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Creating a Clever Home? 116

eKto1 asks: "We've recently purchased an older, dated home which we are in the process of gutting and restructuring. While there are no walls, we are obviously running the standard Cat5, and speaker cable to each and every room, however we would also like to modernize the house even more by making it intelligent, as in 'Smart'. I'd like to install touch screens in the majority of the rooms, to control things such as media (separate audio and video to each wall unit), lighting, temperature, etc. For those of you on Slashdot who have done this, what has your experience been? Are there guides for doing this easily and effectively, without having to sell the farm? Is there a way to allow distributed content to head units while keeping servers down to one or 2 units?"
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Creating a Clever Home?

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  • by Knights who say 'INT ( 708612 ) on Tuesday August 16, 2005 @04:09PM (#13333042) Journal
    Use the Coolest door ever [gizmodo.com].
  • Dumb Terminals (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Shads ( 4567 ) <shadusNO@SPAMshadus.org> on Tuesday August 16, 2005 @04:44PM (#13333409) Homepage Journal
    Using NX/VNC/etc type things to a terminal server should lower your cost substantially.
  • Re:CAT6e (Score:5, Interesting)

    by renehollan ( 138013 ) <[rhollan] [at] [clearwire.net]> on Tuesday August 16, 2005 @05:19PM (#13333827) Homepage Journal
    The general rule is to run 2xCAT5e (or Cat6) and 2xRG6/U coax (quad shielded) to every "drop" and home run back to a distribution panel. Each drop is terminated in a modular Leviton (or similar) wall plate module. You put a "drop" wherever you might want telephone, data, or TV. One can even get "Speedwrap" cable that combines the aforementioned cables (with and without 2xfiber as well) -- it adds a bit to the cost over individual cables but is easier and neater to pull.

    The reasoning is as follows:

    One Cat5e is for telephone (some PBXs do require all four pairs, though this is getting rarer). You don't need Cat5e for phone, but it's pennies over Cat3.

    One Cat5e is for 100 Mb/s ethernet. 'nuff said.

    One RG6/U is for RF (cable, local modulated channels, satellite, etc) to TVs.

    The other RG6/U cable is for a "back feed" from a local video source modulated on some TV channel that is not in use -- at the headend you can combine them with the incomming cable/satellite feed, and broadcast through the house.

    Anyway, that's the "recommendation". There are a few areas where it falls short, and a few other problem with it:

    1. Satellite feeds can require two coax cables to each drop (so, forget about the "backfeed"), if you have a multi-satellite dish: if you have a dual satellite tuner, and want to tune different polarizations on the same satellite, or different satellites, you need two cables (at least for DirecTV). Dish Network "stacks" the horizontal and vertical polarizations on one cable, but you still need two cables if you want to watch programs on two different satellites (or watch one and record the other). So, say goodbuy to your video backfeed unless you run extra coax.

    If you want to combine an OTA signal from a TV antenna (including OTA HD), you can diplex it onto and off of one of the satellite feeds, though a separate cable is better. It is generally a bad idea to try to duplex a cable feed with an internal satellite distribution network. So, add another RG6/u cable. That adds two extra coax cables (and quad-shielded ones are thick and somewhat inflexible), to each drop where you might have serious video equipment, i.e. anywhere you have a TV or computer that processes video, or video recording gear intended to archive programs. This will probably be the media/family room, computer room, and perhaps master bedroom. For good measure, you might want to add a second (or even third) such drop in such rooms, if you decide to move the furniture around. To racap: that's one Cat5e for telephone (your satellite and cable box or TiVo might need it), one Cat5e for data network (everything needs a data network port sooner or later), two coax for satellite, one for a backfeed, one for cable TV, and you can diplex the OTA signal on one of the satellite cables if you use both the backfeed and the cable feed.

    Other locations where there might be a TV (kitchen, bedrooms) can probably get by without the extra two coax cables.

    Next, consider the location of wired telephones. You want at least some wired telephones, that use a landline, at least one on each floor, that you can dial real 911 from. You probably want these locations at opposite ends of the room where the TV drops are, if any. Even if you go wireless for phones, you will probably want data network drops on the opposite end of the room to plug in your laptop, etc. Run 2xCat5e for phone and data.

    "But why not wireless phone and/or data or MythTV over the LAN (or wireless), or VoIP over the LAN (or wireless), etc. and avoid all that cable?" I hear you cry.

    Three reasons.

