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What Are Your Favorite Computing Memories? 230

aussersterne asks: "Every now and then while reading Slashdot comments, I realize that most people have no idea that -the network was the computer- for decades before Amazon.com and Google ever appeared, taking for granted the rather boring state of commodity computing that dominates the marketplace today. Unix and dial-up shell users remember bang-paths, 110 baud BBSing, 'luggable' computers, UUCP, DC600 OS media, VT100s connected to dumb terminals, and 1152x900 8-bit color web browsing before most PC users had even shelled out for their first copy of Windows 3.x and the free 'serial mouse' it included. Middle-aged geeks, what are your favorite recollections from from the '80s and '90s computing, network, and hardware world, as full of platforms and innovation as it was? Which computer system is still 'your baby' all these years later? Anybody still have a running Sun2? A running FHL UniQuad? Anybody still use KA9Q?"
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What Are Your Favorite Computing Memories?

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  • Woof, Woof! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by dave-tx ( 684169 ) * <df19808+slashdot@nOspaM.gmail.com> on Thursday July 21, 2005 @02:32PM (#13127106)
    Fidonet! [wikipedia.org] And to a lesser extent, the Fido and Opus BBS software.

    I thought this was a very clever way to propagate messages between BBS's. I guess I graduated from Fidonet to Usenet around 1990...if one considers that graduating, and not simply moving in to The Project.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 21, 2005 @02:35PM (#13127140)
    Joystick ports, bang paths and gender changers. Ah, the fading of youth :).

    ~~~

  • PDP-10 (Score:3, Interesting)

    by klossner ( 733867 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @02:36PM (#13127159)
    (The VT100 was a slightly smart terminal. You connected it to a computer, not to a dumb terminal.)

    We middle-aged geeks go back earlier than the '80s and '90s. My baby was the PDP-10 running TOPS-10, then TENEX, and occasionally ITS. My first gonzo gaming experience was playing Zork on a 300 baud hardcopy terminal in California connected through a local TIP to MIT. Still a hard game to top.

  • Discovering the BBS (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Dolly_Llama ( 267016 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @02:37PM (#13127173) Homepage
    This is entirely age dependendent I suppose, but the great Eureka moment for me was discovering the BBS circa 1990 from a friend, then on my own figuring out how to connect.

    This might not seem like much, but it was my first independent project with a PC and I was 13.

    btw, that first bbs was "Saimin" in Hawaii, and I to this day I still use the same handle.
  • 3 letters (Score:3, Interesting)

    by honold ( 152273 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @02:37PM (#13127181)
    BBS. i may never have as much fun with computers as i did back then.
  • by Txiasaeia ( 581598 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @02:42PM (#13127241)
    ...was my happiest computer moment. One megabyte took 77 minutes to download. My second-happiest moment was after I had bought MegaTraveller 1 for the PC, took it home, and discovered it required a hard drive. My Tandy 1000 (8088, 4MHz, 640k RAM, 2x5.25 LD drives) didn't have a hard drive, so through trial and error I had to put the required files on four floppy disks and insert them at appropriate moments (disk 1 to start up, disk 2 for the first four planet systems, disk 3 when I enter the spaceport, disk 4 for the last four planet systems). Getting around that hard drive problem was absolutely thrilling for me.
  • Ah, the memories... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Mad_Rain ( 674268 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @02:45PM (#13127279) Journal
    First - rewriting a bit of code from a BASIC program, written in a magazine, for my Commodore64, so I could change the way a ball bounces on a screen. Really simple, and I haven't improved much, but damn if it wasn't cool at the time. :)

    Second - The numerous times I had to format and reformat the hard disk (a 40 MB drive! w00t!) and write and rewrite the config.sys and autoexec.bat after I crashed or did something bad to the family's 386.

    Third - Getting a 486, and tweaking those config.sys files to run Ultima VII. Installing a SoundBlaster card in there and hearing Wing Commander speak to me. :)

    Fourth - Setting up my own BBS (TAG anybody?) and getting online.

