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Tablet PC's in Bright Sunlight? 37

chadma asks: "I'm developing a program to be used on a Tablet PC; the unit will be used outdoors >80% of the time. I've seen some tablets from ViewSonic and MotionComputing and wondered if anyone had any experience or suggestions in the best screen for high sunlight conditions. Has there been any study or anyone with experience that could suggest the colors we use in the design? Would a white background with black text be most appropriate?"
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Tablet PC's in Bright Sunlight?

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  • The Brightest Color (Score:5, Informative)

    by DynaSoar ( 714234 ) on Tuesday January 27, 2004 @05:21AM (#8097961) Journal
    chadma sez: "Would a white background with black text be most appropriate?"

    You'll get the higest contrast with the brightest and darkest color. Black is, of course, the darkest. The brightest is that slightly chartruse yellow you see on some emergency vehicles and safety gear. It's the brightest because it stimulates the most receptors in the eye (the maximum overlap between the red receptors and green receptors). For the same reason, it'd also be the most efficient for a given visual level.

    Higher contrast is harder on the eyes, but you'll be fighting sunlight so the contrast of the screen will be relatively much less than that of the environment.

    To keep the glare from the screen down, wear polarized sun glasses You might even be abloe to combine them with a polarizing filter on the screen to make it more visible while the environment appears darker.
  • Trans-Reflective (Score:2, Informative)

    by !the!bad!fish! ( 704825 ) on Tuesday January 27, 2004 @05:25AM (#8097970) Homepage
    Look for a trans-reflective display.
    These work best in bright sunlight, although can appear washed out in dim indoor use.
  • Places to ask... (Score:4, Informative)

    by dmayle ( 200765 ) on Tuesday January 27, 2004 @06:24AM (#8098097) Homepage Journal
    A much better place to ask this question would be the forums over at Tablet PC Buzz. [tabletpcbuzz.com] It's a great forum for Tablet PCs, and almost all of the people there own one, so you'll get a better representation from them...
  • Advice from a user (Score:5, Informative)

    by JackAsh ( 80274 ) on Tuesday January 27, 2004 @09:30AM (#8098733)
    I have an actual Tablet PC that I use every day, the Acer C110. It's a wonderful tool, but it is not designed for use in the sunlight. Heck, it's not even that good when I sit at a conference room with bright lights above the center of the table - sitting at the edge of the table looking down on a horizontal reflective screen reflects the lights overhead... However, I have the ability to prop up my screen with my old PDA, which solves the issue quite nicely. The angle is just enough to avoid the lights. :)

    The TabletPC is a wonderful tool. I wouldn't give mine up for anything in the world. Well, maybe something with a greater monetary value that I really wanted, as I would then go and buy myself another TabletPC - they're not in short supply. ;) Anyway, this is not your best forum for TabletPC advice. I suggest you try heading over to TabletPCBuzz [tabletpcbuzz.com] and use the forums there, you will find a TON of experts on the TabletPC.

    Regardless of that, there's really a couple solutions:

    a) If your application is a commercial app, designed to be run by just about anyone that chooses to purchase it, I'd suggest creating a "skins" menu for it, similar to the option within Franklin Covey's [franklincovey.com] tabletplanner 3.0. This will allow your outdoor mostly users to pick a high contrast scheme, whereas the indoor users (or users who avoid using it until they are indoors) will pick a different one. Heck, even allow some form of button mapping to different schemes, mapped by default to your presets that test best under different conditions.

    b) If you're targeting a vertical market and intend to design the whole solution, start to finish, I recall someone designed a TabletPC designed specifically for use outdoors. You could work that particular model into your design specs, and test your app out with the PC in question and the best looking/working colors, etc.

    I apologize, as I do no recall what the specific model or maker was - I suggest you ask your question in the general forums at TabletPCBuzz [tabletpcbuzz.com]. They will be able to provide you with further information.

    Best of luck,

    -Jack Ash
  • by DynaSoar ( 714234 ) on Tuesday January 27, 2004 @11:22AM (#8099831) Journal
    The Mayor (6048) sez: "I see a few issues with this advice...But the eye is most sensitive to green."

