Live CD for PPC? 45
An anonymous reader writes "After reading this article, I was pretty excited about trying an Ubuntu live CD on my Mac, because I've heard a lot about the distro. But it turns out the only live CD is for x86. Looking around for PPC live CD's that support modern hardware (like a G5) and demo modern versions of KDE and Gnome has proven fruitless so far. Does Slashdot know of any current projects that have released or are working on releasing a nice PPC live CD?"
Gentoo (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Gentoo (Score:4, Informative)
A G5 machines 9 fans running full speed is easily louder than most vacuum cleaners.
So, G5 owners, I wouldn't suggest.
Re:Gentoo (Score:2)
Re:Gentoo (Score:2)
I don't understand how come my post is +5 informative either.
If any g5 owners out there, to experience the evil sound, just run "apple hardware test" from os x came with your machine
Re:Gentoo (Score:1)
Construct your own (Score:5, Informative)
I do this at school here because all the computers the kids have are the same... so I just get a perfectly working system on mine, and then create a liveCD from it for the other computers. It makes data recovery in the user support center a sinch.
And a live CD for gentoo PPC is in the works. Should be out with the 2004.4 version release.
The Gentoo PPC live CD is already out (Score:2)
Re:Construct your own (Score:1)
gentoo boots into a nice Xwindows environment which i assume you don't care to customise... otherwise you'd make your system dual boot anyway...
and actually one of the nicests includes i found was that Airsnort is on the liveCD as well, making it easier for me to locate wireless networks when i'm on the move. i know there are some Mac alternati
Re:Construct your own (Score:1)
I find that since the Apple drivers come, basically, from one little sector of the market, their drivers are decently written and easy to setup. That's not the case with some x86 wifi cards
I enjoy a nice copy of knoppix which comes with Kismet, Airsnort and other great little programs like that. It makes war driving simple.
Re:Construct your own (Score:2)
while(1) { fork(); };
I laugh at your puny linear growth!
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Re:Construct your own (Score:2)
Re:Construct your own (Score:1)
Re:Construct your own (Score:2)
But it doesn't look as cool with all those silly letters in there
Mac Live CD's (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd. php
Then, by sorting on the right most column and scrolling down to PowerPC I found 3 PPC Live distributions:
A. Knoppix PPC
http://debian.tu-bs.de/knoppix/powerPC/
B. Knoppix-MiB
http://www.bouissou.net/knoppix-mib/d oc-html/Knopp ix-Mib.html
http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/k-mi b-ppc/ - somewhat active mail archives for MiB
C. Gentoo LiveCD
http://www.gentoo.org
http://www.metadist ribution.org/gentoo/experimenta l/2004.0/32bit/livecd/kde-gnome/ - location of the ISO I used
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=132 301 - the discussion that told me where to get it and good tips on getting it working
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewforum.php?f= 24 - the full Gentoo PPC forum
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-ppc-faq
A. Knoppix PPC - Nothing much seems to be going on with 'A'.
B. Knoppix-MiB - I had previously tried 'B' and while it worked ok on my iMac, I was looking for something for my iBook that I could bring to Linux meetings. At one time this version also worked on my iBook, but it no longer does - I don't know why. Apple has had several software releases since I last used it including one major one which made patches to Open Firmware. Others have also reported problems with the alpha 2e Knoppix full version - particularly on iBooks. Knoppix MiB has not released any further full versions but have released some Xtest versions designed to resolve these issues and get their autoconfiguration process tested. I tested the latest of these (pre10) and they are on the right track as my iBook gets further along in the process and no longer crashes and shuts off. Update 3/11 - their latest Xtest version is now pre12 which I am downloading today.
C. Gentoo LiveCD - The problem with Gentoo in the past was that it really never worked very well as a GUI Live CD before - was primarily an installer. Now, however, they do have an experimental version which is apparently designed to be a more full blown GUI Live CD ala Knoppix. It is not yet very autoconfiguring for the GUI and this is what was giving me some problems until I saw some helpful comments at a Gentoo PPC forum. Following are the details that finally got the GUI going.
