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What's Keeping US Phones In the Stone Age? 925

knapper_tech writes "After seeing the iPhone introduction, I was totally confused by how much excitement it generated in the US. It offered no features I could see beyond my Casio W41CA's capabilities. I had a lot of apprehension towards the idea of a virtual keypad and the bare screen looked like a scratch magnet. Looks aren't enough. Finally, the price is ridiculous. The device is an order of magnitude more expensive than my now year-old Keitai even with a two-year contract. After returning to the US from Japan, I've come to realize the horrible truth behind iPhone's buzz. Over the year I was gone, US phones haven't really done anything. Providers push a minuscule lineup of uninspiring designs and then charge unbelievable prices for even basic things like text messages. I was greeted at every kiosk by more tired clamshells built to last until obsolescence, and money can't buy a replacement for my W41CA." Read on as this reader proposes and dismissed a number of possible explanations for the difference in cell-phone markets between the US and Japan. He concludes with, "It seems to me more like competition is non-existent and US providers are ramming yesteryear's designs down our throats while charging us an arm and a leg! Someone please give me some insight."

I finally broke down and got a $20 Virgin phone to at least get me connected until I get over my initial shock. In short, American phones suck, and iPhone is hopefully a wakeup call to US providers and customers. Why is the American phone situation so depressing?

Before I left for Japan about a year ago, I was using a Nokia 3160. It cost me $40 US and I had to sign a one year contract that Cingular later decided was a two-year contract. I was paying about $40 a month for service and had extra fees for SMS messages.

After I got to Kyoto, I quickly ended up at an AU shop and landed a Casio W41CA. It does email, music, pc web browsing, gps, fm radio, tv, phone-wallet, pictures (2megapixel), videos, calculator etc. I walked out of the store for less than ¥5000 (about $41) including activation fees, and I was only paying slightly over ¥4000 (about $33) per month. That included ¥3000 for a voice plan I rarely used and ¥1000 for effectively unlimited data (emails and internet).

Perhaps someone with more knowledge of the costs facing American mobile providers can explain the huge technology and cost gap between the US and Japan. Why are we paying so much for such basic features?

At first, I thought maybe it was something to do with network infrastructure. The US is a huge land area and Japan is very tiny. However, Japan would have lots of towers because of the terrain. Imagine something like Colorado covered in metropolitan area. Also, even though places like rural New Mexico exist, nobody has an obligation to cover them, and from the look of coverage maps, no providers do. Operating a US network that reaches 40% of the nation's population requires nowhere near reaching 40% of the land area. The coverage explanation alone isn't enough.

Another possibility was the notion that because Americans keep their phones until they break, phone companies don't focus much on selling cutting edge phones and won't dare ship a spin-chassis to Oklahoma. However, with the contract life longer, the cost of the phone could be spread out over a longer period. If Americans like phones that are built to last and then let them last, the phones should be really cheap. From my perspective, they are ridiculously priced, so this argument also fails.

The next explanation I turned to is that people in the US tend to want winners. We like one ring to rule them all and one phone to establish all of what is good in phone fashion for the next three years. However, Motorola's sales are sagging as the population got tired of dime-a-dozen RAZR's and subsequent knockoffs. Apparently, we have more fashion sense or at least desire for individuality than to keep buying hundreds of millions of the same design. Arguing that the US market tends to gravitate to one phone and then champion it is not making Motorola money.

At last I started to wonder if it was because Americans buy less phones as a whole, making the cost of marketing as many different models as the Japanese prohibitive. However, with something like three times the population, the US should be more than enough market for all the glittery treasures of Akiba. What is the problem?

I'm out of leads at this point. It's not like the FCC is charging Cingular and Verizon billions of dollars per year and the costs are getting passed on to the consumer. Japanese don't have genetically superior cellphone taste. I remember that there was talk of how fierce mobile competition was and how it was hurting mobile providers' earnings. However, if Japanese companies can make money at those prices while selling those phones, what's the problem in the US? It seems to me more like competition is non-existent and US providers are ramming yesteryear's designs down our throats while charging us an arm and a leg! Someone please give me some insight.
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What's Keeping US Phones In the Stone Age?

