PC FM Tuner Streamed Over a LAN? 67
ooglek asks: "FM radio seems to be falling out of favor, with many stations putting their streams online. Unfortunately, many choose bad codecs and low bandwidth feeds, which make them practically unappealing. There seem to be a fair number of PCI-based TV Tuner cards that come with a built in FM receiver, and I'm interested in what it might take to stream my local FM stations to the Windows, Unix and Mac boxes in my house over my LAN, as well as my TiVo and Slim Devices SqueezeBox. Is this merely a pipe-dream?"
web radio is better (Score:1)
I Don't Get It (Score:3, Interesting)
instead of stereo into the computer I happen to have it the other way around, and if I really wanted to listen the local rock station all I have to do I press a button.
I might be missing something but what is the point of having your computer play your radio, unless you plan on recording the banter of the DJs....
Re:I Don't Get It (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:I Don't Get It (Score:2)
Re:I Don't Get It (Score:1)
1. dopey and fagotty fan
2. clear channel employee/executive/stockholder
Re:I Don't Get It (Score:1)
Re:I Don't Get It (Score:2)
Sure, it's upstairs in the living room on the opposite side of the house.
Everything old... (Score:1)
I am a bit troubled at this trend towards paying recurring fees to do things that have been essentially free for decades. First OTA broadcast TV, now cable. Then radio, now Sirius.
When my children are my age opening up the fridge will be a subscription service. It will be called Digi-Chill 5000(r). I just copywrited that, so no stealing it in 30 years.
Re:Everything old... (Score:1)
You ARE correct that the recurrant cost for "basic" CABLE which is mostly simulcast of broadcast TV, breaks that model a little. It would perhaps have
Re:Everything old... (Score:2)
Re:Everything old... (Score:1)
the costs associated with producing television content are drastically higher than the costs associated with producing radio content. what's radio content? most stations (or channels on the sat services) are just computer generated/managed music playlists that require little human intervention. talk formats don't demand nearly as many human resources as their television counterparts
Re:Everything old... (Score:2)
They may be higher but why do they need to be so expensive?
Digtal video has dropped the cost of producing video. You can get a good digital camcorder for around $2000 "Cannon GL2". There is open source Digital Video editing software. Blender and Gimp for titling and rendering...
Actors are not that expensive. Most of the costs have to do with the production companies.
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Re:Everything old... (Score:3, Funny)
Use Nicecast (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Use Nicecast (Score:1)
Wouldn't be much better (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Wouldn't be much better (Score:2)
USB radioshark + icecast + liveice (Score:5, Informative)
I bought a USB Radioshark [amazon.com], set it up under Linux [linuxquestions.org], and used Icecast [icecast.org] with Liveice [arm.ac.uk] to setup realtime streaming.
I then setup a cgi to change stations. Works like a charm.
Re:USB radioshark + icecast + liveice (Score:2)
I use it to listen to MP3s at work streaming from my home box. Or if you get board you can be your own DJ on shoutcast.com
Kinda OT: I remember doing this many moons ago (Score:4, Interesting)
Sadly... I don't have an office in the UK any more so I guess my best bet now is Sirius radio.
Beyond TV 4 (Score:2)
Yeah, it's easy with (Score:1)
Easy, if you're willing to Think Different(TM) (Score:3, Informative)
2. A USB FM Tuner (that's supported by the Mac). Google. There's a few out there.
3. NiceCast, (or Air Foil) from Rogue Amoeba. www.rogueamoeba.com
Simple. Seamless. That's the beauty of the Mac.
Re:Easy, if you're willing to Think Different(TM) (Score:1)
Re:Easy, if you're willing to Think Different(TM) (Score:1)
and I'm interested in what it might take to stream my local FM stations to the Windows, Unix and Mac boxes in my house over my LAN, as well as my TiVo and Slim Devices SqueezeBox. Is this merely a pipe-dream?
Re:Easy, if you're willing to Think Different(TM) (Score:2)
he already has the clients...
A USB FM Tuner
And seems to favor PCI tuners...
Slightly off-topic- streaming all audio (Score:1)
Re:Slightly off-topic- streaming all audio (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Slightly off-topic- streaming all audio (Score:1)
Re:Slightly off-topic- streaming all audio (Score:2)
There are o
Re:Slightly off-topic- streaming all audio (Score:1)
Re:Slightly off-topic- streaming all audio (Score:2)
Re:Slightly off-topic- streaming all audio (Score:2)
And, to satisfy curiousity, what on earth have you made your desktop out of that it doesn't have either built in sound or spare pci slots?
