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Would You Move to Space? 145

garyebickford asks: "Slashdot discussions on the SpaceShipOne flight talked about whether folks would take the flight if offered. It reminded me of a question that used to go around. If you were offered the opportunity to move permanently into space - perhaps an orbital environment, or asteroid (mining?) or another planet, etc. - and you had an 80% chance of living five years, would you take it? What if your chances were 50%?"
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Would You Move to Space?

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  • by aleonard ( 468340 ) on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @01:47AM (#9503641)
    80% chance of living for five years, and reaping the tremendous bounty of mining an asteroid? I might just take up that offer. It'd be a hell of a ride, whether or not I make it alive.

    Also, just imagine the view every morning when you wake up. Every. Single. Morning. I'd risk my life for that, yes.

    It'd be nice to live free for once.
  • Perhaps (Score:3, Insightful)

    by dtfinch ( 661405 ) * on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @01:58AM (#9503686) Journal
    Being a college nerd with poor social skills, I'm tempted to say yes to just about anything if there was a good chance of getting laid with a healthy member of the opposite sex. But I'm sure I'd regret it as I die in the vacuum of space. So no, I probably wouldn't even under such ideal conditions as I've only imagined but were not mentioned as perks.
  • Yes. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by feidaykin ( 158035 ) on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:06AM (#9503732) Journal
    and you had an 80% chance of living five years, would you take it? What if your chances were 50%?

    Yes and yes. Those aren't great odds but the odds of being safe inside a automobile aren't great either... I'd rather die doing something that no humans have ever done...

    Kind of reminds of what someone much wiser than myself said on a similar subject here. [slashdot.org]

  • by Wetware ( 599523 ) <(ase) (at) (english-in-america.com)> on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:35AM (#9503940)
    Yes and yes, in a heartbeat. Now, I don't think so. Maybe if the children were grown up. I would have to check with the boss though...
  • by DAldredge ( 2353 ) <SlashdotEmail@GMail.Com> on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:04AM (#9504113) Journal
    Or you could wait a few years till others work out the bugs, then enjoy years alive in space. Nothing that only lasts 60 seconds is worth dying for.
  • No, but (Score:4, Insightful)

    by bmac ( 51623 ) on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:13AM (#9504166) Journal
    it would probably make me happy if
    *you* did. And take your friends, too!
    I mean, really, earth would be a great
    place if it wasn't for the people.

    On a more serious note, though, until
    we can travel at the speed-of-thought
    and *then* find a suitable earth-like
    planet, I'd rather we spent our time
    trying to fix our damaged ecological
    and societal systems.

    Peace & Blessings,
    bmac
  • by warm sushi ( 168223 ) on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:19AM (#9504208)

    Not that I know the actual stats, but 80% survival rate over 5 years sounds pretty good. What was the survival rate of the early European-American colonists? Accounting for disease, starvation, being stabbed by someone or eaten by something - would it be better than 80%? Probably not.

    So hell yes. I'd go. Anyone with a sense of adventure and courage would go (or in Australia's case, anyone with a criminal record).

    The rewards are potentially massive (better than a tiny farm plot which is all the early colonists got) and the experience?! To have your name recorded as one of the first to colonise off-earth! Immortality is yours! Go and take it!

    I don't think anyone could argue that a shortage of highly motivated and suitable volunteers would be a problem. Rather, the real problem is getting us all up there. At 80% or 50% or even 10%.

    I'm ready now.

  • Re:Kum-by-ya. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @03:31AM (#9504270)
    You greatly misunderstand the basics of human nature. Certainly pain, distrust, and conflict are responsible for much of our current technological development, but there is also the matter of insatiable curiosity. Unless you can block the sky from view, man will always look up at the twinkling stars, wondering what they are.

    We want to go there. It isn't a pressure away from Earth, it's a pull to the unknown.
  • by turgid ( 580780 ) on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @05:31AM (#9504822) Journal
    When you're young, life is long, and quite often boring, and any excitement is welcome.

    I'd love to go into space, but I don't see why it has to be risky, or why we should accept high risks in a gung-ho fasion. There is plenty of intelligent and advanced engineering that can be done to minimise risk. I realise that people do dangerous things like mountaineering for sport and for fun, but that's not my cup of tea.

