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What Did You Change Your Mind About in 2007? 578

chrisd writes "The Edge 2008 question (with answers) is in. This year, the question is: 'What did you change your mind about and why?'. Answers are featured from scientists as diverse as Richard Dawkins, Simon Baron-Cohen, George Church, David Brin, J. Craig Venter and the Astronomer Royal, Lord Martin Rees, among others. Very interesting to read. For instance, Stewart Brand writes that he now realizes that 'Good old stuff sucks' and Sam Harris has decided that 'Mother Nature is Not Our Friend.' What did Slashdot readers change their minds about in 2007?"
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What Did You Change Your Mind About in 2007?

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  • by johnjaydk ( 584895 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @01:55PM (#21875280)
    I learned that offshore outsourcing isn't to bad after all. It's actually quite an asset.

    It has a disciplining effect on the entire organization since the punishment for immaturity is harsh and tangible.

    An additional benefit is that it has a rather sobering effect on local know-it-all's when they see that their work is in fact inferior to what we can get from a third world sourcing partner. After this sort of ego bruising they are more ready to accept modern and mature practices.

  • Ron Paul and the war (Score:4, Interesting)

    by argoff ( 142580 ) * on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @01:57PM (#21875292)
    I changed my mind about the war in Iraq because of Ron Paul. I was always sympathetic to the idea of bringing liberty to those overseas, but it is clear now that the source of liberty is individual choices not government ones. Ron Paul made it clear and final that the war is not helping the freedom of the people over there, and it is obviously not helping the freedom of people over here, and is directly responsible for the rise of a police state mentality in the USA, and is contributing greatly to our ongoing economic collapse. As Ron Paul once said, if we want wars all over the planet and want the government babying people from cradle to grave - then we must have an IRS and massive debt. But if we want freedom and liberty, then yes we can get rid of them.
  • Linux (Score:4, Interesting)

    by calebt3 ( 1098475 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @01:59PM (#21875322)
    I switched from XP to openSuSE in March, and decided it was too hard to work with, to the point that I pined for Window's familiarity. Temporarily lacking an XP CD, I downloaded Ubuntu as a stopgap. And decided I didn't need that XP CD after all.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @02:19PM (#21875474)
    You may have changed your mind but it seems that you didn't learn your lesson (to look things up instead of assuming). Earning power has steadily increased for at least fifty years. [census.gov]
  • by bmartin ( 1181965 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @02:28PM (#21875526)
    To expound on how correct you are, we're not really looking for alternative fuels in the US. It's sad; Europe (as a whole) is a much more agile entity than we are. For some reason, a dozen countries are making economic and social progress faster than a single one that has been an economic powerhouse for the past couple hundred years.

    If gasoline were a more appropriate price (e.g., $6/gal), we'd see alternatives popping up. Europe has been paying that much for gas for several years now. At this rate, the US will continue to produce/consume SUV's and trucks until gasoline becomes so expensive that it makes economic sense to switch over to something else. That aside, the US gov't is promoting patent law bullshit instead of realizing that it hinders our economic progress and ties up our courts, just like the war on drugs.

    The incentives for the US to stop sucking eggs aren't in place. It feels like there's nothing we can do to stop idiots like Ted Stevens from getting elected. Congress doesn't enact laws that are in our best interests and the president's a moron.

    I changed my mind about wanting to live in the US in 2007. It seems worth seriously considering a move to another country or even another continent. I'm thinking about vacationing in London. Canada and the UK don't seem like bad ideas right now. There's more wrong with this country than its president.
  • religion (Score:5, Interesting)

    by wizardforce ( 1005805 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @02:34PM (#21875568) Journal
    I changed my mind about religion, ironically it was because I started going back to church that I realized I didn't believe any of it.
  • by illectro ( 697914 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @02:35PM (#21875576)
    At the start of the year I still thought the big labels hadn't figured out to work with the internet and were going to litigate my favourite websites into submission, but they've finally got it and made deals instead of suing potential business partners. At the start of the year I was steadfast in my opinion that music labels were going to collapse, by the end of the year I've got the feeling that they might just make it through.
  • Impeachment. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Hamster Lover ( 558288 ) * on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @02:43PM (#21875628) Journal
    At the start of 2007 and after a Democratically controlled Congress was sworn into office I was of the opinion that impeachment should be off the table while Congress got down to some real business with a President that recognized the winds of change. I couldn't have been more wrong.
  • by plasmacutter ( 901737 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @02:44PM (#21875642)
    In the next 5-10 years it will be the place to live.

    global warming will soften some of the colder months.

    the CAD is already worth more than the USD

    Canada is actually tech friendly, and looks like it will remain so for the forseeable future, so it will attract the talent the US has been crushing to death under IP laws.

