Best Way to Grab Movie Clips? 58
DorkusMasterus asks: "I work for my church in a volunteer sense, and I'm trying to produce a video that will incorporate video clips from films (short, less than 30 seconds per clip, more likely 5-10 seconds), and I am wondering what you fine folks use to grab clips from DVD and TV (in preferably an MPEG or AVI format when completed). Please keep in mind that I am not interested in something that would copy a full-length film, nor am I'm not advocating discussion on how to best pirate films. What utilities would you use to retrieve short clips from DVDs and other digital sources?"
DVD Shrink & TMPGenc (Score:5, Informative)
If you need to shrink the file to lower res than DVD, I recommend TMPGenc, which works very well. You can also import your VOB/MPG into Adobe Premiere Pro and export it to a new format, while editing clips together with fades, titles, etc.
What is your budget? Do you prefer F/OSS? Windows? Mac? Linux?
Re:DVD Shrink & TMPGenc (Score:3, Interesting)
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I use it all, and if anything, my use of "unlicensed pro
Re:DVD Shrink & TMPGenc (Score:4, Informative)
Anyway, for the reference of everybody, I did my own research and CCLI claims you need a separate license for performance of movies. The license costs $50-$600 annually depending on which studios you license and your church's attendance, and it seems to imply [cvli.org] that you must play clips off the original media - no dubbing allowed, even for production purposes.
I suppose one should let the Holy Spirit and one's fear of Roman/corporate punishment determine how to proceed. Best of luck regardless of what path you take.
Re:DVD Shrink & TMPGenc (Score:1)
The way I, and most others I know, understand that passage is that Paul is saying to submit yourselves to the authority of the Kingdom of God, not to the Romans.
But each to their own...
Re:DVD Shrink & TMPGenc (Score:1)
When in Rome? (*ducks*)
Re:DVD Shrink & TMPGenc (Score:3, Interesting)
I find anarcho-capitalism intriguing. What you want is for capitalism to extend into the public utilities, law enforcement, etc. should be run on a capitalist
Re:DVD Shrink & TMPGenc (Score:2)
That's completely true, but as someone who has a faith belief, I will not offer resistance if they want to come and take me away. I believe in natural rights and I believe that I can not force anyone to do anything against their will. By default, the law is force. I can not take advantage
Re:DVD Shrink & TMPGenc (Score:2)
Well, I think it's reasonable to think that you should be able to trust your pastor et al. when it comes to the Bible and the teachings of Jesus considering that's their life, but when people blindly follow without questioning, you get pastors who abuse that trust.
Re:DVD Shrink & TMPGenc (Score:2)
Re:DVD Shrink & TMPGenc (Score:2)
While some religions and, indeed, some denominations of Christianity do have a hierarchical structure, please be aware that this is far from universally true. The church I am a member of did select our pastor (a search committee was formed to find on
Re:DVD Shrink & TMPGenc (Score:2)
In soviet^h^h^h^h^h^h democractic America,
laws pay attention to you!
1 Peter 2:13-17 (Score:1)
I'm an anarcho-capitalist Christian, so I actually don't pay attention to whatever laws you guys voted for
How does 1 Peter 2:13-17 [nccbuscc.org] fit into your beliefs?
my use of "unlicensed products" probably sells more of it
Then explain this to the copyright owner in your letter seeking an offer. If they wanted to sell more of it, they would license clips to you.
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I see 1 Pe
Re:DVD Shrink & TMPGenc (Score:1)
WWJR (Score:1, Funny)
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I used to try DVD Decrypter first, and if it failed, then I'd use DVDFab Decrypter. I eventually stopped using DVD Decrypter entirely since so many discs were failing.
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Here [wikipedia.org] is one I had to deal with recently. You can't tell by the box if/what copy protection they have. There are half a dozen commercial schemes right now.
Re:"But I only stole the hubcaps!" (Score:5, Insightful)
Also, copyright infringement is not theft.
