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The New Air Force Mission? 444

mvnicosia asks: "The US Air Force has released its new mission statement, which reads 'The mission of the United States Air Force is to deliver sovereign options for the defense of the United States of America and its global interests -- to fly and fight in Air, Space, and Cyberspace.' With the recent rows over US Internet governance, what do you think is the impact of a US government overtly practicing cyberspace warfare? And what are the US's legal limitations?"
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The New Air Force Mission?

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  • My guess (Score:3, Insightful)

    by bwd ( 936324 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @09:33AM (#14218552) Homepage
    My guess is that if the U.S. government felt a threat was so grave that it would resort "cyberwarfare" as well as conventional warfare (knowing the consequences), then I think we'd all have a more serious problem than just worrying about internet governance.

    Just like anything, the U.S. has the power to abuse it. But I feel, as with many others, that the U.S. is less likely to abuse it due to its economic reliance upon it. The U.S. would only resort to "cyberwarfar" as one of the last resorts, it would seem.
  • Read It Differenty (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Comatose51 ( 687974 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @09:35AM (#14218570) Homepage
    "'The mission of the United States Air Force is to deliver sovereign options for the defense of the United States of America and its global interests -- to fly and fight in Air, Space, and Cyberspace.' "

    You could be worried about it but if you read it more narrowly and in context, it's not that scary. The USAF will fight in space, air, and cyberspace as it relates to warfare. Given how dependent the US miliary and other militaries are on information, it's reasonable to expect them to practice techniques for attacking and defend networks. Put it another way, while the air force practices gaining air superiority, we rarely ever see them go around downing civilian aircraft in times of peace (though there have been mistakes). Just because they're developing the ability it doesn't mean they're going to recklessly use it on everyone. The military needs to be prepared for things that might happen.

  • by BiloxiGeek ( 872377 ) * on Friday December 09, 2005 @09:35AM (#14218571)
    After spending 22 years wearing the USAF uniform I think I can be confident in saying that the new mission statement has been looked over and discussed by many General officers, public affairs officers and lawyers both civilian and blue-suiters. They don't often post public statements like that without knowing exactly what ramifications might pop up.
  • Legal limitations (Score:4, Insightful)

    by theonetruekeebler ( 60888 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @09:36AM (#14218573) Homepage Journal
    And what are the US's legal limitations

    Bluntly speaking, the US's legal limitations are whatever it decides they are.

    AFAICT there are no international treaties about cybercrime and information warfare---except those involving copyrights. The U.S. seems happy to prosecute or cause to be prosecuted anybody who is electonically inconvenient to U.S. companies.

  • Lest we forget (Score:3, Insightful)

    by $RANDOMLUSER ( 804576 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @09:38AM (#14218591)
    The different branches of the U.S. military spend far more time competing with each other for budgetary dollars than against foriegn powers. Witness the Air Force vs the Navy for fighter plane designs. This new mission statement is from the Secrtary of the Air Force and the Air Force Chief of Staff - no higher. I'm guessing it represents a turf grab on the part of the Air Force - cyberspace is ours!
  • Legal limitations? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Big Nothing ( 229456 ) <tord.stromdal@gmail.com> on Friday December 09, 2005 @09:38AM (#14218594)
    "what are the US's legal limitations?"

    Maybe I'm being a troll here (mod me down if you wish), but the current administration has pretty much made it clear that any "legal limitations" that may have previously existed are now void.

  • *sigh* (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Guppy06 ( 410832 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @09:42AM (#14218631)
    "the United States of America and its global interests"

    Once upon a time those two were considered mutuall exclusive.
  • Re:My guess (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Savage-Rabbit ( 308260 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @09:46AM (#14218663)
    Just like anything, the U.S. has the power to abuse it. But I feel, as with many others, that the U.S. is less likely to abuse it due to its economic reliance upon it. The U.S. would only resort to "cyberwarfar" as one of the last resorts, it would seem.

    The road to debacle is littered with examples of politicians of all nationalities acting without thinking. In view of the fact that US politicians seem to have had a partickularly virulent spate of acting without thinking recently and doing so on a grander scale than politicians of most other nationalities have done during the same period I would not get my hopes up about US leaders resorting to Cyberwarfare only as a last resort. They might resort to it to resolve quite trivial disputes, you only have to take a look at some of the frightening bills that have been voted on (and sometimes passed) in the US national assembly over the years to realize this.
  • The Answer.... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by RITMaloney ( 928883 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @09:52AM (#14218718)
    Well what do you consider cyber warfare? Shutting down the whole internet? Or simply attacking an ISP or military network in a hostile country? Or even more simply launching a Denial of Service attack against a terrorist propaganda website? (This is likely to be going on soon if not already).