    Getting to college in '95, pirating Windows and pwning n00bs in Doom (and later Counter-Strike).

    The year 2000 - started using Linux. Yay!
  • by Pengo ( 28814 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @02:45PM (#13127281) Journal

    Yup, I remember the first time I realized there was other people that where as fanatical about communicating with others as I was. The world of BBS opened up my eyes to shareware and other tools that I had no idea existed as well.

    Door games anyone?

    The local Eau Claire, WI BBSUG was a bunch of old Hams. I made friends that I will remember for the rest of my life through that community.

    The BBS community played a large role in to decide that computer programming and networking was definately where I wanted to be as I got older, and I can say with confidence that the BBS world changed who I am today to a large scale what I am doing and have been able to achieve.

    I look back on those BBS years with the fondest memories of learning and exploration.

  • Tandy 286 (Score:2, Interesting)

    by fwice ( 841569 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @02:49PM (#13127327)
    1989. I was four. My father brought home a new tandy running deskmate. The tandy had this moderately functional drawing program that seems like a really antiquated version of mspaint. So, after using the program for a while, my father tells me to get off the computer and find my older brother so he can use it. in my typical four year old sense, i just start calling for him from where i was at the computer. unbeknownst to me, my father was recording me on the tandy with a microphone. boy, did i get a kick out of hearing myself on the computer.

    i still have that wav file. and i still listen to it now, 16 years later.

    and i still have that tandy. it went through a ton, and still works. my brother used to do his finances on taxes on it all the way up through his 2nd year in college(~2000). after that, i pretty much turned it into a dedicated machine for playing civilization, since it would run on the tandy wonderfully.

    maybe i'll go dust it off this afternoon :]
  • by torpor ( 458 ) <ibisum.gmail@com> on Thursday July 21, 2005 @02:53PM (#13127389) Homepage Journal
    .. as I unpacked it for the first time from its happy foam box, plugged it into the telly, and proceeded to clik-clik away on its beautiful little chiclet keys. oh, how i love that oric-1 [old-computers.com], even still today.. trips back home to the family wouldn't be the same without a quick crank of the treasurebox in the attic, a "10 PING; ZAP; SHOOT; EXPLODE; GOTO 10" or two ..

    #2: Then, a few years later, the same smell (only much, much, much more intense) when I unpacked my first MIPS Magnum [wikipedia.org] pizzabox, placed it on my desk, watched it boot, and prepared to port my code to it .. oh my, how the raw power of me, professional C programmer, felt that day.

    #3: Booting Yggdrasil-Linux on my ol' 386 about 2 years after the Magnum experience .. [linuxjournal.com]


    #4: booting new hardware i had a small hand in developing for the first time [virus.info].
  • by Undertaker43017 ( 586306 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @03:02PM (#13127484)
    I used to work for a company that forgot to include their computer room air handlers when they spec'd their generator load, so whenever we had a power failure it was a mad dash to the computer room to shut the VAX's down before they "fired".

    I was reminded of this years later, when working for a different company, I walked in one day and the doors to the computer room were wide open! One of the mainframe system guys saw me and literally went white, he said "Oh... we had an air handler failure and forgot to call you. I hope the HP's are OK" I said well they should be, I checked them out, sure enough they had sensed the high temperature and shut themselves down (of course it did expose that my alerting system was not working correctly, in all situations). The mainframe had not faired as well, not sure what they fired, but it was expensive, as I remember. ;)
  • Re:EDO (Score:2, Interesting)

    by lanswitch ( 705539 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @03:04PM (#13127507)
    i must be getting old... my first memory of memory was that on my trusty old zx81. the 16k memory expansion module never sat good in its socket, so the poor thing would reboot whenever i smashed the keys too hard, or when i moved it too wildly while playing defender (or some game like that, at my age the memory fades quickly).
  • A Passage to India (Score:2, Interesting)

    by DisasterDoctor ( 775095 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @03:05PM (#13127531)
    Typing in the program from a magazine for 'A Passage to India' on my Commodore 64 and then spending endless hours playing it with my dad.
  • Definitely BBSing (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Momoru ( 837801 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @03:06PM (#13127537) Homepage Journal
    BBSing and IRC...how i spent my high school years.... some people's high school memories are track and football, mine are mostly Legend of the Red Dragon and DalNet. Oh and maybe playing Syndicate, that game gives me good summer memories.
  • Re:Woof, Woof! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Salus Victus ( 801649 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @03:07PM (#13127559) Homepage
    Put me down for Fidonet, too. It was the first thing I thought of while reading the base post.