    1. Security.

    2. Bandwidth.

    3. Expense.

    You may have wireless phone (and VoIP, and data), to be sure, but keep it in the DMZ on your network. You definately want some real hardwired landline phones for emergencies. Wireless bandwidth is never going to be as good as what you can get on a wired network, and wired networks are easier to segment

  • Central Cooling! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by SharpFang ( 651121 ) on Tuesday August 16, 2005 @06:12PM (#13334304) Homepage Journal
    Put a water outlet/inlet by each socket, and a central cooling/pumping station outside. Install water cooling in each computer in the house, and have them quiet, fast and cool :D
  • by fred fleenblat ( 463628 ) on Tuesday August 16, 2005 @10:16PM (#13335963) Homepage
    While having lots of cables to run all kinds of signals everywhere is a really cool idea, don't forget that while you have the drywall off it's a really good time to think about efficiency. Heating oil could be really expensive in the near future and the electricity to run your a/c isn't exactly going to get cheaper. A clever house is one that doesn't waste energy.
    • insulate like crazy. additional stud thickness, vapor barrier, expanding foam around every box or hole in the wall, insulate the hot water pipes (and cold depending on climate), insulate an attached garage even
    • shorten the runs of ductwork as much as possible, avoid running them through uninsulated attic or basement space (i have this problem)
    • upgrade to high SEER a/c compressors and high rated burners. climate may indicate heat pump.
    • use electric dampers or a zone system to turn off HVAC to unused rooms. i have my zones on individual timer/thermostats.
    • whole house fans are pretty cheap and can save a lot of money on a/c. swamp coolers are kind of white trash but work okay in some areas.
    • not sure about attic fans. usually if you have good attic insulation and gable vents and soffet vents you're fine, but if you have a large uninsulated attic with a lot of floor area in contact with living space it might help
    • thermo pane windows! not just double glazed, but the kind with an e-coating to cut down IR transmission through the glass, and no wood frames, they warp and leak within 3 years.
    • awnings don't last very long, but roof-like overhangs over south-facing windows are a good alternative.
    • find a good location for a wireless outdoor thermometer so you can monitor temperature and humidity well enough to intelligently choose whether to use the whole house fan/attic fan/swamp cooler/heat pump or a/c that day. or just leave the windows open if it's going to be 70 that day.
    • swap out electric range, oven, water heater, dryer, for natural gas or propane. swap out electric heat (baseboard or cental) for whatever fuel is cheapest in your area.

    Next thing to do in the cleverness front is to actively protect the house. Some of this will indeed involve wiring:

    • central-station monitored alarm and sensors on all doors and windows, don't forget fire and smoke alarms (county inspector probably won't let you for get the last two)
    • if it's an unoccupied cabin/second house you'll also want flooding and freeze alarms
    • outdoor lighting. maybe the automatic IR sensor kind, maybe plain old switch kind.
    • go crazy and wire up some video cameras. these can feed into a server so you can check what's going on around the house even when you're away.
    • actual deadbolts with reinforced doors and frames on all doors. double cylinder if next to a window or window-in-the foor but for gosh sakes let everyone know where the key is.
    • 2 or more fire extinguishers on every floor (near the exits)
    • evacuation plan (esp for kids) very important if you have any rooms that require more than one turn to reach an external door. doors to wooden patios don't count! and rope ladders for 2nd floor bedrooms

    Anyway, I just want to express that there is more to a smart house than just internet and audio/video.

  • Re:Conduit (Score:2, Interesting)

    by BiAthlon ( 91360 ) on Tuesday August 16, 2005 @10:23PM (#13336012)
    That's kind of funny. In Chicago (which has one of the most strict electric and fire codes) you are REQUIRED to run all wires in conduit.

    Maybe they need to fire your building inspector.
  • by ibbey ( 27873 ) * on Wednesday August 17, 2005 @01:25AM (#13336797) Homepage
    Gotta say I agree with the others on this... A socket every 16" is ridiculous. Think about it-- you're right that I have more devices then outlets in my office, but most of the devices are concentrated in two locations-- my desk & entertainment center. Why would I want to drag cords all over the room when a carefully placed power strip does the job even better (and adds surge suppression to boot)?

    But where you are correct is that you do want more outlets then are usually provided. My dream room would have one outlet every 64 inches in most walls and one every 48 inches in areas where I expect to need more. Normally, no wall should have fewer then two outlets. Cat 5 (or 6) & cable should be available in opposite corners of each room where it makes sense.

    And here's one that I haven't seen anyone else mention... At least one power outlet in each closet in the house. You may consider adding cat5 in the closet of your office as well. Handy for servers, but make sure it's well ventilated.

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