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What To Do With an Old G5 Tower? 417

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lunatic1969 writes "I've got an old G5 PowerPC tower that's sitting in a spare room not seeing much in the way of use. I'd like to stick a Linux distribution on it and maybe breathe some life back into it. I've got a few vague ideas — it might be a handy file server, streaming video for a security system, or simply just to have a spare box around. My question is therefore in two parts: First, are there any particularly creative projects or ideas anyone has for an old G5, and second and most important, which distribution currently offers the best support for this box?"
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What To Do With an Old G5 Tower?

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  • PPC Linux (Score:5, Informative)

    by worx101 (1799560) on Friday July 23, 2010 @07:39PM (#33009538)
    Yellow Dog probably has the best support, but you could always look at the PPC version of Ubuntu.
  • by alen (225700) on Friday July 23, 2010 @07:39PM (#33009542)

    personally i'd send it to China for "recycling" or just junk it or donate it. you'll get better performance buying a new iMac and virtualizing the G5. File servers are so last decade. just get an external hard drive and connect it to a TV all of which come with USB ports these days and play a long list of media files

    • (singing): "Put 'im in the bilge and make 'im drink it, Ear-lye in the morning!"

    • by h4rr4r (612664)

      Then you have to carry the drive around like some sort of cretin. File servers are more useful this decade than last, when I can store every DVD I have as iso and a format my smartphone can play.

    • by beelsebob (529313) on Saturday July 24, 2010 @03:11AM (#33011852)

      I couldn't agree more with this sentiment. The Powermac G5s all idle at around 150W, and most used about 600-700W under load. Left idle all year serving files it'll cost $150 a year just in electricity to run... All this for a slower machine than a MacMini, which doing the equivalent thing would use 10W.

  • Genius (Score:5, Funny)

    by binarylarry (1338699) on Friday July 23, 2010 @07:41PM (#33009562)

    I think I speak for all of us here on Slashdot when I say, porn file server running Linux.

  • retire it (Score:5, Insightful)

    by joe_bruin (266648) on Friday July 23, 2010 @07:42PM (#33009570) Homepage Journal

    A G5 tower is a monstrous waste of electricity with trivial performance in return compared to a modern machine. Its primary use these days is as a space heater.

    • Re:retire it (Score:5, Insightful)

      by jtownatpunk.net (245670) on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:05PM (#33009770)

      I'm glad somebody said it. The money you'd save on electricity in a year would probably pay for a little NAS appliance that barely takes up more space than the drive(s).

    • Re:retire it (Score:5, Informative)

      by je ne sais quoi (987177) on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:06PM (#33009780)
      Say what?! One of my older machines is a G5 dual proc, 2.7 Ghz. That's still a VERY respectable clock speed, it's 64 bit and the dual procs means it's still pretty fast. The submitter didn't mention what speed his was (I'm guessing slower) but depending on that, a G5 could very well be a useful machine. It's not like it's an Athlon or something that is both slow, 32 bit and single core.

      Since the G5 was designed for performance, it's not exactly a great file server chip though. But it's far from being a "space heater" as you say -- mine gets used every work day. As others have pointed out, either put linux on it, or put an older version of OS X on it. I still have 10.4 on mine because it was the last OS Apple produced that was streamlined for the PPC. However, now that Apple has stopped supporting it, I'll have to break down and put 10.5 on it. On other older machines though I have installed both pbbuttons and gtkpbbuttons which support a lot of of the media keys on the keyboard pretty well.
      • Re:retire it (Score:4, Informative)

        by the linux geek (799780) on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:17PM (#33009858)
        G5's aren't incredibly slow, but nor are they particularly fast. The clock speed bump over the G4 meant the loss of some performance per cycle, and the amount of heat those things put out is obscene. A reasonably clocked C2D or any Nehalem should be vastly faster than a G5.
        • by tyrione (134248)

          G5's aren't incredibly slow, but nor are they particularly fast. The clock speed bump over the G4 meant the loss of some performance per cycle, and the amount of heat those things put out is obscene. A reasonably clocked C2D or any Nehalem should be vastly faster than a G5.

