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Quickly Switching Your Servers to Backups? 73

moogoogaipan writes "After a few days thinking about the quickest way to bring my website back to the internet users, I am still stuck at DNS. From experience, even if I set the TTL for my DNS zone file as low as 5 minutes, there are still DNS servers out there won't update until a few days later (Yeah. I'm looking at you, AOL). Here is my situation. Say that I have my web servers and database servers at a remote backup location, ready to serve. If we get hit by an earthquake at our main location, what can I do in a few hours to get everyone to go to our backup location?"
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  • by MeanMF ( 631837 ) on Tuesday May 08, 2007 @05:21PM (#19043345) Homepage
    Talk to your ISP. They can set it up so the IP addresses at the main location can be rerouted to the DR site almost instantly.
  • excellent point (Score:3, Insightful)

    by swschrad ( 312009 ) on Tuesday May 08, 2007 @06:03PM (#19044189) Homepage Journal
    but wrong answer for it. the disaster plan should include backup for key people and assume responsibility for their dependents, so the key people give a schytte about what they're doing and have an out for the whole family from the (hopefully local) disaster.

    it's incumbent on manglement to have useful plans, and you should help make what they have useful. shift the end focus and present it to them.
  • by eln ( 21727 ) on Tuesday May 08, 2007 @06:17PM (#19044409)
    Ok sure, but if you're the kind of company that is making millions of dollars a minute through your website, you're paying qualified IT professionals to go out and spend a bundle of money developing an architecture that will allow full global load balancing with constant mirroring, probably with dedicated circuits between sites. You are definitely not posting Ask Slashdot articles about how to get around other ISPs' annoying habit of holding on to DNS records for too long.
  • by QuantumRiff ( 120817 ) on Tuesday May 08, 2007 @06:30PM (#19044635)
    you may find that people have other things on their minds when that amount of shit hits the fan.

    Really interesting point that seems to be overlooked. The CEO is concerned about getting everything back up and running (since statistically they have no heart or pulse), but the employees are more concerned about finding family members in the wreckage of their house, cleanup, watching the kids cause schools are shut down, etc..

    Whatever you do, ensure it is automated as possible, and please, please, please don't forget to test. I've heard to many stories about everything looking okay, until the emergency generator runs for several hours, vibrating a connection loose and causing it to shut down. It would pass the test run every month, that was only 15 min long. "Hmm, power is out, and power poles are blown all over the streets, do I stay safely inside? Or do I brave a trip across town to try to flip a switch for my wonderful employer?"
  • by CrankyOldBastard ( 945508 ) on Tuesday May 08, 2007 @07:02PM (#19045151)
    "You could spend a bundle of money doing global load balancing and maintaining a full hot spare site, or you could figure out how critical it really is that your website be up within 5 minutes of some major disaster like an earthquake."

    I wish I still had mod points left. It's overlooked by many people, that you should always compare the cost of a disaster/breakin/breakdown to the cost of being prepared for it. I've seen situations where over $10,000 was spent on a bug that would of cost about $200 in downtime. Similarly I've seen a few thousand dollars spent fixing a bug that affected one customer who was paying $15 per month.

  • A million dollars in revenue isn't what he meant, I think. A bank's revenue, for example, is much less than its transaction amount. Stock Exchance as well.

    Also, consider 2x60x40x52 comes out to 249,600,000,000. I bet Bank of America sees a billion dollars a day move. Peak transaction volume is often used when calculating potential loss, so it may only be $2 million / minute during the highest hour -- but that's always the hour you'll fail during ;)

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