    And where do you draw the line between POLICE ACTION on the internet and CYBERWARFARE? Is monitoring internet traffic for terrorist communications a POLICE ACTION or CYBERWAREFARE? What if you more from passive to active, by sending fake messages to suspected terrorist?

    My guess... the US is already there and we're not the only ones in the game.

  • by Shivetya ( 243324 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @09:56AM (#14218761) Homepage Journal
    Cyberspace is ours, let the Army, Navy, and Marines sit and spin.

    Justifcation of one's budget usually means jumping the gun and laying ownership claims quickly. Expressing it in your mission statement is one good way of doing it. Now the other branches will have to figure out how to keep the Air Force from getting the sole control of that arena.

    In other words, we want money and here is our justification, after all Cyberspace is so big and scary!
  • by ianscot ( 591483 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @10:04AM (#14218817)
    The Joint Doctrine for Space Operations [dtic.mil] spells out a ton of the (declassified, anyway) options for conducting warfare in outer space.

    Kind of interesting that the document starts with a rationale based on the Iraqis having tried to jam GPS during Gulf War II -- "adversaries will target space capabilities" -- and then quickly moves on to a "We've got to be ready to do that to our opponents" stance that's openly aggressive.

    Lots of interesting details in there. A sidebar says over 80% of US military satellite communications during GW II used commercial satellites.

    Page 49 of the 63 has a scant paragraph about legal considerations. Basically the M.O. is "check with a judge advocate to make sure it's okay."

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 09, 2005 @10:07AM (#14218831)
    Anyone who fails to see the strategic military, economic and other importance of comm nets is ... naive.

    A key asset in our comms capability orbits in space: the constellations of comms satellites, along with GPS and other capabilities (including visual surveillance / reconaissance). Those satellites were put there by USAF in most cases and they retain operational responsibility for many of the military ones.

    As far as the announcement goes (and Euro response) well ... Europe has been deliberately trying to undercut US standards, pressuring the UK (for instance) to adopt equipment incompatible with ours. This USAF statement just acknowledges that the EU intentionally is positioning its countries, technology and policies in opposition to the US ... indeed, in many cases in stupid, blind kneejerk opposition.

    So be it. We aren't about to roll over and curl into a sobbing heap in response. If we need to go it alone to defend ourselves and those who are allied with us, that's just what we'll do.

    Oh and snide boy above? You might be rather surprised at the depth of skill in the infowar ranks. Cyberwarfare has already been tested against us in a variety of probing attacks .. anybody remember the Red Lion attack in March 03? It wasn't the first and it certainly hasn't been the last.
  • Re:The Answer.... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Kadin2048 ( 468275 ) <slashdot.kadin@xox y . net> on Friday December 09, 2005 @10:13AM (#14218900) Homepage Journal
    I think that the USAF tossed in "cyber warfare" into their mission statement because it's a great way to get in at the ground level of something that they think might be big in the future, even though they're not really sure what it is. However, I think it's fair to say that some bunch of generals somewhere though that in the future, this might have a lot of money and responsibility associated with it, and maybe by putting it into their mission statement, they could corner the market.

    Frankly I think it's ridiculously outside of their mission. Cyberwarfare ought to be the domain of one of the intelligence agencies, since they're basically the ones with the signals interception, encryption, and intelligence analysis capabilities already. Neither the technical capabilities nor institutional culture of the Air Force really lend themselves to this mission.
  • by RobotRunAmok ( 595286 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @10:15AM (#14218925)
    The fact of the matter is that the USA did not become the world's only superpower by force -- quite the opposite, it got their by being a benevolent power that other countries trusted.

    What?!? Are you just, like, making up history as you go along?

    We became the world's only superpower by (1) building a giant friggin' arsenal, (2) training a ridiculously immense armed forces, and (3) developing a staggeringly robust economy to sustain both. The previous century's other superpower had (1) and (2), then fell short on (3). (I leave the debate re the efficacy of the respective economic systems to a different thread.)

    Now, China teeters on superpower-dom, if it can't be classified as one already. Is that because the Chinese have labored so hard at presenting a benevolent face to the world and building up other nations' trust? Obviously not.

    If you got to be a superpower by being nice, Iceland would rule the solar system. Or, at least their women would...
  • by RITMaloney ( 928883 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @10:29AM (#14219075)
    "US's legal limitations?"

    Traditional Geneva Conventions apply to air. There are few practical constraints here.

    There are separate treaties outlawing militarization of space. How prohibitive the treaties will be in practice is yet to be seen. Regardless the US will always act to defend itself, particularly in regards to its satellite system which is today's "high ground" that facilities military dominance. Certainly the US will deploy defensive systems to protect satellites. Whether it will deploy systems designed to disable enemy satellites is uncertain, but likely.