    Canada, land of the free, home of people with a spine, the future of north America.
  • Third Party (Score:3, Interesting)

    by iknownuttin ( 1099999 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @02:47PM (#21875672)
    Now I don't know how to lean.

    Why not third party?

    I'm a Government conservative and a social liberal (I think we should stop violating the Constitution, get rid of the IRS, stop these stupid wars, religion doesn't belong in Government, I don't give a rat's ass who you sleep with, and I don't see why gays can't get married). I vote third party and if there's not third party candidate, I abstain with the naive hope that the politicians will notice somehow.

  • by Znork ( 31774 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @03:09PM (#21875860)
    "I learned that offshore outsourcing isn't to bad after all."

    And next year you'll have learned that offshore outsourcing isnt so cheap after all.

    Well, maybe not next year, but the writing's on the wall; between the lackluster performance of the dollar and the (almost) pan-asian economic overheating and inflationary meltdown, as well as the young sourcing partners growing up and aquiring their own managerial fat and rigidity, you'll find the balance shifting once again.

    Personally I've been overjoyed to have some foreign colleagues; suddenly there are actually people I can send work to when we are far too overloaded to do anywhere near all that needs to be done.

    "After this sort of ego bruising they are more ready to accept modern and mature practices."

    Yes, well, what goes around comes around. Dont expect temporary phenomena to last forever; you may find yourself in the position to have to kiss and polish those egos once again, so if I were you I'd concentrate a bit more on the positive aspects rather than gloating and fostering discontent.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @03:28PM (#21876010)

    What has changed is a decrease in our earning power.... I still see tons of Hummers, Expeditions, Navigators, Armadas....

    What has changed also is income disparity. A huge change. $10 million/yr CEOs of public companies didn't exist 20 years ago; shareholders wouldn't have put up with it. The CEO or even the $500K physician isn't going to give a damn about fuel prices, even at $100/gal, and if they want a Hummer they'll get a Hummer (unless they are sensitive to being perceived as crass and politically incorrect, but most aren't - they feel their money entitles them to waste 100x more earth resources than the average person). The market for multi-million dollar mansions is hotter than ever, in constrast to the housing and mortgage collapse that the rest of us are in the middle of. Meanwhile, even computer programmers are barely eking out what used to be considered a lower-middle-class existence in terms of the current value of the dollar.

  • Re:Emotion (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Fantastic Lad ( 198284 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @04:14PM (#21876304)
    I am still dealing with the fallout from realizing I have been an emotional equivalent to a black hole up until now.

    This is happening to a lot of people these days, men in particular. --My own version of it, (and I always thought I had a solid connection with my emotional side), happened during the Katrina disaster. I was utterly and unexpectedly overwhelmed with emotion for several days to the point of not being able to function socially at all; it was like I could feel the fear and pain of all those people all at once. --In the past, I would easily have been able to observe such a massive tragedy with detached interest. I was really stunned by the whole episode. Something was blasted open inside me, and it took most of six months to figure out how to live with the new awareness. I don't doubt that it was a good thing, but it was a very difficult process to go through!


    -FL

  • by KPexEA ( 1030982 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @04:44PM (#21876558)
    Penn & Teller's Bullshit! was very eye opening in regards to their episode on Recycling. Up until that point I thought that recycling was actually doing some good but after watching the show it looks like a lot of it is worse for the environment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit [wikipedia.org]!
  • by moosesocks ( 264553 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @04:46PM (#21876572) Homepage

    How is that hypocritical? Paul's message is not that we need less government everywhere (though that helps), but really that we need to go back to the way the country was before the Civil War, where the Federal Government had less power, and the States had more power.

