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Digitizing Old Magazines? 222

"I have a lot of old video game magazines, they're nice for playing 'classic games' because a lot of classics are impossible without the manual, and hard without a magazine (the magazine obviously negates the need for a manual usually). But they'd get damaged with a flatbed scanner, and digital cameras are hard to set up right for capturing old magazines. I know that old documents are digitally archived with very high-res cameras..." So, the question is, what is the best way to capture all the information in old magazines in digital format? Does anyone have a home-built rig taking after the angled-pair-of-scanners setup that Project Gutenburg uses?
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  • by btempleton ( 149110 ) on Saturday July 05, 2008 @07:05PM (#24070419) Homepage

    Ok, you're going to hate me for saying this, because you feel they are collectors items, but really, they are just manufactured items made of bits.

    So cut off the spines with an industrial paper cutter and put them through a sheetfed document scanner. Get over your attachment to paper.

    If it's a special magazine that was signed by somebody or is rare, I could see keeping it. But otherwise it's a printout. The real value is in the information.

    Now alas, these are probably copyrighted and can't be shared. If this were not the case this becomes a no brainer, because the "valuable" "original" would stay locked on your shelf, and the digital copy would provide value to many. It would be a strange devotion to the magazine to want to deprive so many of access to it in the name of preserving its "essence."

    Scanners like the Internet Archive has are great, but they are expensive, and expensive to operate. As a result, fewer documents get scanned, and that's the tragedy, not the loss of the spine of a magazine.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 05, 2008 @07:12PM (#24070467)

    I Use a Plustek OpticBook 3600 Plus scanner.
    It allows scanning a book without forcing it flat.

    The scanner itself is great, but be warned, the software is infuriatingly buggy, even in the latest release. Luckily there are work-arounds.

    regards ........ Zim

  • by j_presper_eckert ( 617907 ) on Saturday July 05, 2008 @07:15PM (#24070487)

    Depending on the kind of binding which holds the spine together, I normally wouldn't hesitate to use a flatbed scanner to digitize them. Stapled mags are easier to work with than ones which are perfect-bound or have saddle-stitched bindings. From my POV, the collectibility of the analog original is irrelevant; all I'm after is the data itself, regardless of the physical container. As long as I accomplish a sufficiently high-res scan, I'm happy. I've occasionally removed staples prior to scanning or even sliced off the spines with an X-Acto knife. Of course I'd be far more gentle if the originals were not my own property. :)

    For magazines which are bound too tightly (or are too large or fragile) to easily fit onto a flatbed scanner, you may have to consider setting up a photgraphic copy stand. You'll need twin lighting sources on each side of the stand, angled downwards at 45 degrees. The stand should have a screw fitting to mate against the base of your camera body. Reflections from glossy magazine pages may have to be eliminated via use of a circular polarizing filter added to your camera lens. I'm not sure how you'd weigh down the edges of the mag, though...slabs of a transparent material such as lucite or plexiglass? I don't envy anyone who needs to go down this route to take digital photos of the mag pages.

  • Copy stand... (Score:2, Informative)

    by dalthaus ( 1130049 ) on Saturday July 05, 2008 @07:36PM (#24070659)
    You might want to investigate an inexpensive copy stand. Generally the base of the stand has a registration/alignment system you can use and the lights are set at a 45-degree angle to eliminate or minimize reflection. This will work best if the magazines are simple fold-and-staple binding. If they are perfect binding, you will have to break the spine so they will lay as flat as possible. The other thing you will have to do is cover the page you are photographing with a sheet of the cleanest glass you can get. But a word of caution here... no magazine will lay perfectly flat, so there will be some page distortion in the image. If you are going to do this (break the spine) you will be better off with a flatbed scanner which will cost considerably less than the stand and the four 250-watt lamps.
  • by bigbigbison ( 104532 ) on Saturday July 05, 2008 @07:37PM (#24070665) Homepage
    There are a lot of scanned in videogame magazines online. Do a search for the name of the magazine followed by torrent and you might find some of them.

    Computer Gaming World put up the first 100 issues in pdf form when they switched to Games For Windows Magazine. I know there is an effort (if they haven't already succeeded) to scan in every issue of Nintendo Power. There is a lot of other stuff out there too.

    Look around for them and it might save you the time of scanning them in yourself.
  • by axedog ( 991609 ) on Saturday July 05, 2008 @07:42PM (#24070691)
    Scanned back issues (legal) are available from http://www.zzap64.co.uk/zzuperstore.html [zzap64.co.uk] ALL back issues of Zzap 64, Crash, Commodore Disk User, Zero and lots of other 80s luvvlies!
  • He's making a fair use [copyright.gov] copy.
  • Re:fair use? (Score:5, Informative)

    by palegray.net ( 1195047 ) <philip DOT paradis AT palegray DOT net> on Saturday July 05, 2008 @08:25PM (#24070973) Homepage Journal
    No, no, and futhermore, no. We're not talking about the recording industry here (although they've been continuously defeated on fair use copies, along with the video industry). We're talking about making archival/personal use copies of printed works someone already owns, a practice that's been heavily tested in various academic and related arenas.

    No, you could not "easily lose that fair use argument" in a courtroom with regard to this situation. Now, if you went out and distributed copies of the material, you've broken copyright law and would be wide open to civil actions.