    A friend of mine ran a Fidonet node, and I remember being so completely impressed with automated, scheduled dialing between nodes to transfer batched messages. What a great concept!

    Farther back (and not related to networking) ... disk drives used to be a high-powered upgrade on personal computers. I remember the days of the Apple computer, where system calls (including printing) were handled by a vector table. I was blown away when I found out the Apple DOS installed itself on a machine by replacing the original "print" system call vector with a pointer to the disk operating system! (Apple DOS looked for ^D as a flag character, and intercepted anything following the ^D as a disk command: ^DLOAD, ^DSAVE, etc.)
  • PC in Hollywood (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Sundroid ( 777083 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @03:52PM (#13128159) Homepage
    And I don't mean "political correctness" either. In the early 80s when I started out in Tinseltown, I was fortunate enough to work for a boss who was into computers, and we got the state-of-the-art Apple IIe!!! People like actress Kim Cattral (a youngster then) would widen her eyes with admiration as she passed by my desk.

    I myself spent $300 on an NBC portable computer (PC-8201A) with a whopping, get this, 16k built-in memory. Not 16 gig, not 16 meg, but 16k! I actually wrote 2 screenplays with that beauty. I'd write six or seven pages and the memory would be full, then I had to download the pages to a cassette tape as a backup memory.

    Flash forward, now in 2005, I'm writing on my blog (http://sunandfun.blogspot.com/ [blogspot.com]) about Hollywood and the state of cinema, without ever having to worry about running out of memory.
  • by schon ( 31600 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @04:18PM (#13128563)
    I remember when I got my first modem for me C64 - a 300 baud manual-dial manual-answer... I visited a number of local BBS'es before stumbling upon one running Color-64... the first time I saw the login screen in /color/, I thought I was in heaven.

    It wasn't long before I bought a 1200 bps (which was blazing fast at the time) and started my own BBS.
  • USENET/email (Score:2, Interesting)

    by marcus ( 1916 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @04:19PM (#13128578) Journal
    Sitting in the basement at Rice University ~1983 sometime after midnight communicating in near real-time with a professional astronomer in Australia.

    Very cool.

  • by wed128 ( 722152 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @04:28PM (#13128706)
    Prodigy...Ah yes. Played plenty of that slow ass 3d maze game on 1200 baud myself. That and the National Geographic page. The early nineties were a fun time.
  • by TopShelf ( 92521 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @04:32PM (#13128758) Homepage Journal
    It all started for me in 2nd grade, when our teacher (good ole Mr. Cunningham) would bring in his TRS-80 and let kids play with the computer, based on their in-class performance. If you did well on a test or quiz, you got a sticker which could be turned in for computer time, which was a real novelty at the time (1979).

    One day, he had us type in a BASIC program out of a magazine (BYTE? Softside? can't recall) to display a digital clock on the screen - each kid would do a couple lines, then the next would take his turn as class continued on. When it came to my turn, I just kept on trucking, and the teacher didn't say anything. We broke for recess, and after coming back in, I went straight to the computer and kept chugging away, as the teacher resumed class. Once I finished the program, I tried to RUN it, but there were typo's which then proceeded to fix using the line editor (I had seen Mr. C do this before), until I got the thing working. It was probably one of the best school days I ever had, and it was all thanks to his "letting the line out" and giving me the room to explore.