    For a parallel, look at modern Europe. France, Germany, Italy, etc. are all separate countries with vast differences between them, but they're all in a Union where they share the same currency, have free trade, and do some things together. This is more like what America started out as, and should return to. If California wants to create a massive welfare state, that's fine: they can tax their own citizens to pay for that silliness. Meanwhile, those of us in other states shouldn't be forced into paying for their problems.


    There has been *one* War within the US in the past 232 years, which came as a result of irreconcilable differences arising between the states. Given the way that most state governments work these days, I'd be terrified of handing over even *more* power to them. Europe's had too many wars to count in that same period.

    Likewise, the articles of confederation (enacted before the US constitution, which gave the states an extremely high degree of autonomy) proved to be a complete and total failure. Most US states are simply too small to effectively handle their own affairs, and the differences between the states aren't nearly as the right wing would have you believe. The "culture wars" are a relatively new phenomenon, and for the most part, are completely artificial.

    Even the EU strongly encourages their member nations to look out for the welfare of the other nations within the union. EU citizens wishing to attend university in another EU state can typically do so, and pay virtually nothing. This isn't even possible in the US at present, where students are either forced to deal with the education system in their own state, or take out massive loans to attend an out-of-state, or private university.

    Perhaps a better (but more radical) proposal would be to create a third tier of government at a regional level to better bridge the gap between state and federal governments.

    Still, I don't think that the states are in *ANY* condition to begin managing their own affairs. Ron Paul's vision for America *WILL* result in another civil war at some point down the line.
  • Re:Ron Paul (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Fantastic Lad ( 198284 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @04:49PM (#21876596)
    I like Ron in that he's honest and earnest. You don't see very much of that in politics these days. However, I don't care for his conservative take on healthcare. That doesn't make sense to me.

    The way I see it, one of three things can happen. . .

    1. He'll be elected, and it'll be some form of, "Meet the new boss".

    2. He'll be another also-ran, soon to be forgotten.

    3. He'll board a small plane.


    -FL

  • Utter Rubbish (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Khomar ( 529552 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @05:13PM (#21876786) Journal

    Ron Paul has repeatedly said that some of his personal heroes are Martin Luther King Jr and Ghandi -- very odd choices for a white supremacist. He also said in an interview [washingtonpost.com] that he would consider someone like Walter Williams, a black economist, as his running mate.

    The article posted has long since been dismissed as the writing of a ghost writer that was subsequently removed from his staff. His public life of service has shown no other evidence of any racism beyond this single article from the early nineties as was covered in Free Market News [freemarketnews.com]

    From that article is the following quote by Ron Paul:

    The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity. In a free market, businesses that discriminate lose customers, goodwill, and valuable employees - while rational businesses flourish by choosing the most qualified employees and selling to all willing buyers. More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct what is essentially a sin of the heart, we should understand that reducing racism requires a shift from group thinking to an emphasis on individualism.

    It really is amazing that in 10 terms in congress and being in the public spotlight for 30 years, this is the only thing that the media can dig up against Ron Paul.

  • by Ranger ( 1783 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @06:15PM (#21877154) Homepage
    I predict it will hit 5/gal by the end of 2008.

    I've been wrong almost every time in guessing how much gasoline will rise. I think the prices will depend on the political situation going into November. Did you notice how gas prices stabilized and remained relatively low during the 2006 election? I know people say the prices weren't manipulated, but it sure seemed to me the oil companies did what they could to help the Republicans win in 06. It didn't help. So unless there is some kind of major disruption I suspect we may see a repeat of the Fall 2006 pricing.

    I've no doubt it'll hit $5 USD/gal at some point in the future, but I don't think it'll be 2008. Supply and availability are going to be the real determining factors. Until there are shortages and long lines people will grumble but they won't be up in arms.

    I predict gasoline will eventually be sold per liter as prices go up and that car mileage will be listed in kilometers per gallon. It won't change anything but it'll be an attempt to obfuscate the real costs.
  • by kklein ( 900361 ) on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @09:22PM (#21878346)

    I'm an academic, and the single biggest reason is that I'm a workaholic and if the place didn't almost shut down for 4 months of the year, I'd work myself to an early grave. As it is now, though, I work my ass off 8 months of the year, and 4 months of the year I'm blessed and cursed to be able to get almost nothing done (well, nothing that requires the organization). It's been very good for my health and mental well-being, if not necessarily for my wallet.