    There are no legal treaties explicitly controlling cyber wars. There may be some older international law that could be applied to this new arena. Such would be similar to the desire of some to apply the international laws allowing nations the right to attack and capture pirates to the current war on terrorism -treating terrorists as pirates. If legal scholars can see parallels here, they'll surely see them in cyber warfare.

    Today many would consider carpet bombing an entire city filled with civilians in an attempt to destroy a radar tower as a practical violation of the Geneva Conventions' rule against targeting civilians because the same tower could be destroyed with other means that would not endanger a whole city of noncombatants.

    Would targeting an entire ISP to take out one terrorist website be similar? If that ISP refused to take down the website, how careful does the US have to be if it chooses to electronically attack it? Can it wipe out the data on all the ISP's servers, thus affecting "noncombatant websites?" Or must it be more careful and try to affect only the enemy's website? Probably not because the collateral damage is not that serious... loss of a website, eh... he'll live.

    But what if the US is at war with an entire country, how careful must it be in attacking entire networks in that country? In that case, there may be some serious considerations. Taking out a major ISP may disrupt not only government and military networks of the enemy but also hospital networks or networks that control municipal water systems, etc, etc, which would knowingly endanger civilian lives and possibly affect third party nations. In war a country must differ to saving its citizen's lives over those of the enemy when it has no other options. So, I suppose the legal limitations are such that the US has to decided, what options it has that will likely defeat/incapacitate the enemy and then choose the ones that least endanger civilians (lives and property). Maybe it will be that cruise missiles are safer to civilians than a cyber war.

  • Re:The Answer.... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by CaymanIslandCarpedie ( 868408 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @10:44AM (#14219247) Journal
    I was thinking the same thing. It seems the NSA would probably be the ideal choice for this. I wonder if this is some legal issue. Does the NSA mandate allow for it to "wage war" or is it limited to inteligence/signals intercept/etc work? I'm really guessing here, but I think this may be more an issue of who's mandate allows some of the planned activities than who is most suited for the job.
  • by Peter La Casse ( 3992 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @10:46AM (#14219272)
    It's all about competing for budget dollars. If any government agency or group manages to expand its role, it gets more money. There's tons of inter-service political wrangling of this nature. Another example is the continued existence of the Marines due to their ability to invent new roles and missions for themselves (to the point where the Navy is forming a new group of land-fighting sailors to fill the role of small-m marines). Another example is how the Air Force doesn't want the Army to have any fixed wing combat aircraft (including drones, but they lost that fight) because they consider those budgets to be their "turf".
  • by datashepherd ( 937500 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @10:47AM (#14219281)

    On the contrary- when the US enters into a treaty, which ocurrs when the Senate ratifies it, the treaty has the same force as any other law in the United States. We are a nation of laws, and therefore, also a nation of treaties. Treaties do come with clauses allowing nations to leave the treaty if it is in their national security interests, but doing so must be done publically which has an international audience cost.

    I agree that many nations bend agreements when in their interests, but the best treaties are the ones that are well defined, fair, and most importantly, verifiable.

  • by Cyphertube ( 62291 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @10:52AM (#14219341) Homepage Journal

    Given that military members from various branches already work at NSA, having the Air Force expand its role to meet the obligations it already has isn't ridiculous.

    One of the big reasons to do this for the Air Force is because they are also generally given aerospace command, including satellites.

    This is not to say that other branches don't also have this, as the Navy just recently renamed its cryptology officers as information warfare officers, and has retasked and renamed the Naval Security Group. Many of the information systems locations are moving towards joint tasking anyway. With the vast experience in telecommunications, if the Air Force becomes the main branch for running these various ops, it won't change the fact that the Navy, Marines, and Army also have trained units for these tasks, too.

  • by rwa2 ( 4391 ) * on Friday December 09, 2005 @11:01AM (#14219438) Homepage Journal
    *** Disclaimer *** I work for a major defence contractor that sells Sats and stuff

    The Air Force had always launched and maintained most of the military communication satellites. These uplinks usually form the trunk of deployed military networks... after all, it wouldn't be too convenient for the Army to subscribe to the nearest middle east DSL line or for the Navy to spool thousands of miles worth of fiber behind a flotilla. So most of what the military considers the "network" is this wireless communications system, which needs to be heavily secured, defended, etc.

    One of the first things the Air Force is responsible for during an invasion is to take out the enemy's command and control infrastructure - destroying their radar, microwave tranceivers, satcomm, and other network and surveillance equipment. Whether this is done using bombs/missiles, jamming equipment, or perhaps some kind of network attack/exploit, I suppose you could agree that the latter modes could be less destructive and more subtle in terms of offering you counterintelligence options ("no, the invading force is actually over *here*". And the less infrastructure you physically destroy, the less you have to rebuild later, I guess.

    While some of this might be carried on over the internet, I imagine the vast majority would occur over isolated military intranets.

