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Unusual Linux Desktops? 89

sparrow_hawk asks: "I'm doing a presentation on Linux, sort of a basic education about what exactly it is and isn't. One of the points I'm trying to hammer home is the idea that Linux can look and act pretty much however you want it to. I'd like to know what's the most unusual Linux desktop you've seen, preferably with screenshots -- the one that looks like the helm of an alien spaceship, or the one that mimics a 50's radio?"
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  • by Praedon ( 707326 ) on Monday February 16, 2004 @10:56PM (#8300946) Journal
    That was the most unusual desktop I have ever seen for a Linux Operating System...
  • by AvitarX ( 172628 ) <me@brandywinehund r e d .org> on Monday February 16, 2004 @11:11PM (#8301078) Journal
    Themes.org has tons of stuff that may be of use to you.

    As far as looks go.

    If you want funtionality differences some of the themes for KDE work (the B3 decoration in kde changes the way title bars look (only as wide as the title itself and can be dragged by holding shift. This allows for tabbing windows across the top). Then there is the button setting (I wish I knew what this was called, but I am at work and cannot check) where you can give it a marble theme. Or an SGI theme, or many others. It may be worth looking around for impressive Win and Mac clones, but the ones I have seen are obviously different even as a casual Mac user (I have spent 20 minutes on OSX and the aqua themes are lame) Most obvious difference is the buttons are on the right of the Window frame.

    For serious functional differences scrap KDE and Gnome and go with some strait up window managers. I had one called WM2 that only allowed you to open Xterms (that you could launch apps from) and move windows and kill windows (no nice close of them, that was the apps job). Enlightenment is pretty cool. And quite unique. The one where you drage the clip around is popular, but I don't even know what it is. After step is kinda neat to look at, but probably shows it's age. Black Box (and probably Flux Box) can look really cool, but are minimalistic, and deffernt then windows and may work good.

    Themes.org has Black/flux Box, KDE, and Gnome themes (if memmory serves) with screenshots. There are probably better theme sights with higher standards too (themes.org has some half done work).

    Hope this helps.

    PS.
    just using standard KDE/GNOME with unique panel layout can be a good example.

    I used to do an auto hide foot in the corner (for that really big one pixel start menu)with a clock always on top in the center bottum and a task bar somewhere I forget where, I switched to KDE and it wasn't flexible enough to do it for me. I was able to maximize my apps to fullscreen and the always on top stuff was stratigically placed to avoid key spots so it was not in the way. It adds about 5% to your usable screen.

    PPS. The taskbar was across the top of the screen from 1/3 of the way (letting me see window titles) to about an inch and a half from the right edge (letting me use the frame buttuns if a window was maximized).

    next to the clock I also had a few icon buttons and drawers for stuff I really liked.

  • Re:themes.org (Score:3, Interesting)

    by MikeCapone ( 693319 ) <[moc.oohay] [ta] [llehretleks]> on Monday February 16, 2004 @11:13PM (#8301095) Homepage Journal
    Ive been most impressed by the 'other' WMs though, the little guys. Some of the Fluxbox or icewm 'minimalist' desktops are cool.

    My favourite, the one that I use at home, is XFce [xfce.org].

    It's about as fast and small as fluxbox, but looks better and has a few features that I can't live without anymore (ie. switching between virtual desktops with the mouse wheel, from anywhere in the background.)
  • by Moderator ( 189749 ) * on Monday February 16, 2004 @11:39PM (#8301278)
    I've seen some pretty unusual Windows desktops at Customize.org [customize.org] which use third party applications to replace everything from the Windows shell to system fonts. There's a handy little utility called Resource Hacker [on.net] which lets you edit Windows executable files, allowing almost infinite customization. Some of the finer results of using Resource Hacker can be seen in the tutorials here [virtualplastic.net].

    As for the UNIX desktop front, everything these days seems to want to copy the better points of the MacOS and Windows. A notable exception is XFCE [xfce.org] which is a Gtk2/Gnomed clone of CDE. If you wanna see some odd attempts at user interfaces, I urge you to check out some of the others [plig.org] at http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ (yes the site still exists and is actually fairly recent). I honestly believe this site is a MUST READ for anyone that is going to use UNIX on the desktop).
  • Ion (Score:5, Interesting)

    by EvilMal ( 562717 ) on Monday February 16, 2004 @11:49PM (#8301365)
    I use a window manager called Ion [modeemi.fi]. The interface is divided up into frames instead of windows. The frames can be split and resized, and apps can be dragged from one frame to another.