Re:Slightly off-topic- streaming all audio (Score:2)
Re:Slightly off-topic- streaming all audio (Score:1)
Put a radio on top of your PC (Score:5, Informative)
how about rebroadcating rights and licensing fees (Score:1)
Just a thought.
legal aspects... (Score:2)
I definitely have the right to use anything within the confines of my house. But, if I setup an antenna and let my neighbors connect their radios to it, am I "rebroadcasting"? If I setup a GNU radio box and send the (undecoded) signals out over the internet, am I "rebroadcasting"? What if I only send them to myself?
And, more importantly, why should radio and
Easy. (Score:1)
I use an old ISA card called radiotrack and a shoutcast server.
How bad can these streams be? (Score:2)
I'd think even common 64kbit MP3 streams from a clean source at the radio station would probably sound better than a high bitrate stream generated locally from the noisy distorted signal you could receive over the air and digitize.
Re:How bad can these streams be? (Score:1)
FM Over Cable. (Score:2)
how about orb? (Score:2)
The rub with most TV card FM tuners (unless i'm mistaken) is that you can't concurrently use the FM tuner and the TV tuner (often they share the same ADC or mpeg2 encoding "bus" )
I've been thinking of doing the same thing except re-encoding sirius/howard for personal use/personal podcasting/timeshifting but only looked at what's involved quickly...
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Casting: VLC or Oddcast (Score:2)
On the other hand, there's icecasting/shoutcasting. you should be able to get a JACK stream from the FM tuner, in which case you can pickup Oddsock's Oddcast to stream it to an Oddcast/Icecast server; the server will require editing a couple lines of an xml config to get running properly but its not hard. There's plenty of other options for streaming to Icecast, I just happen
Where are the wideband SDRs? (Score:2)
And monitoring every station's RDS feed simultaneously would be a fun trick.
Re:Where are the wideband SDRs? (Score:2)
You mean like with GNU Radio [comsec.com]? It sounds like it would take some real DIY (or expensive) hardware and probably not insignificant CPU cycles, but it would be cool.
New Ask Slashdot Requirement (Score:3, Interesting)
I think the submitters should be force into developing a simple webpage that details what they did based on the knowledge slashdot gave them.
Heck, they could put it on ehow.com they have a wiki how to website http://wiki.ehow.com/Main-Page [ehow.com]
Re:New Ask Slashdot Requirement (Score:2)
Do any of those exist?
X.
Re:New Ask Slashdot Requirement (Score:2)
of course if you want i think you could upload it to the wikimedia commons.
Squeezebox & Icecast (Score:2)
I've asked this question on the Slim Devices list and the answer was that, no, the slimserver doesn't do this (that would be best), but it can be done with IceCast (or any other package that does shoutcast streams). The Squeezebox and most other systems can play shoutcast MP3 streams so that would be the solution.
You could write a nice P
Hardware Solution (Score:1)
Otherwise, you could write / find some software to suit (I ended up writing my own). All I did was write a simple app that fed raw PCM data across a UDP socket and some playback software at the other end. With less than 20ms overall latency it was pretty good for near realtime usage, and used a very small amount of bandwith (8kHz
Currently doing it with XM (Score:3, Informative)
Why do it for XM? I like to listen to music anywhere in the house and I don't want to pay multiple subscription fees. Why for FM? The main reason was to get the audio into the computer and converted to MP3 so that I could record a few programs that I like and listen to them later. Streaming was just an added bonus for me at that time.
The basics of what you will need are:
1. An FM tuner card
2. Software for tuning (depends on card)
3. aumix for twiddling mixer settings
4. Darkice to read audio from the card
4a. Lame, or other CODEC of choice (optional)
5. Liveice to stream audio to clients
6. A little bit of fiddling to make it all work.
Not likely (Score:2)
Uh-huh. Tell that to radio sales department where I work, I'm sure they'll get a kick out of hearing the service they give away as added value is supplanting the over-the-air signal which pays everyone's mortgage. Streaming has been a burden for most radio stations which make little, is any, money from it. FM is a highly efficient and cost effective means honed over decades to distribute 'music-data' from a single
Same thing w/ Yahoo LAUNCHCast Radio? (Score:2)
Hmmm... OK Weirdo Question For Sure... (Score:2)
VNC or WME (Score:1)