          That must have taxed your brain to come up with this comparison. I'd slap Debian Sid on it, used it for distributed compiles, LLVM builds, development and basically learning the PowerPC architecture while running Computation Fluid Dynamics, FEA, etc. When it's sufficiently pointless one can use the Case and strip out the guts and build your own custom PC.

      • Re:retire it (Score:5, Insightful)

        by je ne sais quoi (987177) on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:17PM (#33009864)
        Another thing I'll point out is that debian includes binaries compiled for the ppc. I've never had any problems putting debian on ppc hardware. I would think Ubuntu would work as well, and as others have mentioned, yellow dog is still around. The days of needing a specialist distro for a ppc are long gone though.
      • > It's not like it's an Athlon or something that is both slow, 32 bit and single core.

        I have an Athlon XP 3200+ you insensitive clod!

        (Upgraded to an Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.6 GHz though :-) (Yes, o/c'd from the stock 3.2 Ghz on air)

      • Re:retire it (Score:4, Insightful)

        by DAldredge (2353) <SlashdotEmail@GMail.Com> on Friday July 23, 2010 @10:34PM (#33010764) Journal
        This $299 T110 from Dell will be much faster and use less power than the G5. http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/poweredge-t110?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd [dell.com]
    • Re:retire it (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Swampash (1131503) on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:08PM (#33009790)
      Agreed 100%. Have it recycled.
    • Re:retire it (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Rinikusu (28164) on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:08PM (#33009794)

      What utter nonsense.

      I'm typing this now via my Dual G5 2.3ghz powermac that is perfectly servicable. Running OS X 10.5, as well. For web browsing, hulu, ableton live + reason + native instruments, even gaming (world of warcraft, soon to be intel only, though). Everything I want to do, I can do on this machine. Would a new machine be more efficient and even do tasks faster? Yes and probably not because I'm user constrained when it comes to music production (for the most part). however, I'd still have to part with my hard earned cash I'd rather spend on drugs and alcohol than buy another machine where I wouldn't see any 'dividends' for many years down the road.

      • Re:retire it (Score:5, Insightful)

        by beelsebob (529313) on Saturday July 24, 2010 @03:18AM (#33011886)

        Consider that a bottom of the line MacMini is faster than your G5, and consumes 140W less power when idle, and 600W less power when under load. If you're not using your G5 much, you'll pay for the MacMini in 4 years by trashing the G5 now, if you *are* using it (and it sounds like you are), you'll pay for the MacMini in only 1 year.

    • by Kenja (541830) on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:09PM (#33009806)
      Sad, but true.

      I'd use it for a practical joke, will it with cement and put it outside with a "free" sign on the side. Sit back and watch the hijinks.
      • by TubeSteak (669689)

        I'd use it for a practical joke, will it with cement and put it outside with a "free" sign on the side. Sit back and watch the hijinks.

        Filling it with cement won't keep it from dissappearing.
        If you're serious about the lulz, you need to bolt it to an immovable object, then fill it with cement.

        Reminds me of the good old days when I superglued coins to the floor.
        It's the best entertainment you can get for a quarter.

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by Mr_eX9 (800448)
        The real fun is when they take it home and turn it on--the CPUs will melt the cement!
    • Re:retire it (Score:4, Interesting)

      by 0100010001010011 (652467) on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:34PM (#33010006)

      So turn it on when needed, but I wouldn't say it's a waste of electricity, considering it's already paid for.

      Apple has done a great job of making XGrid platform independent. If you code with Xcode it'll speed up your compile times. If you do any video rendering, it'll speed that up.

      Or toss OS X server on it and use it as a home server (if you continue to use OS X) or Debian

    • Re:retire it (Score:5, Informative)

      by Blakey Rat (99501) on Friday July 23, 2010 @09:06PM (#33010216)

      Yup, I was going to post the same thing. I was using one as a file server until recently, when it occurred to me to check how much power it was consuming. Christ! For the cost of running that beast a few months, I could have just bought a cheap NAS.