    As I get older, and become more aware of the limited time available for life, I realise that there's lots to do. Anyone can put their body into space, alive or dead, for short periods of time. What I'm saying is there is more to most people than a physical presence.

    I can imagine getting very bored with being in space, cooped up in a tiny craft for any length of time. Many of us don't appreciate the importance to our well-being and sanity of being in the natural environment which we've evolved to be in. Could you imagine being in a tin can for years breathing recycled air, having nothing to eat but a small selection of plants and freeze-dried food? What about experiencing day and night, wind, tide, rain, hearing bird song, the fragrance of flowers and freshly cut grass or a good chicken jalfrezi? What about the company of friends and family? What about gravity? Wouldn't you get bored with floating about all the time and not being able to walk?

    I'd love to go into space, for a week or two, in a safe, reliable and comfortable craft. Some people have that gung-ho spirit and would throw their lives and well-being away for a few minutes of experience that one day will be as common as walking down the street. Whatever floats your boat.

    Personally, I'd prefer a more considered and rational approach, but heck, I'm rapidly becoming and old git.

  • by AlecC ( 512609 ) <aleccawley@gmail.com> on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @05:35AM (#9504842)
    Five years is a long time. What is the quality of like like, and what am I achieving while I am there?

    Five years sitting inside a small capsule just to prove it can be done - forget it.

    Five years in a moderately cramped environment with good communications, building part of a real space station, participiting in the escape from Earth - you're on.

    While danger is not irrelevant, the cause, the goal, is much more relevant. People have taken huge risks for a cause they believe in - and lost, not infrequently. I believe in trying to ensure that humanity is not limited by the finite resources of the Earth. I want humans to inherit the stars. I am prepared to risk quite a lot of danger, and quite a lot of discomfort, in that goal. But not infinite danger, and not infinite discomfot.

    So - give me a worthwhile job to do, and I'll sign up.
  • Armageddon (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Vincman ( 584156 ) <vincent.vanwylick@gmail . c om> on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @07:16AM (#9505207) Homepage
    Incidentally, probably the only thing the movie Armageddon [imdb.com] has to contribute to society, is the answer to this question. The typical person who would most likely take on an assignment in space, like drilling into an astroid or setting up base there, would have to have little ties like family, be very well paid (at those odds) and more than slightly suicidal. This is not a scientist's (or nerd's) type of job. It involves following instructions to the letter (like: drill here) and very hard and continuous manual labour. After that part is done, people can start to think about *living* in space, at far better odds.
  • morning (Score:2, Insightful)

    by dpilot ( 134227 ) on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @07:25AM (#9505235) Homepage Journal
    Depends on the asteroid's spin. There might even be a morning every hour. Too fast a spin might make working an asteroid impractical. (Coriolis, effective surface gravity, dizziness, etc.)
  • by gl4ss ( 559668 ) on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @11:55AM (#9507933) Homepage Journal
    the problem with this proposal is exactly that.. every single goddamn morning - same view - same chores - doing jobs that mission control on earth schedules for you - excitement? sure it would be nice to be the first person on mars, but doing the same thing for every day-cycle for 5 years, without connection to real people, without holidays, without alcohol, without tobacco, without fresh porn, without football, without (most)hobbies.

    sad thing is, it would be boring in reality. after a while it would be hard to stay even sane for most people...

    and 'free'???????? free in a tin can not being able to decide where you even go? that's free? damn, I must be the most free person on earth then.

    If you want freelancing free sail the seven seas type of free life you're better off staying on earth for now.
  • Re:Kum-by-ya. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by reallocate ( 142797 ) on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @12:55PM (#9508785)
    >>"What if there was peace, love and understanding on the Earth, so we wouldn't feel the pressure to leave?"

    We are what we are; we will take our problems with us. People imagine that some magic ideology and some kind of all-knowing government will change things, but that's a fantasy.
  • Re:Absolutely... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by raider_red ( 156642 ) on Wednesday June 23, 2004 @02:29PM (#9510049) Journal
    Just remember that wherever you are, your odds of survival are ultimately 0.

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