would have continued to use the old monitor until it died.
And the other end of the scale... (Score:2)
Re:And the other end of the scale... (Score:2)
Not that old really ... (Score:2)
I occasionally plug my Macintosh Colour Display (13") when Dad brings up his powerbook, but that monitor's just started making sqealing noises
MAME (Score:2, Interesting)
Pff (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Pff (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Pff (Score:2)
Oh, and it should be as old as me (born in 79)
Re:Pff (Score:2)
Re:Pff (Score:2)
Too much of a pussy to read punch cards???? Kids today! Hell in a hand basket, I tell ya!
Re:Bah (flashback) (Score:3, Funny)
Bolding text was a real fun task... A{backspace}AL {backspace}LP {backspace}PO {backspace}O {space}.
Or counting out letters so that you could center text on the page properly.
My first printer was an electronic typewriter hooked up to a serial port on the computer. Boy did that prove difficult (spent a day at the local repair shop getting them to make it work). Not to mention trying to print a 20 page term-pape
10 year old 14" TVM (Score:5, Funny)
Re:10 year old 14" TVM (Score:2)
The oldest monitor I use on a regular basis is my ViewSonic 21PS from 1996.
Sadly a LCD flatscreen is nowhere in my near future... even if my monitor or my wife's monitor (a 19" VS) died we have two spare 19" monitors from when we both ran 2 computers.
Re:10 year old 14" TVM (Score:2)
i have a P75 that i was going to start using as a dedicated firewall, moving it off my duallie setup. but was certainly going to do the compile on another machine and possibly only compile the kernel, and stage3 setup on the box itself.
machine will share monitors with the duallie fileserver which has a gateway2000 branded 17" sony from 91. which i actually got on warrantee from an older (ca. 1990) exact same spec 17" gateway2000 branded s
VT420 (Score:2)
Why? (Score:2)
I've got a sissy-ass 17" imac and love it, but maybe I could strengthen the lampshade-arm and bolt on the old CRT...
I have a 12" Wang (Score:5, Funny)
Seriously though, it's real. It has a vga connector and can do 640x480 in 4 glorious shades of gray.
Re:I have a 12" Wang (Score:2)
Sitting through the Ph.D. walk-throughs at my graduation last June, I counted at least two Dr. Wangs and one Dr. Fang. I couldn't decide which name I would want more.
Re:I have a 12" Wang (Score:2)
IBM xxxx (12", Monochrome) (Score:2)
(haven't plugged my VT yet)
Great for Servers (Score:2)
Old monitors are great for this stuff--when they die, you just dump them (here in Switzerland, there is a recycling tax on all electronic equipment; anyone who sells anything electrical or electronic is obliged by law to take
Re:Great for Servers (Score:2)
Don't know the makes/models, (Score:2)
The only two computers to have trouble with their monitors are the two 486's in the service area. One has a dodgy power button, and the other just died a few weeks ago. Don't make 'em like they used to.
RCA video jacks... (Score:2)
Some of them have swivel screens.
The video input is an RCA jack!
The 'computers' are old HP Series 300 stations.
14" VGA, 20min warmup (Score:2, Interesting)
- check freenode via bitchx
- config router
I'd love to show a pic, especially alongside the router with no case as it's laughable
In fact all my monitors are old - 15" at best and CRT
But... they don't lose pixels and are faily bomb proof!
Apple IIe Green Monochrome Monitor (Score:2, Interesting)
When I was playing with video camera's and a Panasonic 'digital' video editing board [cgi.ebay.ch], I used the Apple as a monitor of my incoming video signal. :-)
Ten years later the thing still works, but not used anymore.
A bit from here, a bit from there (Score:2)
Amiga Forever! (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Amiga Forever! (Score:2)
It does Progressive NTSC, SVGA up to 800x600, RGB, and EGA. Same tube as the old AppleColor 13 monitors -- it weighs a ton. My Commodore 1084S is now sitting on a shelf.
Re:Amiga Forever! (Score:2)
My 19-incher (Score:2)
Of course nowadays I can get a 19" flat-screen for about half of what I paid back then - but I have something that works very well so I'll wait for the prices to come down a bit more.
Re:My 19-incher (Score:2)
We can get 19" (mostly) flat-screens for $100 here...