    The eye IS most sensitive (ie. has lowest threshhold to fire) to green. There are more green receptors or the green receptors are more sensitive than the red, and definitely more so than the blue.

    But yellow (slightly to the green side) is the brightest apparent color, because of the overlap of red and green cones. It sounds like it contradicts what you said, but it doesn't. Yellow can be from yellow (wavelength) photons that stimulate either red or green cones, or from a mix of red and green photons stimulating those cones. Either way, it's a more efficient process because more receptors are available for stimulation.

    Look at it this way: What color becomes closest to white (ie lightest grey) when the color is turned all the way down to plain black-and-white (like the color control on a TV)? Green is definitely grey, yellow is lighter, most like white.

    And he sez: "From my experience, the polarization of LCD monitors is usually at a 45 degree angle to the polarization of most sunglasses."

    Excellent. I didn't know that they had polarized output. Doing a polarization mod and others not being able to see it, now that sounds like a cool hack.
  • by holland_g ( 651151 ) on Tuesday January 27, 2004 @11:56AM (#8100192) Homepage
    I work in the general aviation market. Whenever you put LCDs in the cockpit, you have to consider sunlight and take the appropriate steps to enhance the LCD and backlight.


    For LCD viewing in sunlight conditions, you want to have a brightness of at least 150 foot Lamberts. Generally the CCFTs will degrade over time, so derate that by 50 foot Lamberts. You are looking at a spec of 200 foot Lamberts in your backlight brightness. Not common in off the shelf laptops.


    The contrast ratio needs to be greater than 200:1. The higher the better.


    You also want Anti Reflective coating applied to the front of the LCD. This causes reflections in the screen to be diffused and blurry, instead of sharp and clear.

  • Re:Monochrome LCD (Score:2, Informative)

    by WillAdams ( 45638 ) on Tuesday January 27, 2004 @01:24PM (#8101348) Homepage
    Unfortunately, as you point out, no one is making a TabletPC w/ a monochrome display --- actually, I think the TabletPC specification _requires_ a colour display. It'd be great for outdoor viewability though, as you point out and battery life too. You can pick up Fujitsy Stylistic 1200s w/ outdoor viewable monochrome displays pretty cheaply though. It's a pen tablet computer though, not a ``Tablet PC''.

    That said, there's been some great work done on making daylight-viewable displays for the newer TabletPCs, Fujitsu has them as an option for their Stylistic systems, and www.infocater.com offers an optional upgrade w/ the Motion (possibly other) systems which they sell for a special glass screen replacement &c. for daylight viewable displays.

    I don't think a high-contrast colour scheme is going to help much though --- either your display backlight and filter is able to display decently in daylight or it's not.

    William
  • Re:Monochrome LCD (Score:3, Informative)

    by Cecil ( 37810 ) on Tuesday January 27, 2004 @03:09PM (#8102722) Homepage
    My ~$140 CDN GameBoy Advance SP can do this, in full color. Turn off the backlight under good lighting and there is no difference at all. I often have trouble determining whether the backlight is on or off, in fact.

    The screen is not the best screen in the universe, but it uses an LCD technology called 'transflective' or 'trans-reflective' display which combines the reflective backplane used in older LCD displays (think digital watch) with a backlight. Color saturation is somewhat lessened in direct sunlight, but that's life.

    This technology is becoming more common in Tablet PCs, but is still in the very experimental stage in laptops. I have seen a grand total of two laptops with transflective screens. They were moderately priced and otherwise pretty much indistinguishable from the rest of the laptops on display. I don't remember the model number, but it was a Toshiba of some sort. They stood out like a sore thumb though because the screen looked so much brighter and glossier than the other laptops.
  • by smatthew ( 41563 ) on Tuesday January 27, 2004 @03:49PM (#8103205) Homepage
    Motion computing makes a version of the M1300 tablet pc that uses a transflective display. That display works wonders outdoors. Call them up at 866-MTablet and ask about it. I've got the normal version of the table (writing this post on it right now) and LOVE IT!!! Only think i wish i could get was ink-enabled AIM. That would rock.

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