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 26, 2007 @11:10AM (#19996845)
    Book the first flight back to Japan, stay there, and buy whatever you want.
  • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Thursday July 26, 2007 @11:11AM (#19996867)
    A thinly veiled attack on the iPhone along with a simplistic look at the cell phone market to try and wrapper the whole thing. Atrocious.
  • by CaseCrash ( 1120869 ) on Thursday July 26, 2007 @11:27AM (#19997147)
    Thank you! I had no idea that my love of new and interesting technology and my desire to be able to use the internet outside of my house/work was a result of desire for a larger penis! You've changed my life with your keen insight and ability to correctly identify what every single consumer actually wants, whether they know it or not.
  • by Corporate Troll ( 537873 ) on Thursday July 26, 2007 @11:34AM (#19997317) Homepage Journal

    and my women to ... ;-)

    Be overweight, bitchy and expensive? Like most American women? ;-)

    Sorry, that statement made me think of the following joke, hence my statement:

    In heaven the police are English,
    the French are the cooks,
    the wives are Japanese,
    all houses are American,
    the Italians are the lovers,
    and everything is organized by the Germans.

    In hell the English are the cooks,
    the French are the police,
    the wives are American,
    the houses are Japanese,
    the Germans are the lovers,
    and everything is organized by the Italians.

  • by Animaether ( 411575 ) on Thursday July 26, 2007 @11:38AM (#19997385) Journal
    Exactly.. which is why I kept my desert storm gear.

    Let's see, I have pockets for my...
    - phone (calling + directory)
    - TI calculator (durr.. I can do math, me)
    - PDA (calendar / planning, of course)
    - iPod (music)
    - FM radio (talk radio)
    - blackberry (vroom-vroom e-mail for the hasty world)
    - Treo (web)
    - two-way (walkie-talkie for you 80's kids)
    - flashlight (what? it gets dark!)
    - camera (digitized *click-CLICK* included)
    - GPS unit (on the road again... lalala)

    Okay, so a single device could conceivably do all of the above and many a current 'smart phone' will cover practically all of the above.. but then what excuse would I have to wear my patriottism on my sleeve? :D HOO-RAH!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 26, 2007 @12:42PM (#19998493)
    He used to spend 15-20 hours per week on Slashdot composing posts that decry fiat currency and government regulation.

    Now that he has a full-featured phone, he is able to limit that time to 5 hours by quickly uploading stock replies to post on Slashdot. A few moments tweaking, and voila! a somewhat on-topic post.
  • by the eric conspiracy ( 20178 ) on Thursday July 26, 2007 @12:57PM (#19998767)
    Maybe it is because the US has the best, most reliable land line network in the world from the days of the AT&T monopoly. Cell phones are just extra cost frippery that most of us don't need and would have to pay extra for.

    I own a cell phone, but only carry it when I am looking for a job, traveling, or someone in my family is sick. The rest of the time I consider it an expensive, high maintenance, unreliable pain in the rear end and leave it at home.

  • by Mewtwo ( 878960 ) <MewtwoStruckBack&aol,com> on Thursday July 26, 2007 @01:52PM (#19999623)
    No, we'd put the spork IN the blender, and an old guy wearing a lab coat will show off how powerful his $400 blender is by blending the spork and putting up videos of it.
  • MANPHONE (Score:5, Funny)

    by tempest69 ( 572798 ) on Thursday July 26, 2007 @02:04PM (#19999857) Journal
    yes someone needs to build the manphone, a brick of a device that is hardened enough to be hit to deep middle filed with a baseball bat, while not losing signal. With battery power for a 3 day weekend of fishing in remote parts of Montana, where the tower is a ways away. Automatic replies to texts and voicemails saying that the service is unwanted and will not be used. It would keep a few reminders on hand such as the wifes B-day and anniversary (which it prompts for at purchase time). The ringtone is a bear growl no options. The recent calls list would automatically change any womans name to Todd except for the wife and mom, no need to help a snooping wife

    Storm

  • by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Thursday July 26, 2007 @04:46PM (#20002265)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 26, 2007 @06:54PM (#20003843)
    Welcome to the future fucknut. It is better than calling it An Ogg, or whatever you people have.
  • by mariushm ( 1022195 ) on Thursday July 26, 2007 @08:24PM (#20004749)
    Wait a few months and Steve Jobs will appear at another conference introducing a new cool feature to iTunes that allows you to buy an MP3 file for 2$ and convert it to ringtone on your iPhone. Plus, you will be able to "share" the ringtone with up to 3 friends for only 0.99$ (each). Wow, a new cool feature for iPhone!! omg, 133t, 111!!!

    It's all about the money.
  • by Bonobo_Unknown ( 925651 ) on Thursday July 26, 2007 @09:06PM (#20005075)
    My cell also works as a telephone!

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