    Well, I think it's kinda cool, anyway.
  • Enlightenment v0.13 (Score:5, Interesting)

    by hitchhacker ( 122525 ) on Tuesday February 17, 2004 @12:00AM (#8301442) Homepage
    Everyone remember the old enlightenment versions?

    screenshot1 [swipnet.se]
    screenshot2 [virtadpt.net]
    screenshot3 [kleinplanet.de]

    -metric
  • by jonadab ( 583620 ) on Tuesday February 17, 2004 @12:04AM (#8301483) Homepage Journal

    Here's one of mine [lib.oh.us], which demonstrates an unusual accessibility requirement (the soft tertiary colors -- my eyes are unusally sensitive to light; I CANNOT handle Evil Blinding Backgrounds or high contrast). It also demonstrates the left side panel full of launchers, drawers, and applets that I've grown to love. The only things on the bottom panel are the task list and the clock. If it matters, this is a Mandrake 9.2 system with Gnome (but I replaced Metacity with Sawfish (because I want features, darnit) and replaced Nautilus with nothing (because I do all my file management from the command line)). The top drawer (with the drawer icon) holds the foot menu and launchers for assorted utilities and configuration things. The next drawer down, the one with the gnome-terminal icon, holds launchers for gnome-terminal (with various terminal classes and commands -- e.g., one for MySQL, one that does ssh into the cgi server, one that does ssh into the router, and so on). The drawer below that holds launchers for browsers. Then you've got three launchers right on the panel because I use them a lot: OO, Gimp, Emacs. Below the blank space is the screenshot button, the run button, a drawer of audio stuff, a drawer of games, the show desktop button (which really I ought to remove; I never use it), the CPU, memory, and swap meters, and the log out button at the bottom, out of the way. (Does anyone else think the Gnome1 logout icon looked nicer, or is that just me?)

    That Mozilla window has been open for some while; the first two tabs in particular have been open for a couple of weeks. This is typical.

    One of the Emacs windows has eshell, which is running a telnet connection to the im2 multiplexer for the Perlmonks.org chatterbox. Another is Gnus. The third has open the Changes file for Net::Server::POP3, which is what I really ought to be working on instead of posting to slashdot.

    Be sure to get a screenshot showing gdmflexiserver running with the Xnest option. That's a really cool feature. For bonus points, have a different desktop environment running inside the Xnest window than the one running outside it. Also try to get a shot from someone who uses ratpoison; there's no window manager more minimalist than that, especially when it comes to window decorations. Be certain to show off several interesting panel applets, especially if you can get one running in a tiny always-on-top panel. Get one showing something really cool being worked on in Gimp, too. And be sure to get an Enlightenment screenshot showing that weird dragbar thing about halfway up/down the screen. I don't personally like that, but it's innovative and different, and some people swear by it.

  • I run FVWM 1.24 (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Tony Hammitt ( 73675 ) on Tuesday February 17, 2004 @12:22AM (#8301602)
    No, really. Every day, at work and at home. It's far faster than any "desktop" (it's just a window manager) and I like the insane amount of customizability. I've been using FVWM since 1993, (MIPS-based DEC workstations) even before I started using Linux.

    My friends think I'm nuts but I really like it. If I need a readable terminal with 800 columns, no problem, I can just scroll over to the next desktop area while resizing the window. I have a button for raise/lower the current window right where the old windoze icon on my keyboard used to be. I can use the mouse wheel to change the volume on xmms by catching M4 and M5 buttons (i.e. the scroll wheel events) on the root window, which is very handy for headphones and downloaded MP3s.

    It's about the most customizable thing ever written, and it's all in about 900K of pure Xlib, so I just compile it and run it anywhere I go.

    If you want, I can send you some screenshots, just reply. I figure it's about as weird a GUI as you'll see.
  • by josepha48 ( 13953 ) on Tuesday February 17, 2004 @12:34AM (#8301712) Journal
    Mine is opera. That is it. I have configured the framebuffer device and start it with X & export DISPLAY=:0 ; opera.

