Ask Slashdot: How To Make a DVD-Rental Store More Relevant? 547
smi.james.th writes "Here on Slashdot, the concept that older models of business need to be updated to keep with the times is often mentioned. A friend of mine owns a DVD rental store, and he often listens to potential customers walk out, saying that they'd rather download the movie, and not because his prices are unreasonable. With the local telco on a project to boost internet speeds, my friend feels as though the end is near for his livelihood. So, Slashdotters, I put it to you: What can a DVD store owner do to make his store more relevant? What services would you pay for at a DVD store?"
Hey Guys (Score:5, Funny)
My friend manufacturers and sells horse whips. With this trend towards horseless carriages he doesn't seem to sell as many as he used to. Does anybody have any ideas on how he can increase his business?
Re:Hey Guys (Score:5, Funny)
Perverts.
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Yeah, unless you have access to a time machine, I think DVD stores (of any kind) are not great ideas anymore.
On the plus side, after reading all these comments, you'll probably have enough observations about horses and automobiles to open a stale metaphor store. It's been only a few minutes and I've already spotted five.
Re:Hey Guys (Score:4, Funny)
Does he still do VHS tapes too...?
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Go check out Movietime Videos, in McMinnville, OR and tell to their owners. Part of it is figuring out how to keep in contact with and foster those people who still want the physicalness of the video store. Part of it is being in a vibrant small town with a dense-enough rural area (but not so dense as to have cable out there). Another part probably is its a college town. And their location works.
And yes, they have quite the catalog, too.
Believe it or not, they don't rent porn.
Almost worth it still for me to
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Re:Hey Guys (Score:4, Funny)
Tentacle p0rn.
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because movie tickets are incredibly high. 1500 yen approx $20(american) for 1 ticket. plus movie theatres arent are close to you as they are in america. so you often have to pay 500 yen or approx $7 for a train ticket to get there. so yours talking $27 dollars per person to see a movie. wait a while then goto geo (very close and affordable) and rent it for 350 yen for a new release or wait even longer and eventually get it for 100 yen for a weeks rental. rip it with handbrake and makemkv. why would i spend
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Population density would be my guess.
A single video store likely serves a much larger market of potential customers than the same one in the middle of sparsely populated suburbia.
The proximity of everyone and everything probably makes a video store in Japan no less competitive/convenient than Redbox kiosks in the US.
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"German DVD rental stores seem okay too."
That's because Germans are still reluctant to embrace that Credit Card thingie and without that you have to carry cash to a shop.
Re:Hey Guys (Score:5, Funny)
We're not connected to the same Internet, apparently...
Re:Hey Guys (Score:5, Insightful)
Same for physical DVD rental. Target those who don't just want to watch a film, but those who want to have a real life experience around it. Hold the equivalent of a book club, promote one DVD a week that all your members can rent for, say, 1 penny, then hold a weekly get-together to discuss the film. Promote the art-house side of things, quirky foreign films, all the things that are tucked away on the NetFlix submenus. Hell, why not, hold a singles evening once a month, there's plenty of single film nerds out there.
Re:Hey Guys (Score:5, Interesting)
Additional thoughts:
1. Game rental is still in its infancy online, and games are expensive. Get known for renting those.
2. Deliver! Someone might rather wait the 3 days for Netflix delivery of things that can't be streamed, but if you can get it there in 30 minutes or less you're in great competitive shape.
3. If you can solve the licenses, turn a section of the shop into an on-demand movie theater.
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1. Game rental is still in its infancy online, and games are expensive. Get known for renting those.
Probablly not a bad idea right now for an existing buisness looking to extend it's life but be aware that this may be a short lived strategy. The technology exists to require online activation (with limited activation counts and/or fixed link to an account), all it requires is the console vendors to choose to do so and your game rental buisness is screwed.
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Same for physical DVD rental. Target those who don't just want to watch a film, but those who want to have a real life experience around it. Hold the equivalent of a book club, promote one DVD a week that all your members can rent for, say, 1 penny, then hold a weekly get-together to discuss the film. Promote the art-house side of things, quirky foreign films, all the things that are tucked away on the NetFlix submenus. Hell, why not, hold a singles evening once a month, there's plenty of single film nerds out there.
This.
Any business model based around filling physical media with information and selling it is borked (so DVD/BluRay, books, CDs, newspapers, magazines, encylopedias, etc).
Your friend has somehow got to provide a physical/real-world experience that makes it worth coming to the store, and then work out how to monetise that (to avoid being the place where people go to talk about the films they streamed from Netflix this week). Retail is going through the same struggle, how to avoid becoming "Amazon's Showroom
NIche markets... (Score:3)
The real solution is to redefine th
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"a customer list, knowledge of movies and location" sounds like a perfect mixture of what you need.
A lot of suggestions on here are emphasizing the physical connection and shared experience, but I'd shy away from the "become the NPR book club experience for indie movies" direction. People still go to movie theatres after all, and not just the art-house ones. Keep your focus on the mainstream local customer market.
My thoughts?
1) Make it very easy to browse. Apple spent a b unch of money working on "Album Cover" browse mode, and Netflix tries to micro-genre target for you .. try to come up with a happy medium in physicality.