      Basically, yah. It's useless, sell it to some sucker, buy a cheap NAS, and move on with your life.

    • by SuperBanana (662181) on Friday July 23, 2010 @09:11PM (#33010264)
      They may be power-hungry (idle power usage is 120-160w depending on the model/year; the later models were more power-efficient) but the G5's had a very impressive memory architecture. That and the G5 processor itself were designed to shovel bucketloads of data, mostly for media. Keep in mind that MacOS resumes from sleep mode very quickly, and power usage in sleep mode is nil. Not great for servers, but great for occasional work with media like photos or video.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by otuz (85014)

      Well, it depends on the model and how much you load it and how many cards you have installed.

      If it's a Single-1.8GHz 2004 model, it'll use 120W idle, 160W max and 552W fully-loaded max.
      If it's a Dual-2.5GHz 2004 model, it'll use 120W idle, 406W max and 604W fully-loaded max.
      If it's a Dual-2.3GHz 2005 model, it'll use 165W idle, 450W max.
      If it's a Quad-2.5GHz 2005 model, it'll use 185W idle, 550W max.

      The PSU itself is rated 600W and the fully-loaded means the most power-hungry pci-cards imaginable installed

  • G5s are power hogs (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sith (15384) on Friday July 23, 2010 @07:43PM (#33009576)

    Unless you just like the look of the G5, I think you'd be better off trying to get a little money for it on craigslist, and then buying/building a cheap x86 machine if you need a server. G5 power consumption is pretty crazy for the performance you get - best case, at idle, you're looking at 140w, but in reality it's much higher.

  • I've seen ubuntu on numerous triple-boot (os x / linux / windows) macbook pros. that's intel though. I don't know how good the open firmware boot selectors are (as opposed to RebelEFI) nor how good ubuntu drivers are for powerpc. But worth looking into.

    I have yet to run into a redhat installation on a mac. (referring to the article tag as such)

    I used a PMG5 for quite some time as a backup server (rsync) running OS X 10.4 Works very well for that, had lots of attached storage. FW800 FTW. But that got

    • by tibit (1762298)

      I don't have direct experience with PPC, but I've had decent results with Fedora on my Intel iMac. The only problem in the very beginning was lack of support from the Nvidia driver for the native screen resolution of the built-in LCD panel. That got fixed later. Apart from the inconvenience of having to keep up with binary Nvidia drivers, it ran like a champ. Used it to get through Doom 3 and Quake 4. Fedora supports PPC, and AFAIK should run on anything that would run OS X.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Larryish (1215510)

      At some point you have to listen to the voice of reason when someone says "it's OLD, time to REPLACE it", when you want to reply "but it still WORKS FINE".

      No, you don't.

  • Old Games (Score:5, Interesting)

    by painandgreed (692585) on Friday July 23, 2010 @07:52PM (#33009654)
    I'm keeping mine around to run games on, especially old classic games that have stopped working under newer versions of OS X or Intel chips. In addition to that, it might go to my photo studio as a browser and photo editing machine.
  • And my current plans are to strip the case and stick a updated system in.

  • by Culture20 (968837) on Friday July 23, 2010 @07:56PM (#33009688)
    Mac OS X Leopard (10.5.x). A group at work still uses a "cluster" of these for Final Cut rendering.
    I'm not sure about the Mac Pros, but I know that a lot of hardware support is missing in Linux for the iMacs, including (especially) temperature gauges for fan control.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by tibit (1762298)

      Adding to benefits of OS X 10.5: a lot of good open source is available from MacPorts. Heck, MacPorts still doesn't run a lot of things under Snow Leopard (wxWindows, native gimp, ...). So your results with MacPorts under OS X 10.5 running on G5 may well be better than with 10.6 running on Intel hardware!

  • by dangitman (862676) on Friday July 23, 2010 @07:57PM (#33009694)

    If you have the model with the PCI-X, rather than the PCI Express bus, then probably the optimum usage is putting it in a recording studio. There are some great rack-mount multi-channel (like 10 in, 10 out) audio interfaces by the likes of M-Audio which use the PCI bus, and have never been updated for PCI Express compatibility, so they won't work in a Mac Pro.