IBM XGA (Score:2)
Sun GDM-17E20 (Score:2)
Sun GDM-20D10 (Score:2)
It finally got replaced last month by a 18.1" Dell UltraSharp LCD (same size corner-to-corner), but it s
Sun GDM19 (Score:2)
Iiyama Vision Master 500 (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Iiyama Vision Master 500 (Score:3, Interesting)
I've always been very pleased by Iiyama's monitors, but the replacement I bought 2 years ago was an NEC monitor, which is the best aperture grill screen I've ever seen (though I haven't seen Iiyama's newer monitors, since the 450 line is up to 455 for the AG screens, I bought the non-pro 450 for home use specifically becau
Re:Iiyama Vision Master 500 (Score:2)
Thomson EGA (Score:2)
It is a toss up. (Score:2)
Sun monitors rock... (Score:3, Informative)
I also have an ancient 19" Sun branded Sony Trinitron monitor, still just as usable as it was when it was new (over a decade ago).
It's hooked up to a SPARCstation 10 from the same era, though it's been hopped up a bit (dual 166MHz HyperSPARC CPUs).
The only drawback to this monitor is an advantage in the winter... it produces more heat than any monitor I've ever seen.
I don't even need to run my heater most nights, but then I live in South Florida (yes, it does get down into the 40s down here).
Re:Sun monitors rock... (Score:2)
Re:Sun monitors rock... (Score:2)
I know how you feel, I'm originally from Michigan... see my response to the reply posted parallel to yours.
Re:Sun monitors rock... (Score:2)
Re:Sun monitors rock... (Score:2)
Please keep in mind that dwellings in the north are insulated and have much more efficient heaters.
Try sleeping with the windows partway open (the windows down here are single-pane, and leak horribly) when it's 40F and windy.
I grew up in Michigan.
Same thing is/was true in reverse... 20 years ago, very few houses had air-conditioning (and Michigan _does_ get in the high-90s in mid-summer).
The compact Macs - 9" mono Mac SE, 1987 (Score:4, Interesting)
Cheers,
Ian
possibly my monitors you're talking about (Score:2)
I use a 21" Sun branded Sony 5010pt at home now, does 1600x1200x75hz nicely, and if i could stand the flicker would do 2048x1536x60, still readable. The 20e20's will only do 65hz refresh at 1600x1200. Much fun to get THAT working under windows. I run them at 1400x1050x75 at work.
T
HP A1097C (Score:2)
It came from an old HP X-Terminal, and I rescued it from being thrown out at a former place of work.
It has a few problems. It's Sync On Green, which means it won't work with most graphics cards. Luckily, Matrox video cards for some unknown reason are able to output a SoG signal.
It doesn't support DPMS.
Although it works fine under X windows, I've yet
my television (Score:2)
i don't use it on my computer, but it's still a monitor.
The oldest.. (Score:2)
CTX3700 Ultra Screen (Score:2)
Thankfully, it doesn't really do it at 1280x1024@85, so I kinda lucked out. It has some other issues though, namely, there's a bit of blurring that occurs in a certain part of the screen. I don't know if it is due to the guns wearing out or what. Anyway, for a free 19
Old Stuff (Score:2)
I also have two 1982 Magnavox separated video monitors (color), one is being used as a TV monitor on a VCR tape/DVD deck and the other still serves an ATARI 800XL (1 meg ram upgrade with 500 mb hard drive) that I use for qu
Does my VT320 Count, or my Apple 2e monitor (Score:2)
I also have a working apple 2e that I turn on from time to time that has the original apple branded monitor.
No old monitors here (Score:2)
My poor kids (Score:2)
Maximum resolution is 800x600 and sometimes the screen goes pink. You have to hit the side of the screen for it to go back to normal.
And I wonder why they always use my computer...
Oh, I do... (Score:2)
I gave my dad my old 17" monitor, which was a Viglen Envy (probably MAG or something) that my employer had dropped down the stairs whilst moving. It's still working.
The only old monitors I don't still use are my PAL Philips 8852 from my Amiga days, and the 15" Iiyama which I bought with my first PC, back in 1995 for about 300GBP. That's the most expensive monitor I've ever bought!
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I use an Apple III monitor from 1983 (Score:5, Interesting)
I have also written a little WinAmp pluggin to demo the effect, since you can't download my old monitor. It is here. [angelfire.com] Go into the Preferences panel, select Plug-ins, then Visualization. Select the vis_text.dll pluggin and then in the drop-down box at the bottom select Strange.
