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The Last Games You'd Play? 529

Rigor Morty asks: "I am an older man (44), an avid fan of video games, and I am faced with a problem; my hands are becoming arthritic as I get older. I fear I will soon have to completely give up the console games I have loved over the years. To that end, let me ask the Slashdot Nation — if you were going to give it up, what games would you insist on playing before you had to quit? I'm willing to make some effort to do this, and spend some cash; I will buy the new consoles if I need to, or try to find obscure titles."
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The Last Games You'd Play?

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  • zelda (Score:5, Interesting)

    by joe 155 ( 937621 ) on Saturday November 25, 2006 @08:02PM (#16987770) Journal
    I always say that occarina of time and majora's mask were really two parts of the same game, play both right through. Best games ever. I personally think that Majora's mask is a little better out of the two... still they are both fantastic.

    I've got happy memories which will last me a life time from these games, I feel happy recomending them.
  • Ms. Pacman (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Groo Wanderer ( 180806 ) <charlieNO@SPAMsemiaccurate.com> on Saturday November 25, 2006 @08:02PM (#16987776) Homepage
    Duh. You can pick up a good machine for under a grand. It is _THE_ game.

              -Charlie

    P.S. You can probably play it with arthritic hands too, just modify the screw on joystick head and play it with your palm.
  • by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Saturday November 25, 2006 @08:07PM (#16987812) Journal
    Learn how to play chess. :)

    Or "Go". Easy to learn, difficult to master.

         
  • Arthiritic? At 44? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Colin Smith ( 2679 ) on Saturday November 25, 2006 @08:13PM (#16987872)
    Typing wear and tear? Take glucosamine, chondroitin (they often come together) and cod liver oil. They're food supplements. Your body uses them to build and maintain joint tissues.

     
  • Acupuncture (Score:2, Interesting)

    by rasper99 ( 247555 ) on Saturday November 25, 2006 @08:18PM (#16987920)
    My brother is 51 and has been getting accupuncture for his arthritis. He swears by it. If you have tried everything else it couldn't hurt.
  • Mouse replacements (Score:4, Interesting)

    by PIPBoy3000 ( 619296 ) on Saturday November 25, 2006 @08:30PM (#16988032)
    There's starting to be a number of replacements for traditional controls. There's eye tracking products [eyetechds.com], software solutions [disability-resource.com], and a variety of hardware replacements like a Wacom tablet.
  • by pbjones ( 315127 ) on Saturday November 25, 2006 @08:30PM (#16988036)
    I'm an X-plane user, I can build, fly, go on-line. It uses my brain and teaches me something new. I have to look at many real-world (tm) things like geography weather etc. I can play hard flying through canyons or relax with a long flight across the pacific. Re-enact historic flights on-line with other flyers, dog fight, whatever. Move into building your own scenery, model aircraft etc.
  • Re:Me..? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by nametaken ( 610866 ) on Saturday November 25, 2006 @08:36PM (#16988094)

    I'd play whatever I want, via emulators, with a user input device that doesn't aggravate my arthritis.
  • by enharmonix ( 988983 ) <enharmonix+slashdot@gmail.com> on Saturday November 25, 2006 @08:40PM (#16988122)
    Just speculation, but isn't there suppsed to be a new Wii controller in the works, similar to the power glove? That might be even easier on the hands than the mote.
  • Fallout 1 and 2 (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 25, 2006 @08:49PM (#16988202)
    Two of the best RPGs ever made, and possibly the best non-fantasy RPGs ever.
  • by binaryspiral ( 784263 ) on Saturday November 25, 2006 @09:08PM (#16988334)
    For me, though it I'd want to play the original Super Mario Bros for the NES. First game and first console I owned.

    Ditto. And I'd have my wife wrap it and put it and the NES console (in original box) under the tree so I can scamper down the stairs all bleery eyed and shred it like I was 7 again... ah, good times.

    But I don't think they make footie pajamas for folks my size... and if they do, well... that's just creepy.