    The G5 has plenty of performance for audio work, and plenty of space for internal hard drives or RAID. This would really be the optimum niche for such a machine. For other purposes (file server etc), it sucks too much power and takes up too much space for its usefulness. But for audio work with dedicated hardware, it's perfect.

  • Wipe the drives, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever works.

    Then turn it off

    Then say 'its the new replacement for timothy and kdawson. They are now new and improved and no longer post stupid shit like a question that should have been asked on some random forum somewhere rather than on a site with a title of 'News for nerds'.

    Listen, its not 'help for newbies'. Its not 'your personal place to question people with an actual clue'.

    In reality though, just throw it away. You'll spend more in electricity in the nex

  • Debian (Score:5, Informative)

    by dandart (1274360) on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:01PM (#33009736)
    Debian's PPC port works well, I used it on an iMac G3.
  • Debian or Recycle it (Score:4, Informative)

    by dondelelcaro (81997) <don@donarmstrong.com> on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:04PM (#33009756) Homepage Journal

    You can rather easily run Debian on the thing with support for all of the non-architecture specific packages that you'd find on an equivalent machine running another architecture; I had quite a few of them around at one point.

    That said, you really should strongly consider not running the machine unless you have a very specific use for it; there are many lower powered machines which won't waste as much eneergy and will provide equivalent functionality.

  • by Doctor_Jest (688315) on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:05PM (#33009768)
    I have a dual 2.0GHz (the one with PCI-X instead of PCI-e) that I threw two giant HDDs in and turned it into a file server (time machine backup server) as well as a media center for my PS3 and 360. I rip my movies to that HDD and watch them via the uPnP stuff on my game consoles (when the mood strikes me.) It's great for storing music collections, backups and other fun items. :) Be a digital packrat.

    I still have Leopard on it, but that's just because it was the last OS I used before I re-purposed it. I could stick ubuntu on it later on, but there's nothing pressing me to do so just yet (I will eventually, I suspect.) It still sits in the cubbyhole of my super-cheap computer desk in my office, and I use the front USB port if I ever need to reboot it or anything (it's got an insane uptime...) heh. I use screen sharing in OSX to connect to it using my Mini or MBP. It serves up itunes to all my Macs (and mp3s/etc to my PS3/360)without any fuss or overly spastic noise. :) Well no more noise than any other tower PC I've had.
  • Two options... (Score:3, Informative)

    by phillymjs (234426) <slashdot&stango,org> on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:07PM (#33009788) Homepage Journal

    If it's a run-of-the-mill air-cooled model, just sell it. I just sold mine for $200 direct to someone (who I found on here, actually), but on eBay they were going for around $250 when I looked. Put the money toward buying/building a smaller, less power-hungry box if you're looking for something to do server duty. The person who pays your electric bill will thank you.

    If, on the other hand, it's one of the liquid-cooled models, keep it and definitely use it for something suggested in this discussion, but make sure you keep good backups-- Eventually it will develop a catastrophic coolant leak which will destroy it, and if you take it to an Apple Store they might just give you a free Mac Pro. [google.com]

    ~Philly

  • by astro (20275) on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:12PM (#33009830) Homepage

    We're using a G5 PowerPC tower to run all functions, including 24/7 streaming, of an internet radio station. Tons of modern software for it (including being able to live-stream after a compression and other audio manipulation chain)... I love Linux and use it on many machines for many purposes, but there's no reason to ditch OS X just because the machine is aging.

  • by Darth Sdlavrot (1614139) on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:14PM (#33009836)

    Seriously? Okay. The OS that probably works best with this machine is --- drum roll -- OS X.

    Without hardly thinking about it it'll serve files via AFP and SMB.

    Google will tell you how to enable the NFS server on it. (That's right, you don't need OS X Server.)

    Streaming video? If there's open source software for Linux to do this, there's a pretty good chance it'll build on OS X too.