    At the next parent/teacher conference he told my parents about the experience, and that he hadn't seen a kid that age with that level of focus to finish and debug the program for such a long time (boy, has that changed over the years). My grandmother got me a computer for Xmas that year (Atari 400), and things pretty much changed forever from that point forward. It was a pivotal moment for me, and I'll always have to give credit to a great teacher (public school, btw) for providing that opportunity.
  • by sootman ( 158191 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @04:43PM (#13128885) Homepage Journal
    I used to hit every Apple ][ in the lab with
    10 flash
    20 print " (40 spaces) "
    30 goto 20

    For those that don't know, flash:basic::blink:netscape. Basically, it made every screen in the lab (a dozen computers arranged in a 'u' so you could see them all at once) alternate between all black and all white at about 1Hz... and all out of sync, of course.

    One of many favorite memories. Another was making the computers nonfunctional. To simulate a prompt that actually does nothing:
    10 input "]"a$
    20 print
    30 goto 10

    result: would print
    ]_ (cursor)
    take whatever input they wanted
    print a blank line
    and draw another prompt. until you say 'run' and nothing happens, you won't know it's ignoring you. :-) (No, I never cost anyone hours of work this way. Most people would do an output-producing command pretty quick, then control-C would kill the fake prompt.)
  • 664 BLOCKS FREE (Score:2, Interesting)

    by starakurva ( 453545 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @05:03PM (#13129175)
    Yeah, I was a C-64 twerpo as well, and as I load up my emulator to play Castle Wolfenstein, I am flooded with fond memories of things like:

    Say-It S.A.M, and using it to make crank phone calls

    Using ML Monitor to make a blue box tone program

    and, something I think every c-64 user has been through, taking 6 hours to try to download Jumpman Jr. or similar game, and dealing with those "bad blocks", watching the dashes and colons, only to have Grandma unplug the computer as it's ALMOST done (i.e 2 more hours to go!) so she can run the vacuum cleaner.

    GGRRRAAANNNNMMAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

    How about ALTOS/ALTGER/QSD? Or multi-padding on an pwned Prime :) :) :)

    Jeez, if I let myself, I could fill up a whole megabyte with my nostalgia....Phone Man 4.0 anyone?

    OK one more....I ran a CCGMS, and was proud to boast that, with the aid of 8 C-1541 drives, I could boast 1.5 megs of G-Files. Best thing was when I went to sleep, all the LED's made my room look like a little city as seen from a helicopter at night. ...OK, I'm off to get a bowl of Croonchy Stars..
  • Brightest memory (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 21, 2005 @05:50PM (#13129665)
    I have lots of wonderful though mundane memories, from running a BBS and Fido node, to my first graphical OS interface. But I have one memory that really stands out.

    After 10 years in MIS, I was on a new job and had been tasked with upgrading a Netware server from 3.x to 3.x+1. I had been told to fly out and get the job done before the end of the week but, I told my boss that I thought I could have it done that afternoon.

    I sat in my cube, used rconsole, mapped some drives and upgraded the server, even though it was on another continent, using the install floppies that had been copied to another server in a different town all together. It was all over rather quickly but, afterwards I thought about what I had just done and the technology to make it all possible and I litterally shuddered in awe.

    Today, this is all old hat. It's so common that regular clueless users do similar stuff without even knowing what they are doing but, to me, at the time it was awe inspiring. That's what I remember best, the awe of it all. The shudder, I can almost feel it.

    In retrospect, I should have flown out and taken a few days off at the companies expense. Oh well, live and learn.
  • Once upon a time (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anna Merikin ( 529843 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @06:44PM (#13130109) Journal
    I wanted to write a novel, so, having learned from friends what PCs could be made to do (automatic repagination, easy spellcheck and search-and-replace) I bought a used IBM XT2 (8086, 8MHz) with an upgraded 20-Mb hard disk and CGA graphics for less than a thou.

    First thing I did was install WordPerfect-5.1 (brand new at the time) and mock up a novel-sized document. I then scrolled to the end. I would have sworn it had frozen had the green disk-in-use light not been blinking steadily. I waited for several minutes for it to get to the end (300 pages) and, impatient, left the stopwatch running on the desk next to the puter, went out to dinner, came back hours later only to find the disk access light still flickering regularly.