    I'd be pretty surprised if Air Force honeynets and botnets start duking it out with the supposed North Korean hacker army over the normal internet we know and love, playing a game of cat 'n' mouse over the tattered remains of a compromised IIS server... though I wonder who /would/ be doing that kind of thing, among the NSA, CIA, or maybe even the FBI at first.
  • by b17bmbr ( 608864 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @11:32AM (#14219744)
    not surprised you got modded flamebait. truth is, that yeah, there were many in the gov't and military that wanted to keep on going east. ans yes, we should have. in fact, one of the reasons many german generals surrendered to us so fast (such as the German army in the Ruhr and the Rhineland) was that they full well expected us to fight the Soviets. Not going to Berlin was purely a political decision. In fact, there were many political decisions, such as not giving Patton the resources he needed and diverting them to Monty (that useless piece of ...). We could have, and very well should have demanded that the Russians head back to the 1939 boundaries (you know, pre non-aggression pact) which would have gotten them out of Poland, et al. Of all the things that came out of Versailles in 1919, people forget that one of the major concerns of the allies was to prevent what Trotsky called "the red bridge to Europe" which he considered Germany. That is the reason they created Poland, Czechoslovakia, etc., after WW1, to prevent the spread of bolshevism. Besides punishing Germany, which was priority #1 (and 2, 3, 4, and 5 !!!), the fear of bolshevism was a lingering concern. In fact, Poland defeated Russia in a war in 1921 to stop that very thing. There was a precedent for concern over soviet expansion and it should have been dealt with then. Had the soviets been isolated, we could have contained them much better, not had to spend trillions to defend europe, and could have weakened the commies tremendously. but you are entirely right, there was little diffrence between the soviets and the nazis, save for the fact that the communists had penetratedhigh into the government here and had lots of supporters in America. and yes, alger hiss was a spy.
  • by yosemitesammy ( 920665 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @12:04PM (#14220067)
    All wars ever, everywhere, always have been and always will be, based on economics.
  • by josephtd ( 817237 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @12:20PM (#14220232)
    Actually there is no treaty outlawing space weapons. Only weapons of mass destruction in space.
  • Re: WWI aftermath (Score:3, Insightful)

    by markhb ( 11721 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @12:50PM (#14220564) Journal
    I've been thinking about that lately. It occurs to me that, in terms of rearranging the world political landscape, WWI had far more of a lasting effect than WWII. The main difference between the map in 1936 and the map in 1946 was virtual: the Iron Curtain. OTOH, the difference between maps from 1910 and 1920, featuring the carved-up Austro-Hungarian and Ottoman Empires (think: the Balkan Peninsula, Turkey, Iraq, the entire Middle East), is really the shaping of today's world.
  • Air Force "turf" (Score:2, Insightful)

    by dumpsterdiver ( 542329 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @02:14PM (#14221384)
    Charging the Air Force with this one makes sense - for now. USAF is our "networked" armed force - primarily aviation-related missions, but the AF culture thinks in terms of an enemy distributed functionally and/or geographically. They're also the most technology-friendly branch, inherent to the type of work they do.

    As far as letting CIA/NSA run this, you don't want an intelligence agency conducting offensive missions. Period. Yes, they're doing that now, but we already have huge oversight problems of intel groups (even the budget total is classified).

    Besides, the Air Force is the US's "standoff" branch. They can attack, cause mayhem, destroy and kill - but air power and cyberwar are both constrained by the fact that they cannot singly defeat an enemy. Both roles are support for another effort, be it political or on-the-ground military. The fact of jointness enjoyed by US commanders makes this seem like a natural fit.

  • by EnderWiggin99 ( 84576 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @03:01PM (#14221876)
    Part of the issue is that the United States doesn't quite know who the 'bad guys' really are.

    You people have a colored history of violence for the sake of national or ideological interests. What you don't give proper conisderation to is that your interests are not always in the best interests of everyone else. And that you couldn't care less, because you need another crusade.

    We all have been shown time and time again that you do not act in everyone's best interests no matter how much bleating we hear from your country to the contrary.

  • by fbg111 ( 529550 ) on Friday December 09, 2005 @04:54PM (#14223038)
    I think I can be confident in saying that the new mission statement has been looked over and discussed by many General officers, public affairs officers and lawyers both civilian and blue-suiters. They don't often post public statements like that without knowing exactly what ramifications might pop up.

    With all due respect, these are some of the same people who brought us the highly tactful "shock and awe", applied to a civilian city interspersed with military and Baath party apparatus. A wiser choice would have been to stick with "surgical strikes" and "precision munitions". Old and boring as those may be, at least they make it clear that the target is the opposing military and that pains are being taken to avoid civilians. "Shock and awe" made us sound more like an indiscriminate bully high on his own power. Just because some verbiage has been looked over and discussed by lots of people with the same training and social norms doesn't guarantee a judicious decision on it.

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