    But for the original poster - man get a Wii and play for the next decade, don't give up.
  • by Salvance ( 1014001 ) * on Saturday November 25, 2006 @09:19PM (#16988406) Homepage Journal
    If you can't use your hands, why not do something that doesn't require your fingers much? Dance Dance Revolution is fun and gives you a good workout, some of the Nintendo Wii games don't require fine motor control, etc. Just because you can't hit the buttons like a madman anymore doesn't mean you have to stop gaming.
  • Descent!!! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Supp0rtLinux ( 594509 ) <Supp0rtLinux@yahoo.com> on Saturday November 25, 2006 @09:47PM (#16988584)
    Forget the consoles, go old school on a new PC and play Descent. It absolutely rocked. You can still find new-in-box copies on Ebay http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=ht tp%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&fkr=1&from=R8&sati tle=video+game+descent&category0=&submitSearch=Sea rch [ebay.com] And FWIW, it rocks on newer hardware and CPUs. A 44 year old that plays video games? In 20 years, you'll be the best granddad of them all...
  • by EinZweiDrei ( 955497 ) * <einzweidrei@wildmail.com> on Saturday November 25, 2006 @10:13PM (#16988776)
    A famous counter-example occurred at the 1925 Baden-Baden Tournament when Aaron Nimzowitsch swept all the pieces off the chessboard, jumped up on the table and screamed "How can I lose to this idiot?".

    Chess can be just as aggravating.
  • Re:Me..? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Gilmoure ( 18428 ) on Saturday November 25, 2006 @11:10PM (#16989086) Journal
    Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (SMAC/X). I've been playing this game for about 5 years now. Great variety.
  • Re:Me..? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by aplusjimages ( 939458 ) on Sunday November 26, 2006 @12:06AM (#16989398) Journal
    That's funny because I played the Wii at a friends house and I used the buttons as much as on other consoles.
  • Solution (Score:3, Interesting)

    by umbrellasd ( 876984 ) on Sunday November 26, 2006 @12:09AM (#16989426)
    Begin practicing telekinesis now, before it's too late.

    On a more serious note, the Wii controller is very nice for a variety of games because it takes the focus off the hands, but I'm actually wondering if using a controller might actually have some therapeutic value for you. The drawback of most controllers is that the range of motion is, by design, made as small as possible, but with arthritis, what you actually want is fuller range of motion to articulate the joints as fully as possible.

    Personally, I think moving to a Wii will be nice for you--and hey, what about games like Dance, Dance, Revolution, which is really great for fitness and does not require your hands at all? Also, I'd say get yourself into some kind of physical activity that uses your hands through a full range of motion. Keeping your hands active is the best way to fight off the effects of arthritis although, yes, it is painful. The alternative is a rapid decent into limited range of motion and a large amount of pain.

    In combination with those measures, we're probably not that far from further control innovations like retinal tracking for targetting (Wii is already tracking your controller; it won't be long before we're watching head movement or even hand waving with a wristband). Wii is really paving the way for the entrance of these advancements in controllers, so the future is brighter than you may think! I think you will be able to happily play games for your entire life, if you take some preventative care steps now and ride the wave of technology innovations that are on the way.

  • by zippthorne ( 748122 ) on Sunday November 26, 2006 @01:20AM (#16989766) Journal
    There's no sharks in video games.

    Well yeah, that's kind of the poster's point. While he can still use his hands, he should try and do some stuff that needs 'em. Video games are for when you're stuck inside.

    also, speaking as a person who paid extra for the opportunity to dive with sharks, It's not as dangerous as you'd think, and then you have the story. (the reason I paid extra is that you almost never see sharks while diving under normal circumstances. Similarly, you almost never see bears or coyotes when hiking in the woods under normal circumstances)

