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Science Documentaries for Youngsters? 383

An anonymous reader writes "My 7-year-old daughter is asking some interesting questions, such as, 'How did everything get created?' I've explained, in general terms, our family's non-religious views on the subject of creation and the Big Bang. I'd like to find some documentary videos geared to this age level that may explain better these concepts and theories. I've found a few PBS specials online - Stephen Hawking stuff - but they seem to be geared for young adults and older. Does anyone have recommended titles that might be better geared to children of this age bracket?"
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Science Documentaries for Youngsters?

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 04, 2008 @10:34AM (#23291424)
    Any of the "Once upon a time..." by Albert Barillé are great.
    Sure, some are a bit outdated and a bit wrong here or there,
    but all in all, they're the best for kids that age.
  • by anmida ( 1276756 ) on Sunday May 04, 2008 @10:36AM (#23291438)
    When I was growing up (which wasn't that long ago, really), my parents got me a Ranger Rick subscription as a very little kid. Then they got me Kids Discover which I read until I was 9 or so, I think. National Geographic is also really good, and Scientific American, for when she gets a little older. In addition, the public library should have some nice glossy picture books about the planets and other things. I would recommend that she read as opposed to watching TV; she'll become a better reader and you can really get lost in books, stare at the pictures and let your mind turn on all of it - take your time as opposed to being rushed along as films too often do. But films are good too :)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 04, 2008 @10:53AM (#23291580)
    My wife and I were just at a talk yesterday in Austin TX given by the author of Parenting Beyond Belief [parentingb...belief.com]. Much more entertaining and insightful than the dry "freethinker" lecture I was sort of expecting. He mentioned Carl Sagan's Cosmos series, and also talked at length on how to prepare your kids for the inevitable playground encounter: "your parents don't believe in God? They're going to HELL!"
  • Kids can handle it (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mrfantasy ( 63690 ) <mike&chairthrower,org> on Sunday May 04, 2008 @11:21AM (#23291822) Homepage Journal
    My kid's 4 and a half and really enjoys any science documentary we throw at him, and seems to have decent retention. This is a problem when we were traveling recently and all we could find on the TV was a documentary on the ancient Aztecs and their propensity for human sacrifice. When talking about hearts later, he remembered that the Aztecs took out people's hearts. So you have to be careful, but any kid who's naturally inquisitive will probably enjoy any fact-based programming geared for any age, with a thoughtful parent to help interpret they parts they might not understand.
  • Re:Beginnings. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Geno Z Heinlein ( 659438 ) on Sunday May 04, 2008 @11:22AM (#23291826)

    Please do not look to "The Matrix" for spiritual guidance. You won't find anything worth a damn there.
    I respectfully disagree. The Matrix asks a lot of important questions about creation, existence, and perception that every individual absolutely must deal with if they are going to choose their place in the world around them, if they are genuinely going to decide to even be an individual. The Matrix is our generation's telling of Allegory of the Cave, which is the root of all Western European thought about both will and epistemology.

    That's worth a big damn.

  • by Qbertino ( 265505 ) <moiraNO@SPAMmodparlor.com> on Sunday May 04, 2008 @11:35AM (#23291926)
    I don't know your daughter and wether she is a potential savant or not. Asking such questions at the age of 7 could indicate that. However, it is more likely that she's just like any other child. Meaning that at about the age she is in, normal healthy children ask questions for the sake of asking questions. They practice the task of asking. You can observe this when they repeat a question or when they inmediately follow up with another question without really pondering your last answer that much. Because they really can't fathom what you're saying actually. It's the general process of Q&A their interested in. That doesn't mean you should lie - just stick to answers that are low on the abstract and rich on images. And - honestly now - screw any conserved media. A wildlife documentary around the age of 10 or so every once and a while is ok - but it's not before well into teenage that children can really gain knowledge from these. Other means of education are far more important before that.

    By far the biggest screwup of modern western education - with huge, seemingly unrelated consequences for society - is that it treats kids under teenage and even teenagers far to much like intellectually fully developed grown-ups. Appealing to pure reason and logic in a 7-year old does more damage than good, with consequences that show up far later in life (lack of will and motivation, concentration problems, undeveloped social skills, restlessness, etc. - we geek kids of the 80ties know all this). If here questions are of the usual nature (her *praticing* the process of questioning!) then see it as a game and follow along, even if it turns into seemingly strange circular Q&A sessions. Ask her repeating questions in return yourself - she's praticing the act of questioning, the subject hardly matters ("Where do you live?" and a few other related questions repeatadly asked and answered, is a classic for this sort of thing). You'll actually notice that this questioning goes away after a while and comes back during the teenages if it was dealt with appropriately at younger age.

    The first specs of true scientific interest come at the age of about 9. And then a trip to the library or the zoo or a science park and you sticking to personal and live explainations (that needant be all that scientifically detailed) of real phenomenon (weather, "Where do rivers come from?" "How can a car drive?", etc.) are all she needs. And don't worry - if you give her the right kind of education at the right time, she'll be a bright kid all by herself when her intellect and her strength for own reasoning fully awakes. Usually at the age of adolescence - as parents all around the world know very well. In fact, her reasoning will be far more healthy and her own if she doesn't get intellectually challenged to early in life. And it will be supported by a healthy own will, if she has the correct treatment as a child to look back on. There are other things children need to develop before they can develop a healthym intellectual reasoning. It's for that exact reason that the question "What would you like?" often is totally misplaced towards a toddler or small child.