    Over the last summer break, I spent about a week staying with my friends who work at a major IT company as developers. I saw their lives, and was envious. They make a lot more money, they come home earlier, and it is virtually impossible for them to work at home, so they don't. "Damn," I thought, "I really did pick the wrong career." But then I noticed something: I was staying at their house in a different country from where I live for a week, and that was just one week out of about 7 or 8 in a row that I didn't have to report to work. I was still getting some things done on the laptop, but that had much more to do with my workaholic nature than necessity. "Damn," I thought, "maybe I picked the right career after all."

    The point I'm trying to make is that you are ultimately in control of your time. You are. Really. It's your time. Your life. If you feel that you are losing it to a company, and the money isn't worth it, you need to change gears. It's not their fault. It's your fault for doing it.

    Now, this decision will most certainly result in a decrease in income. It may mean you aren't buying a house (if you're in the US, this is a terrible time to buy anyway--wait for the market to really crash first--and if you already bought, you have my sympathy), it may mean that vacation is usually spent on the couch instead of on the beach. It may mean you will be hanging on to your old car and just keeping it going until it dies. It means you don't get the "American Dream" kind of life people in my generation seem to somehow feel is necessary. BUT, you will get your life back.

    Depending on who you are as a person--whether you value money or time more--this may or may not be a viable lifestyle choice. But the choice is there.

    Finally, however, I want to address this idea that we work harder than our elders. I think that is really only the case on Leave it to Beaver. In talking to my parents, both of their parents worked. Mom got home earlier than Dad (schoolteachers in both cases), but Dad (a lawyer on one side and a shopkeeper on the other) got home late. Anecdotal evidence, I know, but I really think that we have too rosy a view of our elders' lives. In my own parents' case, they run a business that is attached to the house, so they were around a lot, but were also usually working. When my dad had to go out, which was/is almost every day, he didn't come home until late (8-9). He also gets called out to truck wrecks (independent insurance adjuster specializing in the hard stuff that companies hire a third party to handle) in the middle of the night fairly regularly, and might not come shuffling back home for 18 hours, after dealing with cops, insurance companies, grief-ridden truck drivers, and the survivors of the family they just killed. That being said, there are down periods with little work and no money, and I grew up being pulled out of school during those periods to drive around the country and learn things. My parents basically made the same choice I did. Time is more important than money.

    Further, think of the Depression generation! They didn't work because there wasn't any. Lots of time, but absolutely no money. If they did work, it was long hours in a dusty field. And before that? The agriculture- and manufacturing-based economy. The ag business is still crazy hours (grew up in a little town--had lots of friends who were farm kids and grew up working), and the only reason manufacturing went to 8 hours a day is that in the 20s factories were literally working people to deat

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 01, 2008 @10:03PM (#21878562)
    I changed my mind on the way I influence things:

    I am lving in a foreign Asian country. Whether from my upbringing or my natural principles, I believed in being very passive
    in terms of how I influence a foreign culture. My original point of view was that I should fully respect ALL
    of the foreign culture as a macro entity, and never complain about or try to change things at a micro level. This is very important IMO. You should not take yourself too seriously in life. We are all tiny grains in this universe. But, we should remember that we are part of mankind ( a sligtly bigger grain in the universe) and that our everyday decisions and influences do add up each day. Collectively if something changes, it is often as a result of the efforts of many people - not just one person. I believe in people power so long as we are not all sheep. We should be able to lead ourselves. My point is that we have to be careful with our influennces and desire for change:

    My original point of view was that 'If I change things at a micro level, then maybe I will affect the whole macro entity.'

    My point of view has changed a little. I still believe it's wrong to try and influence or change someone elses culture,
    but you should complain or influence things a little. This is because if we don't, we deny our human spirit.

    It's natural for a spirit to want to participate, and be involved in the society they live in as a minority.