    What's the point of being alive if all you do is watch other people LIVE.
  • by MBGMorden ( 803437 ) on Sunday November 26, 2006 @02:01AM (#16989914)
    Depends on the type of arthritis. Exercise is terrible for Gout in particular. It only flares up occasionally, but the pain from gouty arthritis comes from having excess ulric acid deposits create crystals in the joints, which then tear at the tissue inbetween the joint as it moves (believe me, it's one painful mutha #@#!#. Been dealing with it since I was 19). Excess movement during a flareup just causes more tearing of the joint tissue and this can cause problems in the long run. Since it only affects one foot or the other at a time, I usually will take a day or two off from work and resort to crutches around the house when it flares up.
  • by tsa ( 15680 ) on Sunday November 26, 2006 @02:29AM (#16989992) Homepage
    Instead of working out, which gets you tired, you can also play adventure games. They don't usually require much in the form of interaction with the computer. To get you started, you can try the Carol Reed mysteries [mdna-games.com], or Syberia [justadventure.com]. Look at Adventure Gamers [www.adventuregamers] or Just Adventure [justadventure.com] for more information.
  • by drsquare ( 530038 ) on Sunday November 26, 2006 @03:18AM (#16990148)
    If a computer can't play it then it's not much use for the 80 year old disabled gamer is it?
  • by GMC-jimmy ( 243376 ) on Sunday November 26, 2006 @10:48AM (#16991506) Homepage
    My mother is in her 60's and loves to play PC games. Particularly Guild Wars is her current favorite to date. Before PC games, and more importantly before her arthritis, she was the Mario goddess to us kids with a Nintendo.

    By switching to PC games she freed herself from having to hold the controller. Now she simply rests her hands on the mouse and keyboard to play.

    The type of game also seems to matter as to how often she can play as does the weather. First Person Shooters (twitch games) aren't her thing. And that's perfectly understandable. Casual games with some automation to the gameplay seems to spark her interest the best.

    It may not be that you need to give up gaming entirely. Perhaps just the platform may be the key.
  • Re:Me..? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Zaphod2016 ( 971897 ) on Sunday November 26, 2006 @11:08AM (#16991622) Homepage
    I like playing the old FF games on an NES/SNES emulator. Not only can I save my progress whenever/wherever I want, but I can speed up the game while leveling up and skip some of those tedious battle sequences.

    This way, I can play for a few minutes at a time, or get sucked in for an entire weekend now and again.

    p.s. I don't have arthritis, but I do prefer a full-sized keyboard to a VG controller. I also assume that the ability to pause whenever you want is a plus.

    p.p.s. You can borrow my Power Glove if you think it might feel better. It's not very accurate, but it is pretty bad.
  • Best Game Ever (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 26, 2006 @03:48PM (#16993896)
    If you play through one computer game in your life play the original half-life. It received the hight rating ever from pc gamer and its probably pretty cheap now.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 26, 2006 @06:14PM (#16995310)
    Not as dumb as it sounds. One of my friends lost the use of his arms in a motorbike accident, so he learnt to use a computer with his feet. And he's now one of the most skilled FPS gamers I've ever met... I'm talking regularly topping the ladder in nationwide gaming ladders.
  • by illuminatedwax ( 537131 ) <stdrange@nOsPAm.alumni.uchicago.edu> on Sunday November 26, 2006 @08:58PM (#16996710) Journal
    Not at all - you cannot have an enjoyable game until you can learn to recognize the end of the game. Yes, the computer will not declare "I win" right away; they will pass. But it is nearly impossible for a beginner to understand why he or she has not won. The chess analogy doesn't compare at all - you know when your piece is taken, and you know when you have lost. You can begin playing unambiguously from the beginning. Go is a lot more subtle, and it takes a lot of time before you can even understand why you have lost. I began learning go on a small board versus a computer, and when the game finished, certainly they showed the colored areas, but it was very frustrating because the beginner thinks "Why the hell does he control that area? I have him totally surrounded!!"

    I guess maybe a better way of putting it is this: Go is easy to learn, but not at all fun until your skills have progressed to a certain level. You say that learning to count the endgame is part of learning the rules - that directly contradicts the "easy to learn" mantra because endgame counting is not easy. You can't have it both ways.

    Perhaps specific instruction sets are difficult to understand, but an assembler pseudocode would hold the properties I desired. Ok, let's set that analogy aside. You know what else is easy to learn but difficult to master? Brainfuck [muppetlabs.com].

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