Double Headed Monster (Score:2)
Zenith (Score:2)
Ahhh, Hercules... (Score:2, Interesting)
I have.... (Score:2)
My ancient 15 inch Trinitron (the last monitor I actually purchased, some 8 years ago) is currently suffering from a near-failure cable that my ex-roomate in college pushed over the edge. I have 2 17 inch trinitrons scavenged from work, one's old and one has a screen that was windexed.
Re:I have.... (Score:2)
Re:I have.... (Score:3, Informative)
First, they may attack the anti-glare coatings of the screen, which is what happened to one of my monitors before I acquired it.
Second, they may set your monitor on fire if they produce any flamable vapors. This happened more than once in the eighties.
Third, a damp cloth does a perfectly good job of cleaning monitors, with perhaps a little bit of dish soap.
An original NEC Multisync (Score:2)
You know your monitor is old if it has a vertical hold adjustment knob.
Amdek Color-I (Score:2, Interesting)
Yep, not even the Color-I Plus. No power LED for us!
My dad's had to repair it a couple times, but we still run it for video gaming. Man, that thing's had more stuff connected to it....
* I believe the Ohio Scientific with a huge 8K RAM used a different monitor, and the C= 64 was the original reason this one was purchased. But I'm too young to
Still have my Optiquest 14" monitor (Score:2)
I still prefer CRTs over flatscreen LCDs. Even at work, I was offered for LCD flatscreens, but I told them to give me CRTs for work.
LCDs are fine for laptops, but not for desktop to me. I will get a flatscreen LCD when its technology improves enough to match CRTs.
Ancient? (Score:2, Funny)
I surely am going to die from excessive X-Ray exposure.
Monitors I wish I kept (Score:2)
Zenith Flat 14" VGA - around 1988 Zenith came out with a flat CRT. The thing was gorgeous - the things cost around $1100. IT *REAALY* was flat - it wasen't a curved tube with a bunch of thick glass on it to make it look flat. built like a tank.
IBM 17" Monochrome MGA/XVGA monitor - circa 1990. This monochrome monitor was the best thing ever for text. You could get it to sync at 120HZ - really. Andbecause it was monochrome the dot pitch for the shadow mask was really really small.
I still use... (Score:2)
Commodore 1702 (Score:3, Informative)
Now I only use it for the C64 but it's still working. The shielding is awful though - I have a 17" SVGA monitor right next to it, and as long as the 1702 is on, the screen on the other is all wavy.
Wow!!! (Score:2)
Can't beat Sun or SGI (Score:2, Interesting)
Get a good,used monitor (Score:2)
Even though it's well over ten years old, it's still a better monitor than most of my friends have on their machines.
Since it is very well built, both mechanically and electronically (I took it
Commodore 64 Monitors! (Plus others) (Score:3, Informative)
Also, if you're in Canada - check out the occasional government surplus auctions. They're always selling these amazing old monitors for practically nothing. A couple of years back I picked up this behemoth 23 inch monitor that must have been a decade old. Still worked and was great for gaming. $45 bucks. When the brightness started to go, I managed to find a 21" Dell branded Trinitron knock off (or some kind of flatscreen) for $100.
Also, a buddy of mine ripped the monitor out of an old broken Mac Classic - one of those little black and white 9 inch monitors and incorporated it into some art project he did. It and 7 other monitors ripped free of their housings are arranged in some weird gothic metal looking statue thing. It's outfitted with cheap motion sensors and low quality video cameras and will display all kinds of weirdness based on what's going on around it.
Hey... (Score:2)
If so, WYSE WY-60 (doesn't have its year of manufacture on the back plate) and an old Toshiba T-1200 laptop with its monochrome (blue on grey) LCD are the oldest displays I use regularly.
I too have a Sun-Branded Sony monster that outweighs any "modern" monitor... Sad part is these things outperform them all too.
PLUS its a flat CRT
Sony Trinitrons last forever (Score:4, Interesting)
I still routinely use an ancient Apple (Sony trinitron) 13in color monitor, yeah the ancient one that only does 640x480. I plug it into my OS X headless server whenever I need to do maintenance directly instead of by remote. That monitor has to be 15 years old minimum.
Re:Acer (Score:2)
Wouldn't that be 'manually'?