    Round about midnight, the light's rhythm had changed dramatically, blinking more brightly but less often, and then, WHAM, before my eyes, the last line of the mockup test text appeared!

    Lo and behold, it took a little more than six hours to scroll to the end of a 75-thousand word text.

    I was hooked on making a faster PC right then.

    PS: I am using a fairly modern PC to write this: a Duron 750 with a exactly a thousand times as much RAM (640 Mb) which should be enough for word processing, being ten thousand or so time as fast as the XT2 was, but using the outline feature in Abiword-2.2.x installed on Feather and loaded completely into RAM brings the PC's CPU to its knees, making me wait for updates and scrolling slowly and unevenly, even though there is no swap space being used.

    Makes you think, doesn't it?
  • Re:ah, memories... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Chemical Serenity ( 1324 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @06:46PM (#13130124) Homepage Journal
    Heh, okay, okay...

    I used to hang out in this IRC channel. There was some girl I was trying to get with was and she was interested in it, so I will honestly say I was just in there to kill some time and see if I could get some play. THAT one turned out to be a spoiled little bratchild that needed to be kicked to the curb, but it just so happened my future wife was in the same channel. This was about the same time that netscape first came on the scene... gopher was still the search tool of choice, and Twinsock over windows 3.1 was the standard way of getting online for most peeps. She was plagued by a bad connection and surly tech support from her university, so I would help her out with problems.

    We became friends. Nothing more though, as she lived in Nova Scotia and I was in Vancouver... and that's the way it stayed for a couple years. We talked regularly in between her studying for her masters in English.

    Now, a small cadre of us became regulars in this channel, but 95% of us were from the west coast. My future wife was about the only one who was out east... so she got on a plane and came out to Vancouver (ostensibly to check out schools to finish her post-graduate studies, but mostly just to come party with some online friends). I had the use of a car and was relatively near by the airport, so I was tasked with a collection of 'virtual hugs' I was supposed to give her from a bunch of the other channel denizens when I met her. I had a list written down with "hugs from: xxxxx yyyyyy zzzzzz" ... and by the time we got through that list of hugs, we both knew that something more was going to happen, and pretty quick. ;)

    So, she just came out west and sorta... stayed. We've lived happily ever after, our 10th 'anniversary' is this labour day (although we only got married 2 years ago). A few years back I moved with her and the kids back out to Nova Scotia, as all her family is out here.

    The End. Romantic in a highly geeky way, huh? ;)
  • by omibus ( 116064 ) on Thursday July 21, 2005 @06:46PM (#13130128) Homepage Journal
    Oh ya, that first time we got Doom2 loaded on 2 computers, and connected them via a Null Serial cable.

    Hmmmmmm
  • There are so many... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by stungod ( 137601 ) <scott AT globalspynetwork DOT com> on Thursday July 21, 2005 @06:57PM (#13130214) Journal
    pivotal moments in my geek life:

    - Dad getting a pocket calculator and a digital watch in the same year - both with LED displays.

    - The two-part episode of The Bionic Woman where she had to go through the deadly obstacle course to defeat the evil computer...behold the power of technology!

    - Dad was a high school teacher and got to bring home a Commodore PET during the summer for us kids to play with. CLOAD, baby!

    -Spending 4 hours typing some huge BASIC program into the PET out of Byte magazine, 1 finger at a time, losing it once due to power glitch, retyping it the next day, another 3 hours correcting typos, and then finding out that the version of BASIC on the PET wasn't the same as the one used for the program. This is especially frustrating to a 12-year-old with ADD...I had never concentrated so much on a single task. And then to find out the time was all wasted...a good preparation for an adult career in IT.

    - Getting an Apple //e with 2 drives and a green monitor.

    - Learning how to copy games and other protected disks with nibble copying and other nefarious things.

    - Beagle Brothers!!! My God, those guys were the best. I learned all my reverse engineering skills from them. A close second was the TMH disks for Apple II's. They were better for graphics stuff, but weren't as clear in how they worked.