    And FYI: Yes, that is an essential conclusion of waldorf education. An educational methodology sometimes considered heretic by other educational trends. I've found it to be spot on. Make you own experiences, but do your and your sibling a favour and don't burry your kid in all kinds of media to early before you know what's really going on.

    My 2 cents as a father of a 10 year old daughter.
  • It's a bit advanced for a seven year old, but she won't stay seven forever. It's just what the title says: "A Cartoon History of the Universe". It's printed rather than video.

    This combines basic cosmology (a bit dated now), some palentology, and mainly history or the world. One does need a pretty good vocabulary to handle it, but it's good.

    Most of it originally came out as comic books (black & white only), but it's been rebound into some fairly thick books. (If you want, at the end of each section there's a bibliography of his sources, so you can check him for accuracy.)
  • by evanbd ( 210358 ) on Sunday May 04, 2008 @12:15PM (#23292216)

    WP should not be used as source material. That does not make it useless. The same is true for any encyclopedia.

    WP is an excellent resource for several things. It provides a good overview of a subject. Often, if you're only somewhat knowledgeable on a subject, it can fill in some gaps in ways that are obviously not horribly wrong. For example, I've learned a lot of math on WP -- I can follow the derivations, and see their correctness independent of any other source, but I couldn't produce them on my own. This is, obviously, a limited case -- especially for a kid.

    The best thing to use WP for, once you have a high-level grasp of a topic, is its bibliography. Nearly all articles contain at least a couple references; some contain quite extensive bibliographies. These are useful places to start your research. Need some data on global warming? I wouldn't get it from WP, but I would happily go to the WP page, find what appeared to be the data I wanted, find the citation for it, and then go read the referenced material.

  • by EmbeddedJanitor ( 597831 ) on Sunday May 04, 2008 @12:57PM (#23292610)
    TV programs, even documentaries, have to attract eyeballs for advertising revenue. Therefore entertainment has priority over education. Magic School Bus and Discovery Channel get dumbed down and hyped up until they're just shows with an "education" handle so that parents let the kids watch them. Perhaps you can find some reasonable BBC stuff, but I would expect not.

    As parent says, get the kid interested in books and magazines. Take them to public lectures. These are all typically higher quality than TV/video. Read up yourself and do some of that quality time stuff.

    I'm a homeschooling parent and spend a lot of time having discussions on a wide variety of subjects with the kids. Sure, this is a bit more effort (I have to read up on stuff I don't know about), but that gives you a second chance at an interesting education too.

    ... And don't give me that "I don't have the time" BS. It does not take a lot of effort to read up on stuff, instead of watching crap on TV. If you don't have the time to interact with kids, get yourself sterilized.

  • by YttriumOxide ( 837412 ) <yttriumox@nOSpAm.gmail.com> on Sunday May 04, 2008 @01:40PM (#23292958) Homepage Journal

    Yes, by all means, show her the scientific documentaries. But also let her read religious texts and go to church, as well as watch religious videos.

    NO! The problem with doing this is that without very good guidance from her parents, she is almost certainly not mature enough to weed out "snake oil salesmen", of which many religions are far too rife with.

    If you read some of my previous posts, you may find that I am quite staunchly atheist (I actually strongly believe religion to be a harmful mental delusion), but putting that aside, let's try a little thought experiment. Can you imagine a strongly Christian person accepting their daughter being exposed to Islamic religious texts and discussions on a "fair and equal level" to Christian philosophies? I think not! There would be too much fear about the child being "indoctrinated" in to that religion under "false pretences". In the same way, I put to you that the vast majority of religions will attempt to "indoctrinate" in this manner, and it is not responsible parenting to allow the impressionable mind of a child to be exposed to this without some kind of guidance.

    Now, if you're a strongly Christian family, you would probably want that "guidance" to be towards Christianity, however one day when I have the great joy of becoming a parent, I will "guide" my children towards science, logic and reason. I will go so far even as to point out my views on religion and if they get it in to their heads that there's a great mystical man in the sky, I'll happily debate with them to change their minds (as I will with ANYONE who brings it up and is open to discussion, whether they're related to me or not).

  • Actually... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by magnamous ( 25882 ) on Sunday May 04, 2008 @03:26PM (#23293824)

    I've explained, in general terms, our family's non-religious views on the subject of creation and the Big Bang.

    From what I understand, to explain things to her in terms of how things were created is still based on Judeo-Christian religion (in a sociological or historical sense). I've been listening to these lectures by Alan Watts on iTunes, and according to him, the West's view of the universe as an artifact (something that was created) is rooted in Judeo-Christian religion (the creator who created the creation). There's a long and involved explanation for that, but I don't recall it (nor do I wish to type it). The Hindus view it as a drama that is acted out, and Asian cultures (at least some of them) view it as an organism. So, to give an example that Watts uses, while it's very natural for your daughter to ask "How was everything created?" (given the culture she is growing up in), that would be a very strange question coming from a Chinese child. It would be much more normal for the Chinese child to ask "How did everything grow?"

    Just food for thought. I think it's very interesting.

  • Re:Symmetry (Score:3, Interesting)

    by otisaardvark ( 587437 ) on Sunday May 04, 2008 @03:56PM (#23293988)

    In fact I can't really see anyone being interested in the daily routine of scientists at Fermilab...

    Seventh-graders have demonstrated that you are completely and utterly wrong [fnal.gov] .

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