  • by mory (1862992) on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:15PM (#33009842)
    Trade it in! Best Buy has an online trade in program where you can get cash or a Best Buy gift card. I got a $200 for mine. You fill out some stuff online, print a pre-paid UPS label, wait about 3 weeks. Same money you'd get from craigslist, none of the emails for interesting trades. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Electronics+Promotions/Online-Trade-In/pcmcat133600050011.c?id=pcmcat133600050011 [bestbuy.com]
  • I got a reconditioned Dell OptiPlex GX240 for £50 (from http://www.cambridgecomputershop.co.uk/ [cambridgec...shop.co.uk] ) and even though Firefox is a pain in the arse, Ubuntu 10.4 runs more than adequately on it.
  • That's what I use my old Mac for. Running OSX 10.5, Samba as my server. Clients are a PS2 with Free MC Boot and SMS, as well as a Wii with MPlayerCE. Unfortunately, the PS2 is far superior :(. The Wii is my backup for low-def shows, since it has a 2 TB harddrive attached. SABnzbd is a must. I also have NZBMobile on my Android phone. Never been happier with a weekend project.
  • by Stormwatch (703920) <rodrigogirao@@@hotmail...com> on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:20PM (#33009888) Homepage

    Gut it and use the case to build a modern PC, on which you can install Mac OS X by using Prasys' EmpireEFI. [prasys.info] Or just install whatever you want. The G5 may be outdated, but the case is still beautiful.

    • by RatBastard (949)

      Rip the guts out and out a Mini in there.

      • Rip the guts out and out a Mini in there.

        That'd be missing the point of a hackintosh (a powerful and expandable Mac for a low price) and the point of a Mac mini (a very small and discreet computer).

        Unless, of course, you intend to plug a bunch of external drives to the mini. Then it'd make sense.

  • by MarcQuadra (129430) on Friday July 23, 2010 @08:28PM (#33009946)

    I hate to say it, but the nature of CPUs has changed so much since the Core architecture that you might want to eBay that box and buy something like an Atom Nettop.

    The G5 and P4 were both pretty much the 'end of the line' of the idea that faster=hotter and more power-hungry.

    I keep a G4 dualie around for Mac work, but it's basically a space heater. I advise clients to decommission their P4-based systems ASAP. My dual-core Core 2 idles at under 60W, the G4 uses almost 200W and shows a lot less for it.

    Seriously, somewhere out there is a young web designer who wants that G5. eBay it. Take the money and buy a modern machine that -is- supported by the latest distros and won't silently cost you $10/month.

    I really like the Atom 330/ION combination, you get low-power, dual-core, accelerated video and 2D, and 64-bits of goodness. Sure, it's slower than a G5, but it's enough to saturate a gigabit pipe, or play 1080p h.264 via HDMI, browse, type, serve files or multimedia, etc. You could probably buy three matching ION-based nettops if you tossed the G5.

  • Guns to NRA members. It's an SAT question. Old Macs can never be disposed of. Stash 'em in the attic, in the cellar, in the closet . . . Macies just cannot part themselves from 'em. I live with a graphic artist, and any time I mention that she should get rid of those old Macs, I face an armed insurrection. Two G4 Towers stuffed away somewhere, and a "7600" (whaddever the fuck that is) in the attic.

    It really reminds me of some old geezer talking about his firearms:

    "Well, it might not look like much to

  • Frankly, you might want to just decommission this machine. Those G5 CPUs and the associated fans draw a lot of power and throw a lot of heat. Replacing my G5 with a Mini (as a file server) produced a negligible drop in performance as a file server (OS X Leopard Server) by using FW800 drives with hardware RAID instead of SATA drives with MacOS X Software RAID. But the temperature in my home office dropped by a couple of degrees once I turned that G5 off. (It tossed an amazing amount of heat, even when it

    • by h4rr4r (612664)

      How are you doing raid on the mini?
      Or is this more a file losing server than a file hosting server?

