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Why Don't PDAs and Cellphones Use USB? 145

evolutionaryLawyer asks: "I have a RazrV3 phone and the charging interface is USB. This means if my cell phone is dying I get to pull a USB cable out of my bag, plug it into my laptop and charge it wherever I am, and at the same time data transfer is possible. This got me to thinking, why do all these cellphones, PDAs, and other devices use funky data and power interfaces when USB 2.0 is capable of providing both data and power in a universal format? I cannot think it is to sell cables, because I am sure they lose a lot of that to 3rd parties, not to mention that it has to be more expensive to design and manufacture these proprietary formats. Look at the PSP, it has both a power port, and a USB 2.0 port. Why shouldn't they cut out one?" While such a question is better asked of the cell phone manufacturers, it is unlikely that the average consumer would be able to get a straight answer. Can you think of plausible reasons as to why companies might be bypassing usable standards for their own proprietary cables, especially given the fact that there are third-party cables out there for just about every make and model of PDA or cellphone?
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Why Don't PDAs and Cellphones Use USB?

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  • by Vaevictis666 ( 680137 ) on Thursday April 07, 2005 @05:20PM (#12169797)
    On the other hand, it can't be that hard (and possibly would be another income source) selling little boxes that plug into the wall and provide 1 or 2 USB ports just for power transfer...
  • Assured Power Supply (Score:3, Interesting)

    by rueger ( 210566 ) * on Thursday April 07, 2005 @05:52PM (#12170173) Homepage
    Probably the biggest reason why cel phone makers etc use their own cables, at least the wall wart for charging, is to ensure that the power coming into the phone is exactly right.

    By supplying a proprietary charger they can know that you won't accidentally damage the phone.

    I've never checked, but I'd wager that the power on a USB port can have a lot of variation, especially if you're using a cheapo $6.99 USB hub from Big Lots [biglots.com].
  • by invisik ( 227250 ) * on Thursday April 07, 2005 @06:29PM (#12170470) Homepage
    Hey,

    Not even a cradle on the 7100 series. Uses a regular USB cable (rectangular plug to the micro plug). Same cable I use to connect to my Sony digital camera. It syncs and charges over it. Even the wall charger is a USB cable with a transformer on the end. It is quite nice to charge off the computer this way.

    I do wish it had a cradle, as the plugging and unplugging is a little annoying (the plug is on the left side of the unit). Great for portability though.

    -m
  • by NevarMore ( 248971 ) on Thursday April 07, 2005 @06:56PM (#12170746) Homepage Journal
    Excepting cellphones, most devices I see use a readily available round power connector. The transformer is clearly marked with the polarity and electricial info. One can just measure the size and hit up any electronics supplier and find a matching connector.

    I can also see it as protection, if you can physically connect up a USB-power only cable to something that isnt expecting power on its USB port then someone will do so and destroy it.
  • by mschaffer ( 97223 ) * on Thursday April 07, 2005 @08:40PM (#12171605)
    I have a cable for my Treo 650 that will allow it to charge via USB. This is both a cell phone and a PDA. This is also, by no means, the only cell phone or PDA that can be changed via USB. You just need to get the right cable.

    I would not want to wait to charge my Treo via USB, though. It takes forever! I forget what wattage the USB port is limited to, but it's far less than the real charger for my Treo.

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