    Should you happen to continue to assert your position on this matter, cite supporting examples in case law.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 05, 2008 @08:34PM (#24071035)
    This is definitely the way to do it. I've scanned roughly 20,000 pages worth of textbooks in the last one and a half years. I don't know about the software being buggy, I mean it is, but not to the point of being a hindrance. I use the core ActionExpress software to watch the buttons on the scanner and save the images to a directory. I batch tweak all those images with XnView, then combine them into a pdf with Acrobat. Once in Acrobat, I do OCR then reduce file size.
  • by hadesan ( 664029 ) on Saturday July 05, 2008 @09:06PM (#24071269)
    warrior s,

    My wife is in the same boat as you - she had lots of slides (~3000) from her parents, lots of 35mm negatives (too many to count), and a bunch of photos (again thousands) from all different formats.

    I ended up buying her a Nikon Coolscan V ED for her to scan in the 35mm negatives she has and her parent's slides. She has been very happy with it. I already had an Epson 2450 flatbed scanner...

    She scans the slides, photos, and negatives while working on other projects in her office. The easiest tool I found for the photos is Adobe Photoshop CS (a bit expensive, but worth every penny - you could download a trial version from Adobe.) You put as many photos as can fit on your flatbed scanner (no need to straighten them perfectly), scan the photos, and then click on File --> Automate --> Crop and Straighten Photos - this will break up all the scanned photos into individual files, arrange them so they are straight, after which you can then edit and save each one.

    Someone else wrote some instructions at http://photoshop911.typepad.com/help/2006/01/automating_crop.html/ [typepad.com]

    There are probably some scanners where you can feed photos in - but some of the photos we have are irreplaceable (no negatives or copies.) We would not want to see them lost due to a scanner feed malfunction.

    Also, do yourself a favor, and make backups of the work that you do. You would hate to lose all that effort due to a hard drive failure.

    Best of luck!

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 05, 2008 @09:08PM (#24071277)

    Here is something which can help make your scans better. If you see ANY print through in your scans -- some parts of the image from the reverse side of the page coming through to your scan of the side you're scanning-- try this. Put a black piece of paper behind the page you are scanning, and flat against it. This will minimze the image from the reverse side of the page.

  • by Milkyman ( 246513 ) on Saturday July 05, 2008 @09:13PM (#24071313)

    you might try these guys,
    http://www.scancafe.com/works.php [scancafe.com]
    basically you mail them all your negatives (i think they take prints too) and they scan em in india, put em online and you can choose which scans to keep, then you get your originals back in the mail with a disc containing your scans.

  • by cranky_slacker ( 815016 ) on Saturday July 05, 2008 @10:56PM (#24072063) Homepage
    http://www.scanmyphotos.com/ [scanmyphotos.com]
  • by JasonB ( 15304 ) on Saturday July 05, 2008 @11:12PM (#24072155) Homepage

    I have used and been very happy with the bulk scanning service offered by Digital Pickle in San Francisco. There are other services like them, so take a look around.

    http://www.digitalpickle.com/

    You can see some of their work here:

    http://photos.buberel.org/p1001342731/?photo=907773107

    jason

  • by Kral_Blbec ( 1201285 ) on Saturday July 05, 2008 @11:29PM (#24072249)

    Or even the free irfanview has a batch process for scanning if you have the hardware.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 06, 2008 @12:49AM (#24072571)

    I doubt it. Look through the listings and you will quickly see that the only magazines bringing significant money are historically significant (1st edition Mickey Mouse), or signed copies. Run of the mill mags from 50 years ago will fetch approx. $10 each if it is a highly regarded title and you have a whole year set.

    Keep the mags for sentimental or personal value but not as an investment.

    Have you checked to see if they are already available in a digital format? I found two of my old favorites like this. One was available on CD from the publisher and another was available free on the web.

  • by that this is not und ( 1026860 ) on Sunday July 06, 2008 @01:10AM (#24072675)

    It yielded some nice "better-image-quality-than-original-photos" jpegs

    Well, not really. But this probably isn't the place to start a digital/analog imaging flameware.

    Simply put, you can't get a better image out of digitizing than you started out with. And silver-halide based photographic images have incredible high resolution.

  • by cheekyboy ( 598084 ) on Sunday July 06, 2008 @06:04AM (#24073605) Homepage Journal

    Try Artizen HDR

    http://www.supportingcomputers.net/ [supportingcomputers.net]

    It has great tools like PS, but also does 32bit HDR editing giving even better results, especially if you have a 16bit/r/g/b scanner.

    Enjoy.

  • by The Second Horseman ( 121958 ) on Sunday July 06, 2008 @08:59AM (#24074249)

    Minimum wage in the US (Federal) won't be $7.25 until next year. At it's inception in the early 70's, it wasn't indexed to inflation. If it had been, it'd be over $12 an hour. Some states set theirs higher than the federal and one or two are already a bit over $8. And on a "real" job, there are taxes - social security, medicare, workers comp, etc. come out of it. If you're paying someone $10 an hour, cash, they're essentially getting the equivalent of $15 or more on an over the table job. No benefits, which sucks, but if it's a part-time thing (like babysitting) someone's using to make ends meet or make a little extra money, it's not a bad deal.

    Sure, paying someone under the table isn't legal, but for small stuff it happens all the time.

  • by crashfortytwo ( 1196885 ) <moving0target@nOsPAm.gmail.com> on Sunday July 06, 2008 @09:23AM (#24074347)
    A friend of mine is in the same boat. He has thousands of slides from a career in the military. He discovered two methods for scanning them in bulk. One is a negative feeder for his scanner. It digitizes directly from the negative so you can scan in all the images on the negative at once. The other method he used was a specially designed framework for the slides themselves that allowed him to scan several slides at once. Both methods are still time intensive, but they're quicker than the one-at-a-time-method.

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