  • My 9500 is still hard at work, making midis and um... doing... Photoshop 3.5? The 500Mhz G3 processor upgrade really helps with heavy duty tasks like web browsing. Not to mention all of my mission-critical HyperCard stacks!
  • GIMMIEGIMMIEGIMMIE! btw, im a 22 year old college student...and my mac is a dual g4 500. I NEED A NEW MAC!
  • by djdavetrouble (442175) on Friday July 23, 2010 @09:02PM (#33010190) Homepage

    Get those CPU's working and those 5 fans cranking and it makes a pretty attractive space heater.
    I know that my Macpro with dual 8800GT's is in a pretty fair matchup against my 5000 btu air conditioner.

  • It is still a very capable machine and can run a currently supported OS (Leopard) as well as accepting a decent amount of RAM. If someone wants to get into Macs, a G5 tower isn't a bad way to do it as it is decently quick and most software is still compatible with PPC. It would give them at least a couple of good years desktop service and that would be far better than relegating it to being a server.

  • And send it to me.

  • As others have pointed out, the G5 is a power sink. If the power bill is of little concern, the box will work well as a media server, cd/dvd ripper, and everything else server. I've found both Debian and Ubuntu to be good matches for previous PPC systems, but at the moment I'm using OSX 10.5 to support a few favored apps for when my wife beats me to the Powerbook.

    If you wanted a server that went easy on the electricity, I'd research the delta - if any - between the G5 and a Mac Mini PPC/Intel.

  • Sell it (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Teese (89081) <beezel@NOSPAm.gmail.com> on Friday July 23, 2010 @09:13PM (#33010282)
    You'd be surprised what an older G5 desktop sells for on the used market. Any software dev that supports PowerPC apps needs testing machines, and dev boxes. Faster PowerPCs like G5s are in demand out there.
  • Sell it (Score:3, Insightful)

    by sqrt(2) (786011) on Friday July 23, 2010 @09:15PM (#33010292) Journal

    Sell it or maybe use the case, they look quite nice. That might take some work to get non-Apple components in it though (I'm not familiar with how they are set up internally). I was in a similar situation with an old P4 Dell. It's just not worth the noise, heat, and power drain for what essentially is a low intensity task. Serving files or even streaming video doesn't take that much power and G5s and P4s are just too inefficient for what you get.

    Sell it and get a Mac mini, or some other comparable low cost/efficient computer. Attach some external drives to it and you're done. Alternatively you could buy an Airport Extreme and a USB hub, plug in a few external hard drives and you have a much better and efficient home server.

  • by cyberzephyr (705742) on Friday July 23, 2010 @09:22PM (#33010336) Journal

    Fish tank

  • Gut it, Dremel out most of the front panel, and use it as a stylish designer aluminium box with handy handles, for holding newspapers and magazines.
  • Debian should work fine on it. I had the latest debian running on a G4 iMac.

  • Get two of them and a nice wooden board for the top. Build yourself a desk.

    You can even put a computer from this century on top of it.

  • Sell it to... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Jerry Rivers (881171) on Saturday July 24, 2010 @01:14AM (#33011506)

    ...a user on Al'Kabor.

    http://eqmac.com/forums/index.php [eqmac.com]

  • by Ilgaz (86384) on Saturday July 24, 2010 @03:07AM (#33011838) Homepage

    Geez, that is not a G3 Machine for God's sake. It is a workstation which is still used in production environments.

    It is supported via OS X Leopard which the Snow Leopard doesn't share the same name just because Apple couldn't find a new cat name, it is because Snow Leopard was _built on_ OS X Leopard. Just like Windows 7 vs. Windows Vista. Of course, Apple did "security/safari/itunes only updates" but, it was their own choice with lots of iPad/iPhone stuff going on. Also you wouldn't want "snow leopard" pure 64bit OS on it since on G5, "pure 64bit" really means "access more than 4 GB on a single application", not anything else. It is not x86 which had "bonus stuff" coming to that archaic architecture which wins because of popularity. I am telling these "karma suicide" things since if you actually go pure Linux, make sure you pick a 32bit distro as "pure 64bit coolness" may&will mean overhead and slowness.