    So, I am a minority resident in S. Korea. Now, I use my voice a little more.
  • by svunt ( 916464 ) on Wednesday January 02, 2008 @12:51AM (#21879464) Homepage Journal
    Perhaps (no, definitely) off topic, but I've really been wanting to ask the /. crowd...I know Ron Paul votes consistently, and is a constitutionally based voter, etc, and after eight years of Bush, integrity is very important, but how did a far-right dude who doesn't believe in evolution, and wants to cut ALL federal funding for the sciences get so damn popular with nerds? I'm in Australia, so I hope he wins, because I want to see the US go back to looking after its own problems rather than creating them elsewhere, but if I were in the US, I'd be terrified of this guy.
  • by shanec ( 130923 ) on Wednesday January 02, 2008 @01:00AM (#21879508)
    Engineers have lost control of their IT departments. In truth, this might have happened long ago, but as the topic suggests, I've just come to that conclusion this (now past) year.

    For a long time now MBA's, and management types in general have struggled to understand, cut costs, and in general quantify something that is not quantifiable. After all, if a system administrator does their job correctly, you never know they're doing their job at all.

    So the management types end up coming up with obtuse questions for which they expect hard answers. How many trouble tickets a day should a system administrator be able to close? Why didn't you have a "satisfactory" response from the end user when you closed the ticket? What justifies "spending extra time" on a problem? Why wasn't something done to prevent the problem?

    These are all arbitrary questions that can't be answered with simple solutions. More importantly, these are all arbitrary questions that can't be quantified. They don't fit well into a spreadsheet. They don't take into account being woken up in the middle of the night, and prodded for an answer. They don't take into account carrying a pager 24/7. They don't take into account someone saying something to you in a hall way, and expecting you to remember it like your life depends on it. And they certainly don't take into account the basic fact that computer administration is an art, not a science.

    So the MBA's of the world have started "laying down the law." Everyone must start work at 8AM, no exceptions (we don't care when you were paged). You must track all of your time spent through out the day (no potty breaks for you!). You must close X amount of tickets a day. You must carry on doing the work of the department, even though we have cut half the positions in an attempt to bolster the management bonuses. You must keep abreast of all current changes in technology, in your personal time. You will be expected to be able to answer about any new technical matter, but you can not spend work time learning about it, unless it was approved in writing first.

    System administration in the way that I know it, having grown up in Bell Labs (literally), will go the way of the computer operator. There will be set shifts. There will be a union. There will be no creativity. Everything will be done in an organized fashion, and signed in triplicate.

    No exceptions.

  • by Wordsmith ( 183749 ) on Wednesday January 02, 2008 @02:00AM (#21879780) Homepage
    People tend to treat culture as if it's some holy system deserving of respect. Culture is a label slapped on the status quo of an arbitrarily defined subset of people at any given point - and is constantly in flux. If your own sense of logic and decency say something's right, then try and convince others - those others are people to, and as such are capable of deciding whether they want to incorporate your ideas into their lives. Don't worry so much about contamination. It's really a non-issue.

    That being said, there's nothing wrong with respecting the existence of traditions and subjective preferences - but there's also nothing wrong with introducing your own previously foreign experience into the mix.

    Of course, it sounds like you're beginning to come around to that view. Don't be afraid to go all-out with it.
  • Re:Ron Paul (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Fantastic Lad ( 198284 ) on Wednesday January 02, 2008 @02:32AM (#21879908)
    I think we should expect more from our politicians - like being honest and sane.

    Agreed. His up-front position on health care and indeed, his belief in a totally mercantilist approach to running a country is crazy. I've visited a number of states which allow the spirit of competition to dictate even simple things like zoning laws, and I must say having seen chemical factories leaking across the street from kindergartens and gun shops in largely residential areas offered just about the most intensely insane experience I've ever had the misfortune of living through. --And the people living there for the most part didn't even have the perspective to realize that the reason the levels of fear and anxiety, (which were right through the roof by contrast to where I live in the Great White North), were directly related to this sort of misguided belief in some kind of half-baked Darwinism. The reason we don't live in the jungle anymore is that we have evolved the ability to make rational decisions and to set order in places of chaos. If people refuse to use their ability to do this, then maybe they deserve to revert to living like savages in a kill-or-be-killed jungle environment which ruthlessly punishes everybody but that very small percentage occupying the top rung of the food chain. --And people wonder why there are such high rates of violent crime in the U.S. Seemed pretty obvious to me. I was glad to get out of there.

    If somebody grafted Ron Paul and Michael Moore into one politician, then maybe there would be some hope for the U.S., but as it stands, it's just heartbreaking to see Ron Paul as the one guy in the running who is sparking real hope in so many people.