1. Download the G3G4 ISO
http://www.metadistribution.org/gentoo/experime nta l/2004.0/32bit/livecd/kde-gnome/g3g4.iso dated 11-Feb-2004 (664M)
2. Boot the CD by holding down the 'c' key while restarting.
3. When asked use 'root' as the user with no password
4. Once the kernel is up, type ' Xeasyconf ' - note upper case 'X'
-Let Xeasyconf attempt to figure out your settings
-My iBook has an ATI RageM3 video but the ATI Rage choice did not work for the iBook - it almost did, had problems with Horizontal sync.
-Use the Framebuffer choice for the iBook. Use the autoconfigured settings for everything else.
5. At this point typing startx brings up a black screen with 3 working Xwindows terminal windows and Xclock
6. Instead of doing step 5, type ' nano
- If you prefer KDE, edit out the comment symbol (#) in 2 places and use 'kdm' and 'kde-3.2.0'
- Save the changes
7. - To get a LAN working assuming a dhcp network
- for ethernet - type 'dhcpcd eth0'
- for airport - type 'dhcpcd eth1'
8. Type ' startx '
9. To end and restart in OSX type 'shutdown -r now'
The Gentoo environment is very Mac like and smooth looking. The kde environment has more tools. Some apps work, some dont
Re:Mac Live CD's (Score:1)
Re:Mac Live CD's (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Mac Live CD's (Score:1)
Ubuntu straight-to-disk worked fine for me.. (Score:4, Informative)
linux+OSX, easy as pie. But maybe I skipped the "LiveCD"-ness of it?
can't say i like the debian'ness, but its nice to have linux on PPC, and have it be at least as smooth an install as OSX is
Re:Ubuntu straight-to-disk worked fine for me.. (Score:2, Insightful)
I went looking too, a few weeks ago, and never had much luck.
Boot CD (Score:5, Informative)
Takes about 10 minutes to boot depending on the speed of the machine but it's a great way to diagnose machines if you don't have a spare firewire drive laying around.
Re:Boot CD (Score:1)
Optimaly, I'd have one DVD image for every mac. I have Powerbooks, G5s and G4s to deal with, so having one ima
Re:Boot CD (Score:3, Informative)
Makes it nice and relatively quick when you're re-imaging hundreds of different models of older Macs.
Re:Boot CD (Score:2)
And the poster next to mine is half correct. Sometimes OS X specific CD's ship with macs, but the the machine specific part is only in the OS loader for the cd ie, if you run the installer's off the cd through the installer app instead of booting of the cd, you're fine.
Re:Boot CD (Score:1)
Unintentional puns are the best (Score:5, Funny)
I wonder if he even knew the pun he was making.
Re:Unintentional puns are the best (Score:1)
In the next series of releases, they switched to 'flavors' like 'Graphite'.
I believe some poeple were bitter about this.
BA-DOOM-CHING!!!
Gentoo Torrents (Score:3, Informative)
http://tracker.netdomination.org [netdomination.org]
Debian sarge (Score:3, Informative)
There is a Live CD net install for Debian sarge ("testing"). It uses the new installer and is very nice. I have it as a dual-boot on my PowerBook.
Debian net installer page [debian.org]
netinst is not a live cd (Score:1)
When talking about a live distro I assume you do not have to write on your hard disk in anyway to acces the full power of that distribution.
On the other hand a netinst image is designed to let you run just the installer and little else so hardly qualify to be a live cd.
I am really looking forward a live distribution fully compatible with debian (knoppix has a lot of issues if you try to apt-
Blue G3 with SCSI (Score:2)
NETBSD (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:NetBSD (Score:1)
Is there even a NetBSD/x86 live CD? The only references I've seen were a 1.5.x version.
LWN have a PowerPC distribution summary up today (Score:1, Informative)
http://lwn.net/Articles/108720/
It's subscriber-only content this week but should be available to all next week (I think...)
CRUX PPC (Score:1, Informative)
Anybody tried CRUX PPC [sunsite.dk]?
It is small and neat. BSD like /etc/rc.d scripts.
The ISO disk is only about 280Mbyte
Rock Linux (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.rocklinux.org/powerpc.html [rocklinux.org]
with a Live CD for PPC here
http://www.rocklinux.org/149.html [rocklinux.org]
Regards, Walter.
Has Gentoo changed? (Score:3, Insightful)
Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse (Score:1)