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One of the rights accorded to the owner of copyright is the right to reproduce or to authorize others to reproduce the work in copies or phonorecords. This right is subject to certain limitations found in sections 107 through 118 of the Copyright Act (title 17, U. S. Code). One of the more important limitations is the doctrine of "fair use." Although fair use was not mentioned in the previous copyright law, the doctrine has developed through a substantial n
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HOWEVER:
The BIGGEST reason why the DMCA needs to be struck down is that it does an end-run around fair use. It is completely within fair use to use clips from a copyrighted work. It certainly depends on the amount, but sampling is definitely allowed.
What you _can't_ do under the DMCA is exactly what you're asking about: You can't circumvent copy protection no matter how trivial - and al
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The problem here is that the fundamental point of DRM and the DMCA is to give copyright holders the ability to say "No" when nothing else will. Together, DRM and the DMCA enforce the wishes
Re:"But I only stole the hubcaps!" (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't know if you're the religious type (I assume so if you're volunteering for your church) but stealing short clips is still stealing. "Thou shall not steal" doesn't come with size qualifiers.
Funny thing is that no matter how large a portion he uses nothing is missing from the original work. Nothing missing, nothing stolen.
Producing a video for an audience to watch is even worse, you're basically using someone else's effort to create a product.
Nobody creates anything in a vacuum so every new work is based on someone else's effort.
And soliciting advice on how to hack into DVDs is a violation of the DMCA, agree with it or not.
Most religions require their followers to violate immoral laws.
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- Using short clips is allowed for reviews, for discussion in educational settings, etc., as long as you are clearly referencing the original work.
- Proper attribution and context makes the difference. It is the same as the difference between "quoting" and "plagarizing".
I presume you would acknowledge a difference between reading books and summarizing the knowledge into your own writing, photocopying the book
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Not necessarily. You can also show your support by funding production. The advantage of doing it that way is it works whether or not copyright law exists or is enforced; you can always make money by selling your services, but making money by selling copies isn't
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You're assuming that the only way they can make money is by selling CDs.
But why would that be? Are they such bad performers that no one wants to see them live? Is the quality of their work so unpredictable that no one is willing
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Have you considered the possibility that the musicians you know haven't reached the point in their lives yet where they should be trying to sustain themselves as mu
why did you all assume he was planning to steal? (Score:1)
Before you assumed he was stealing the clips, did you all even ask if his church has the CCLI licenses?
Many churches (like mine for instance) purchase licenses from CCLI or others to give rights to do things like copying sheet music for choir, worship bands, etc, playing other's music, either led by choir/band, or from CD/DVD..
And, if you have the right licenses, you are legally allowed to use of video in various ways, whether clips, playing a movie for a crowd, etc.
Without those licenses, you are in
Video Capture/TV tuner card (Score:1)
Macrovision (Score:1)
Those two vertical bars you see on your screen mean "paused". TV tuner cards sold in the United States after October 1998 halt recording when they detect a Macrovision signal.
MEncoder (Score:5, Informative)
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Its a little easier with DVDs since there are usually 2 key frames per second (or more) where as MPEG4 will usually only have a key frame once every 10 seconds (240 frames) or on scene changes.
If you want to take a section of a MPEG4 clip (or even from a DVD if you are getting problems) you can tell mplayer to re-encode a larger section of the file (atleast 30 seconds either side of wha
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It sounds like mplayer could use a -nearest-keyframe option to find the appropriate frame close to your -ss value. Does that exist?
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However mplayer copies from the exact second you tell it, though you can get mypler to list the numbers for the key frames.
I would be very happy if mencoder simply allowed you to specify start and end frames rather than only seconds
When copying DVD's is outlawed... (Score:1)
Regardless of your good intentions, I don't think that you'll find any officially sanctioned programs that will let you copy part of a DVD. Even if you restrict yourself to the most obvious fair use, you'll still have to do it with the same tools the pirates use
VirtualDub? (Score:2)
DivX/Xvid (Score:2)
Illumination (Score:4, Funny)
With the man hours involved, no one would dare accuse you of exploiting the works for profit.
iMovie? (Score:2)