Adventuresome or "Hands On" Careers in Tech? 72
omission9 asks: "For about 10 years I have worked mostly behind a desk in a cubicle and am starting to feel that this environment is making me miserable. The cheap fluorescent lights, the stuffy air, and the restless feeling I get from just sitting so long are starting to really annoy me. My background is mainly as a programmer but I started my career as a network engineer/network
administrator. I am also a member of the US Naval Reserve and am cleared as high as Top Secret. Are there any jobs out there that match this sort of skill set (more or less programmer but generally excellent tech skills) that don't require being stuck behind a desk? Paying relatively well would be a major plus
as would something that provides a solid career (20+ years of work). Is there anyone out there, from anywhere other than a cube farm,
that may have some advice?"
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lab work (Score:5, Informative)
You want design validation. You'll be spending some time in a cube, but in my experience, you'll spend most of your time in a lab. I took a maintenance spot, just so I could live in a lab. Still crap for lighting, but lots of toys and challenges, plus you're not sitting all day.
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I agree with semiconductor R&D, as being very rewarding.
I started as a "validation tech", pushing parts through the handlers. This was destructive and non-destructive testing on big lots of parts. We get the parts straight out of the fab, test and keep only the good ones. Then we split this huge lot into several lots, and each sub-lot goes to a different "stress", maybe ESD, steam chamber (can we force moisture into the package), etc. Later we test the part to see how many we killed. It was a good
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Try power supply design. More lab work, more smoke. Today's designs can be quite complex and understood by few. A worthy challenge. Oh yeah, and the product really is out to get you.
'Hands On' IT career.... (Score:3, Insightful)
But seriously, what about telemetry and embedded systems? Your Naval connections may kick in here, as they have sensing systems everywhere. Also research vessels.
Without knowinng more, that immediately comes to mind....
Re:'Hands On' IT career.... (Score:4, Funny)
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They just make about a hundred and fifty thousand a year more than us
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Here's some fun. Take them for a drive. Tell them you are going on a picnic. Dump them in Fallujah, or some other gnarly place, and then let them walk back.
Real life 'call of duty'.
The thought just warms my heart.
Go Navy (Score:5, Funny)
How about this? (Score:4, Interesting)
Roll your own (Score:4, Interesting)
Risk appetite (Score:5, Informative)
Paying relatively well would be a major plus as would something that provides a solid career (20+ years of work).
Given the sentence from the article, the submitter may not have the risk appetite for what you're suggesting.
While I agree that starting your own business does provide the sort of flexibility and widening of job scope that the submitter wants, the solid career and the good pay are not guaranteed. I've read statistics (no sources spring to mind, sorry) that only about 10 - 30% of startups survive past the first three years. And these are the years where you're likely to be getting the least amount of pay out of the business as you'll be wanting to reinvest everything into the business to give it the best possible chance of succeeding in the long run.
That being said, starting (or trying to start) a business can be the most rewarding thing around. I've tried it several times and failed for various reasons, but I would do it all over again if I spotted a reasonably good opportunity because it gives you the chance (in fact, it's practically a requirement) to move around a good deal and fill in gaps in your knowledge you probably never knew you had.
Ask yourself the following questions if this is a route you're considering:
1. Are you prepared to take on a substantial amount of risk when you're starting out? Remember that you will not have much in terms of financial leverage and brand name, and there will be unscrupulous customers who will try to delay payment as much as possible just because they know they have a reasonable chance of getting away with it.
2. Can you ensure that you will have a good work-life balance when you're doing this? A lot of people I know who have started businesses of their own have started with a home office to save on costs, but having a family as well means that you will probably find it hard to differentiate between "work time" and "family time".
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Learn a new language (Score:1)
Leverage your clearance (Score:3, Informative)
Be careful what you wish for (Score:1, Interesting)
There are lots of companies who install their equipment all over the world. I am sure some of them would be glad to meet you. The people who install and maintain the equipment aren't abnormally skilled and getting those jobs is mostly a matter of being in the right place at the right time. As always; network.
Peace Corps? (Score:3, Informative)
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Re:Peace Corps? (Score:4, Insightful)
more likely to be shoved into an office environment teaching Windows and MS Office for organizations who simply
don't want to pay a local than doing useful IT work. Our mantra is we make our own job, but getting that job you want
will involve fighting your way through PC and local beaurocracy and culture with no guarnetee of success. The best
thing you can do for yourself is talk to your recruiter about the specific work you want, and be willing to hold out
for the right assignment. Also, once you get an offer for a country, try and get ahold of the APCD in that country. Normally
PC can not tell you your exact assignment until well into training, however since there are rarely more than 3 IT
voulenteers per country, they should be able to give you details with a little pushing. The potential for a great
experience is there, but you will need to be prepared to fight for it.
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Disclaimer: I work there.
Try teaching (Score:4, Interesting)
If you need to get into this, check out a continuing education program at a local technical college.
Oblig (Score:5, Funny)
Some ideas (Score:4, Interesting)
2. Lateral move into sciences, doing fieldwork. Fieldwork engineer/scientists who can also do IT fluently, particularly programming, are often golden in some fields where the combination is hard to find.
3. Aerospace - new rocket companies (XCOR, SpaceX, etc). John Carmack isn't hiring right now I think, but that might change.
4. Systems engineering, with your background you might do aerospace or naval systems engineering.
Question: are you tied down by family, or relatively mobile?
small shop (Score:4, Interesting)
Of course, you'll either have to invent your position or wait for someone to die to get a job like this.
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Do you have a death wish or something?
