Ask Slashdot: Resources For Identifying Telecom Right-of-Way Locations? 107
An anonymous reader writes "With threats to network neutrality, such as Verizon's recent lawsuit, I've been thinking of creating a map plotting all the locations where telecommunications companies currently use public lands via right-of-way laws. It seems that this would convey just how much telecommunications depends on public infrastructure. However, it's been difficult identifying where these locations are. Short of crowdsourcing, does anyone know of resources that could be used to create such a map?"
FOLLOW THE POLES !! (Score:2, Insightful)
They go right to where they need !!
DHS would like to have a word with you... (Score:5, Insightful)
Nontrivial; but... (Score:5, Insightful)
This isn't, unfortunately for you, a 'just fucking google it' sort of project; but the data should exist in some form.
Most municipalities have, as some appendage of their government(whether zoning and planning, some independent office, some weird outgrowth of the IT shop, whatever) a GIS service of some flavor(Newark, NJ purely for example [newark.nj.us]. What you can get online varies widely, and may or may not be utter shit; but it can generally put you in touch with somebody who actually knows something about the available GIS records for the area. No guarantee that they won't assume that anybody who cares about utility locations is a terrorist, or that inquiries are billed at $.25/poorly photocopied page; but it exists.
Similarly clunky; but also sometimes useful, would be the utility easement information that is(sometimes) recorded on property deeds, which are also a matter of (not necessarily well cataloged and easily searchable) public record.
Another option, in the states that they cover, would be to have a friendly chat with the folks at http://www.digsafe.com/ [digsafe.com] . This is some sort of public/private industry consortium thing designed to keep backhoes away from their natural food sources, namely fiber lines and gas mains. Since their entire purpose in life is locating vulnerable underground utility fixtures before somebody fucks them up, they should have a decent idea of where (underground only) utility lines run. I don't know how much persuading they would require to release information to somebody who doesn't fit their usual "Hi, I want to dig a big hole at 123 main St, is that a problem?" customer profile, though...
Re:Not that I'm aware of, and I've tried. (Score:5, Insightful)
Quite a while ago for work I was asked to verify where the circuits we're using come into our buildings to verify diverse entry - basically to reduce the chances of a 'backhoe day'. Even tho we were paying for the DS3s, the BEST I could get out of the major carriers was "Well, they go from your site, to (city X), to (city Y)."
The carriers just figure "It's need to know. And even tho you're paying $massive, you don't need to know."
Sorry, but this is dumb. All you need to do is call the "call before you dig" number and say you are planning on putting some very deep fenceposts all the way around the property. Within 72 hours you will have nice spray-painted, color-coded lines marking all underground utilities. Follow the lines to the building, then identify what wires are on the inside of the building for each entry point. If the telco guy shows up and only sprays one line, you know you have a problem.
Re:Each county. (Score:2, Insightful)
Not even close, those updated, electronic maps are only going to have more recent easements, say from the last 30 years, maybe more probably less depending on the county and it's resources. Most counties don't even know this information or at the very least won't pull it up for you, you'll have to 1) know how to look for the information, good luck and 2) dig through more documents than you've ever seen or will ever see in your entire life, also good luck. Most of that stuff is so old it's not in an electronic format other than microfiche to at least look up the document number so you can then pull the actual document that has been scanned in. Then you'll have to learn how to read the legal description of easement and hope you found the right one.
Oh an every county's system for document storage and retrieval is different.
"Public Infrastructure???" (Score:2, Insightful)
I appreciate that you used big words.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Rights of way are not "public infrastructure" and your use of the word "crowdsource" really means
"make it someone else's problem."
Why don't you, instead of delegated to "everyone else to solve my problem" of "things I misstate or
don't understand" just go away.
Slashdot editors... shame on you. This is a non-story about a guy who knows nothing trying to make
a story about nothing and hoping other people find something.
It's a non-starter.
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