    - Dialing in to a college mainframe with my friend's Atari 400 and a modem you put the handset into.

    - Getting kicked outof my HS computer class because I knew how to program and use computers and the teacher did not. (And they were teaching LOGO! Come On!!)

    - In my first attempt at social engineering, gaining access to the store manager's account on 's mainframe, creating my own account, and giving people raises.

    - Using my first exploit to gain admin rights to an employer's Novell network and read the boss's email.

    There are others, but that's more than enough.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 21, 2005 @07:52PM (#13130601)
    Those were the days. A friend of mine got hold of three 486s and networked them with coax cable, and we played deathmatches for hours. It was then that I discovered the joys of camping-- we started playing one level, and I just ran to the room containing the exit, faced the door with a shotgun, and waited. He must have spent 20 minutes looking for me and cursing me because I was nowhere to be found. He finally gave up, headed to the level exit, and when he opened the door... BOOM! I killed his character, scared the shit out of him and damn near pissed my pants from laughing so hard.

    Ah, those were the days.
  • Re:Woof, Woof! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by ag0ny ( 59629 ) <javi@nOSpAM.lavandeira.net> on Thursday July 21, 2005 @10:05PM (#13131406) Homepage
    Indeed. I had a Fidonet node running at home for several years (LuzNET 2 BBS, 2:343/163). I was using FrontDoor + RemoteAccess, until I switched to OS/2 and replaced FrontDoor with MainDoor/2.

    I miss those days. Each sysop was responsible for the users posting from his BBS, so there was little trolling back then. The quality of the Fidonet message areas was very, very high: you knew people by their names, moderators did their jobs (or they were voted out).

    Unfortunately, I had to stop running the BBS when I moved out of my parents' home. That was when Internet was already taking over, so there wasn't so much activity as in the good days anymore. It went from 60-70 calls/day to around 20-30 and just around 50 active users.

    Now, with the Internet it is... well, different.
  • ARPANet (Score:4, Interesting)

    by GCP ( 122438 ) on Friday July 22, 2005 @12:14AM (#13132219)
    Those aren't old memories. [stroking my imaginary gray beard...] I forget how young Slashdotters tend to be.

    I fondly remember using the ARPANet as a young defense contractor before they let all you riff-raff in and renamed it the "Internet". In those days, it wasn't all about porn, science fiction, and demanding rights to download hip hop for free. It was about particle physics, science fiction, and demanding the right to use MACSYMA for free. Well, okay, there was ASCII porn.

    Ah, those were the days....

  • by dougmc ( 70836 ) <dougmc+slashdot@frenzied.us> on Friday July 22, 2005 @01:09AM (#13132563) Homepage
    One of the most memorable moments was when I was playing an online BBS game called Barons [riverbbs.net].

    Basically there was only two of us seriously playing on this BBS door game, and I had the upper hand for a while. But then suddenly I got locked out of the game (presumably due to some bug where I thought I was already playing or something, so it wouldn't let me in) and when I came back, the other guy was whomping on all of my sectors and I was getting my butt kicked.

    As I had previously expanded across the map, I'd take all my soldiers on to the next sector, and leave only one man in each square (so I could still `own' it.) Since I found that 50% taxation (use the money to buy mercenaries) and 0% draft worked best, this one man never grew into more. So I had half the map with only one man per square. But since my border towns had more, so it was basically hard on the outside and soft on the inside. I thought I was relatively safe.

    So, finally I get back in, and I'm reading how I've lost all these squares, square after square after square that the other guy took over. He had like 30,000 men in one army and he was mopping my squares up. But then suddenly there was a battle that I won. He came in with 30,000 men and I had one man. My one man killed his 30,000 men and had stopped his advance cold, since that was the bulk of his forces.

    After that, I sent him a ha ha! (in the Nelson style, but Nelson didn't exist yet) message, and then he sent me back a message about how he'd kill that man, and his family, and his family's family ... but by then, I was back to mopping up the map of this guy.

    Fun!

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