    Unless developer is a complete "trendy type", he/she still supports OS X Leopard/PPC since there is no reason not to. Of course, I speak about "native OS X apps", not Adobe stuff coming with lots of Windows/X86 copy paste code. Look to top 10 downloads in various sites, they are all PPC/X86/Leopard+. Tiger has issues since it doesn't have kernel functionality in some cases, like the VLC (I heard it is about threads).

    For the people saying "massive heat", "power". G5 in Workstation configuration, idles 37 degrees celsius. How much does your Intel do? SJobs had very valid points, about future of Apple and how IBM G5 (PPC970) doesn't fit to it... But the "heat", "watt" etc. were all misunderstood, out of context. It doesn't fit to portable future (which was proved right), it happily runs on desktop, _still_ with IBM current AIX 7 (beta, massive specs) included.

    I owned a G5 1600, moved to Quad G5 2500 so I can keep on PPC arch for a long time (was proved right not to jump to those early Intels), I also got G4 Mini, there are more Intel Macs in house... I try so hard to get "impressed", like Wow factor, when you as Amiga 500 user, run Amiga 4000 first time... Can't yet... As Apple keeps doing crazy things like using core duo in this age, where i5/i3 exists, for a long time, I am staying. If Developers doesn't support? "My" vendors are real Mac software houses, you know the ones running XCode. They still support and unless a real necessity happens, they will keep supporting.

    It would be "fun" to suggest some nerd fantasy, some kind of joke but, really if you come to slashdot asking "what to do" with a 64bit RISC processor which, if it was IBM pSeries, would have current OS.... You get it... Check the websites/irc channels you frequent, someone really did some reality field distortion to you.

  • Creative studio (Score:3, Informative)

    by V!NCENT (1105021) on Saturday July 24, 2010 @06:17AM (#33012412)

    You could simply use it as a desktop. Linux has grown leaps and leaps and leaps forward and in many ways ahead of the Mac as a desktop, so read on.

    KDE SC 4.5 (about to be released in a few days/weeks) is leaps ahead of the Mac OS X 10.5 GUI. The only catch is that it is not minimalistic. If you want minimalism you have to pick Gnome with Gnome DO and set it to act like a docky. Put a Mac OS X wallpaper in place and install a Mac OS X theme. However KDE has focussed on more minimalism since KDE4 without sacrificing features.

    There is a KDE application for video editing that is unparalleled: Kdenlive: http://www.kdenlive.org/ [kdenlive.org]
    It slaughters Sony Vegas in functionality and is free of charge too. It may not be stable enough yet (version 0.7) so it might be a little bit of a bumpy ride at first.

    There is also a kick-ass music management application: AmaroK: http://amarok.kde.org/ [kde.org]
    It is compatible with iPods that are not of the latest generation (USB encryption crap)

    KDE SC's default webbrowser is Konqueror, which, since KDE SC 4.5 also has WebKit support.
    Google's Chrome is now also runnable on Linux.
    If you don't like the Google privacy stuff than search for the Iron browser (they took the Chrome's source code and stripped it from any call home functionality)

    For managing photo's, use DigiKam: http://www.digikam.org/ [digikam.org]

    Personal information management: KDE PIM

    For personal finance: http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/index-home.html [sourceforge.net]

    Office work isn't Linux' best aspect, so you could install OpenOffice.org. It is however the best Office Suit available for the PPC. It doesn't look all that good if your distro of choice hasn't supplied their own KDE4 integration into it.

    Now there are a lot of distributions, so what should you pick?
    The best and most stable KDE4 distro I have ever tried is Fedora. The default download option is with Gnone so search for a PPC KDE version. Because Fedora core is not using anything that is even remotely patented, you have to go to the RPMFusion website to add Adobe's Flash, MP3 and QuickTime codecs and whatnot: http://rpmfusion.org/RPM%20Fusion [rpmfusion.org]

    You can see pick your download here: http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/12/ [fedoraproject.org]
    The Problem I am seeing here is that the current version of Fedora is 13 and the latest PPC64 builds are for Fedora 12. This leads to a little outdated software (1 year).

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