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My biggest weakness is that I don't like and am not good at "networking" or sales, and those are key. My friend who has a million dollar business now was very good at those things. I'm also not very ruthless, and in my informal outside computer work so far ha
Contract in Iraq (Score:4, Informative)
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Iraq (Score:3, Interesting)
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Timing (Score:2)
I'd suggest, this is a great time to have worked in the green zone, but a lousy time to think about heading bthere.
For one thing, the insurgency has had a long time to adapt to US tactics. This is bad of course for US troops, but recent events suggest that they're starting to expand their repertoire in way that may make working
Hands On IT Work (Score:2, Interesting)
I would not recommend NSA however, its mostly more of what you are complaining about. CIA goes where NSA fears to tread (or is prevented by policy...).
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Your situation. (Score:2)
Tell me you didn't believe them when they told you you have a "brain cloud". You didn't believe them, did you???
How about a Navy lab? (Score:2)
Telemetry/Systems Engineering (Score:1)
the challenges im hit with are generally more practical than theoretical (eg. ill write software to describe the functionality of the remote computing device rather than design the actual way in which it is programmed) bu
Underwater Robotics (Score:1)
Not all programming jobs are at cube farms... (Score:2)
For question A, there are companies that don't expect their programmers to work in cubicles. Ask companies about this aspect of their work environment. Consider, for example, Argon ST [argonst.com] (Full disclosure: I work as an engineer there in the DC area. Our facility h
IT is your place (Score:1, Funny)
experience you crave.
You will infact be on your hands and knees, rebooting servers, carrying desktops, laptops, installing ram, etc.
Better yet, you will be pulling cable, mounting hardware, changing tapes, etc.
You are trading a sedentary work, for mind numbing, soul sucking work, it's your pick.
Television and Multimedia productions (Score:2)
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The downside is that it's probably hard to find steady, year-round work doing that kind of thing.
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Geekcorps (Score:2)
So there's hope. If you're interested in something really specific, like programming, then the
Go Navy! (Score:1)
How about oil exploration? (Score:2)
Field Science (Score:5, Interesting)
In some field seasons nothing much interesting happens; in most something interesting enough to write about happens. And in a very few seasons, careers and reputations can be made. It is in those rare, once in a lifetime seasons that careers and reputations are made. In those seasons, there is never enough time to do everything that is needed. The ability to store and analyze data in real time can make a great difference.
I have (from the comfort of my desk) worked with a number of field scientists over the years. By in large they are either technologically hopeless, or enthusiastic but unskilled. They usually rely on graduate students, usually a graduate student, to take care of their tech. A few lucky ones have a grad student who has a year or two experience in IT. Even though they only have a few rudimentary skills, they are regarded as if they have some rare gift. And it is rare, to have more than basic IT skills.
You could go to grad school, or try to find or create a staff job. If you've been in business, act like an entrepreneur. Find somebody doing something you are interested in, and create an opportunity. Principal Investigators are like entrepreneurs too. They have to sing for their supper, convince the funders that their project is more worthy than other projects.
Now the downside: science is done for love and glory, not money. Scientists who have achieved tenure live a secure, middle class lifestyle, but everyone else is hand to mouth. You might not get paid at all, or paid a pittance. If you're lucky, you might make 20-30K. You might have to work for nothing until you can bring in some grant money. On the other hand, set this against the things you might be doing: travelling to Africa to study lions; trekking the silk road to find uncharted ruins; exploring the jungle of New Guinea to find the last speaker of a dying language.
Some research even involves danger. I happened to be at CDC Ft Collins DVBID when they were scrambling a team of epidemiologists and trop-med guys to go to Africa because of an outbreak of Rift Valley Fever. Most people would be running the other way, but when some new disease like Ebola emerges and has people bleeding out their eyeballs, somebody has to get on the ground to study it. Presumably those people could use somebody to look after their sat phones, fix their laptops, figure out how to make their databases work.
How much would experiences like that be worth in dollar terms?
In the few times I've gone into the field, I've had some thrilling experiences: unearthing what was the forth known instance of a fossil shark species; assisting a paleontolgist with a triceratops skull. Even the mundane things you do are out of the ordinary, like hiking the trails of the badlands in the early morning fragance of crushed sagebrush rising from your boots, or clambering up a remote talus slope in search of the next find.
Life is, in the end, about filling your limited allotment of time with wonderful experiences. Money is only instrumental to that end. If you have no dependents who are relying on your income, why not spend a few years doing things that many people dream about, but only one in a thousand experience?
Suppose, after a few years, you decide to go back to corporate IT. Imagine that the first item on your resume was that you spent the last two years exploring and raising artifacts from a 2000 year old Roman warship. Or maybe you were part of a team that discovered a dozen new plant species unknown to science, one of which shows promise in treating cancer. Is that going to lose you any interviews, versus having have worked with the Java framework du jour? Maybe, but not at any place you or I would want to work at.
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I think you've sold me to it. Where do I sign up?
Some Really Cool Jobs (Score:1)
Some really cool jobs, out there right now:
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You need to have a great deal of character to be happy doing that work. First, you're going to see horrible, heartbreaking things. Second, there is frustration: there will never be enough resources to do the job. In fact you have to compete for resources against other relief outfits, although you cooperate on the ground. Third, there is politics at every level and in every imaginable dimension. You must convince donors to give you what you need; you must convin
lots of great suggestions so far (Score:1)
I definitely have a bit more hope that I don't necessarily have to be stuck behind a desk in order
to ply my trade.
Keep the ideas coming...I think that there are plenty of people out there with the same concerns that I have!
Embedded Systems Field Support (Score:1)
Surfboard Designer (Score:1)
Dammit (Score:2)
Damnit... I always knew I should have studied AutoCAD instead of Verilog...
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