    -FL

  • by argStyopa ( 232550 ) on Wednesday January 02, 2008 @10:46AM (#21882020) Journal
    "I changed my mind about wanting to live in the US in 2007. It seems worth seriously considering a move to another country or even another continent. I'm thinking about vacationing in London. Canada and the UK don't seem like bad ideas right now. There's more wrong with this country than its president."

    Meh; talk is cheap. Let me know when you actually move.

    I used to think like you do, about how much is farking wrong with this place and how other countries seem to 'get it' better than we do on so many issues. But then working for an international megacorp, I *do* have the fortunate opportunity for extended stays in other countries from Sweden and Germany to the Far East.

    Now, with a little more maturity, I'll continue to insist that very, very many things in the US are messed up, but I'd still rather live nowhere else. I own a 3400 sq ft, 5 bedroom home (roughly 340 sqm for you Continentals) for which I paid (in 1993) $105k, on the edge of a major metro area. Everything I could possibly want - from clear, drinkably clean fishing lakes, to ample farmer's markets with locally-grown produce (4-5 months of the year anyway), major sports, drama, and commercial venues are all within 1 hours' drive (sadly, no mountains tho). Within 4 hours drive I can be in a wilderness where I have camped without seeing another person or even a contrail of an aircraft for more than a week.

    And yes, our government's screwed up. But there aren't any places in the world that I can think of where a government is MORE restrained from accomplishing anything than here, and the longer I live, the more I see that is a great thing.
  • by JavaRob ( 28971 ) on Wednesday January 02, 2008 @03:56PM (#21886158) Homepage Journal

    First point: secularism is no guarantee of liberty. Religion is no guarantee of tyranny... I remind you that this country was first settled by Puritans.
    Other posts are already discussing the Puritan thing, but I might also point out that it's very interesting to note the level of religiosity among the "founding fathers" who had so much influence on what made America successful. Remember, this was still decades before Darwin was even born (so the other option to "God made the creatures" was basically "dunno"), in a country including a whole lot of people who were more or less driven to the US because of their die-hard religious views.

    Lotta those weird "deist" types in there, somehow.

    Ron Paul being a creationist is completely irrelevant to his ability to be a good president. Religious views have no bearing on one's ability to run the country.
    It's not the *only* thing to check when making a political decision, but it's still extremely relevant.
    Have you noticed how um, nonexistent GWB's rational thought processes are? Easy decisions, sure -- go with the gut! And it works. Hard decisions... uh, pray? And then go with the gut? Or just listen to my buddies?

    I don't know how sophisticated Ron Paul's critical thinking is, but honestly -- any creationist has to have a serious disconnect with the real world. This is the guy we want dealing with the many science-heavy issues we have to deal with? This is the guy we want leading the US foreign policy (dealing with lots of other countries full of, holy shit, heathens and infidels)?

    Sorry, but no. When he blogs about "churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance", that sounds like his religion might affect his politics.

    And it's slim pickings for rational candidates nowadays, but it'd be pretty hard to convince me the Creationist is the bright spark among them.
  • Ted Stevens (Score:3, Interesting)

    by volpe ( 58112 ) on Thursday January 03, 2008 @07:51AM (#21892846)
    It feels like there's nothing we can do to stop idiots like Ted Stevens from getting elected.

    Did I miss something about Stevens? Did he say something outrageous like like propose logging every packet in order to help fight terrorism? I mean, it can't just be the "series of tubes" thing, right? Look, I like Jon Stewart as much as the next guy, probably more so, but continuing to make fun of him like that just seems to make it apparent that there really wasn't all that much to make fun of. I mean, the guy uses a perfectly reasonable analogy to convey the point that the Internet itself is merely a conduit of information, and is not responsible for the "dump-trucks" full of crap that are congesting it, and all of a sudden he becomes the poster-boy for elderly computer illiteracy? I don't get it.

    Does anyone here really think Stevens was under the mistaken impression that the Internet is physically implmemented in the form of hollow cylindrical tubes through which we push little capsules containing IP packets written on paper, like at the drive-thru teller at the bank? Can I get a show of hands? Anybody?

    Please, please, please tell me it's not just the tubes thing.

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