    That's the desktop. Nothing else but a web surfing station. Kinda like a browser terminal. This allows me to have a device with only 64 Megs of RAM and run a web browser that I can check email and my favorit sites. It allows for useing plugins and viewing video in the browser window. Oh when opera starts hit F11 key and it will go to full screen mode. I see this as the future of desktops. Simple to use.

  • Re:Ion (Score:3, Interesting)

    by jhoger ( 519683 ) on Tuesday February 17, 2004 @12:35AM (#8301713) Homepage
    Yeah I use Ion 2 on a daily basis. Now that you can use the floating wm for difficult apps, I never have to leave Ion.

    I liked Ratpoison too.

    Still I'd try something that's really different... say a desktop that was actually a visually programmable shell with ways of connecting up objects representing command line tools like grep, and cat and loops and variables.. (don't care about 3d).

    But for just getting work done, Ion or Ratpoison have simplified things for an old keyboard user like myself.
  • WindowMaker (Score:4, Interesting)

    by MarcQuadra ( 129430 ) * on Tuesday February 17, 2004 @01:32AM (#8302048)
    Alright, I'm aiming for you now.

    Windowmaker, while it mimics NestSTEP, is a GREAT WM. I've NEVER had so little trouble as when I've run WindowMaker.

    I think that WindowMaker is at the opposite end of the spectrum of Win32 systems, it's a dock-based system with no integrated file manager or desktop. It's like OS X without Finder, it's just there to MANGE WINDOWS.

    I personally use WindowMaker, Mozilla, rxvt, xmms, OpenOffice, and GAIM, that's all. All the tools I need besides that run in the rxvt terminal. I've got 7 virtual desktops:

    one for 'communication'
    two for browsing
    two for 'projects'
    one for a root shell
    one for household finances

    xmms is omnipresent, it's ij the background of all desktops. GAIM too when I feel social.
  • by enigmatichmachine ( 214829 ) <enigmaticmachine@NosPaM.yahoo.com> on Tuesday February 17, 2004 @05:03AM (#8302822)
    nice, i especially like that last picture, when i clicked the link, it sent me to PARIS HILTON SEX VIDEO!!!!!!!!!! CLICK HERE!!!!!!!!
    either you've a funny sense of humor or you've been hacked(cracked?).
  • Re:themes.org (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mystran ( 545374 ) on Tuesday February 17, 2004 @02:35PM (#8306967)
    Indeed, the "other" WMs.. yeah, try grabbing a screenshot of wmx [all-day-breakfast.com] or evilwm [sourceforge.net] and you should get something that looks unusual, even in the bash prompt when you ls -lh :)

    Both are perfectly usable, small, and almost without any runtime configuration. Still, those are my top-2 of window managers. If I did a top-3 list, then Ion [cs.tut.fi] would be the third I think.

  • by josepha48 ( 13953 ) on Wednesday February 18, 2004 @07:12PM (#8321055) Journal
    What's really cool is that opera and X fit into under 64 Megs of ram very nicely. Mozilla doesn't, Firefox may. Opera also gives better web browsing experience than links -g, as opera can support plugins and has better javascript support. So it actually gives a decent web browsing experience. Also when you go into full screen mode, if you have the 'free downloadable version of oprera' there are no adds because there is no place for them ;-).

    Now if I can only get my wireless card working under Linux, it will be a really nice mobile web surfing pad.

  • Re:careful (Score:3, Interesting)

    by SeanAhern ( 25764 ) on Thursday February 19, 2004 @09:36PM (#8335018) Journal
    While some people abhor choice, the vast majority want it.

    Go into MacDonalds and find twenty different kinds of hamburgers, plus chicken and fish sandwiches. Odds are they'll have a specialty sandwich for the month. A far far cry from the John Belushi "cheeseburger cheeseburger pespi" world. Restaurants have dozens of selections. Even those that cater to the non-geek.


    Interesting that you would choose McDonald's as an example. I don't have the reference right now, but McDonald's actually found that people were getting confused by all their selections. Once they started making "prepackaged" meals (combo meal #1, #2, etc.), their sales went up 20%.

    People like choice, in theory. They like the idea that they could do anything they want. But when it comes right down to brass tacks, 99% of people just want to get work done and really don't want to tweak lots of settings. In the usability world, it's a mantra that a very large proportion of people never change the defaults of any application.

    Choice, indeed.

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