2) Emphasize the human connection -- events, specials, etc. I don't know what the location is like, but if there's a restaurant next door, come up with a dinner-and-a-movie cross promotion with them.
3) A web-browsable catalog is nice, but you know what's faster than tapping in a name on your PS3 Netflix controller? Calling a number (assuming you're staffing your phones). Make it super easy to reach a live person, preferably one who might know you by name when you walk in. Hire movie nerds just like Gamestop hires game nerds.
4) Use location cell services (Foursquare, Google Local or whatever they call it) heavily... Specials, deals, mayorships, etc...
5) As someone else said... if you can't beat em, join em. Get high speed internet and wireless (protected, with daily changing keys that are on the receipt or something) and set up some areas for people to deal with streaming services. Maybe get a Red Box and stick it *inside* your store -- I have no idea on pricing, but see if you can set the price for it somewhere above the default.
6) Upsell with food/drinks just like Blockbuster did.
7) Don't try to undercut yourself out of business by lowering price, but offer meaningful loyalty rewards. It's more important to *keep customers coming back* than to make high profits off each one.
Good luck!
Make checkout superfast (Score:4)
Use rfid or other tech so that when someone is leaving with movies, they are automatically logged and displayed. This is what you will be billed for starting now.
Bill by the day.
Make it easy to purchase the movies as an alternative to returning them. Take advantage of lazy purchasing.
Keep a computer terminal up and locked on IMDB so people can look up the movie or find a movie they remember.
Have three return bins. Liked it, hated it. Defective. Let your customers vote on which movies to keep in stock.
Make it easy to order movies for purchase an put on their account. Take advantage of impulse purchasing.
Dont ever ever ever ask them to sign up for an additional type of membership. Always a downer.
Make it so that they never leave without a movie. Have a "are you feeling lucky" freebie movie.
stress the importance and worth of the special features (which are unavailabe on streaming)
Dont waste shelf space with all your titles flat. Keep one face up, the rest on edge.
Dont be prudes
Stock movies you would watch. Dont stock movies you could never stand to watch. Be a good place to find good movies.
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Actually, even today, there are buggy whip manufacturers. The key is to recognize that you have a shrinking market size and that only the best and unique suppliers are going to survive. So, your friend, assuming he wants to stay in this shrinking market and intensifying competition will need to think of how he can outperform downloads. Are there services that are not provided by downloads. How about teaming up with the local pizza joint and delivering a pizza and a movie. Personalize the service and
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Our Local DVD store has just had a Subway installed inside.
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take out a rack or two of the oldest movies for a large table with a power station for people to plug in laptops
Laptops? Plug in? What year is it? I suppose you think he should rent wax cylinders as well?
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Same. thing. Rent the dirtiest, most perverted porn that it legal in your jurisdiction and you have a small chance. And a very discreet entrance.
Stop renting DVD's (Score:3, Insightful)
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Additionally, the business owner probably has a particular set of skills which could be applied to a business with a tailwind, rather than one with a headwind. They should spend their energy figuring out what that next business or project is.
Re:Stop renting DVD's (Score:4, Funny)
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+1 funny
Re:Stop renting DVD's (Score:5, Insightful)
What kind of nutbags start a job without the protection of a collective bargaining agreement?
How about that, there is such a thing as a stupid question.
Answer #1: Any professional with any ambition at all. Collective bargaining agreements are a noose around the neck of anybody with the ambition to better themselves.
Answer #2: Any unskilled employee who'd like to have a paycheck if they live in a right to work state where "at will" employment predominates. Which unsurprisingly happens to be the states with the lowest unemployment rates right now.
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Bullshit. How do you figure? You are always free to negotiate yourself above and beyond what your union sets for everybody. I negotiate my salary myself on union jobs ALL THE TIME, and haven't worked for the union minimum in a long long time.
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You mean how Hostess tripled their CEO's pay and raised other exec's salaries, while cutting worker's pay and benefits?
Stop drinking the far right's Kool Aid. It's not unions that are killing companies like Hostess, it's vulture capitalists.
Re:Stop renting DVD's (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm happy to stipulate that any executive who accepts a pay raise the same year their workers get a cut is a scumbag. But ultimately it was union negotiators who allowed the company to go under. Maybe they thought having no job is better than a having a shitty job working for assholes, and that killing off a company that can't or won't take care of its employees is a message worth sending. If so I'd actually respect that, but I haven't seen that's how this is being reported.
Re:Stop renting DVD's (Score:5, Informative)
You mean how Hostess tripled their CEO's pay and raised other exec's salaries, while cutting worker's pay and benefits?
Stop drinking the far right's Kool Aid. It's not unions that are killing companies like Hostess, it's vulture capitalists.
Perhaps you should stop drinking your own Kool Aid. The Baker's Union was told that if they continued to strike the company would fail. Not "we don't want to pay you more" but "the company will close and everyone will be out of work". Their response, even after the Teamsters agreed, was "up yours". Shockingly, the company closed. The Baker's Union was greedy and assumed the owners were lying to them. They weren't. End of Story.
The CEO's pay had exactly nothing to do with the demise of the company and is nothing but a red herring.
Re:Stop renting DVD's (Score:4, Insightful)
"The CEO's pay had exactly nothing to do with the demise of the company..."
I think this is the crux of the matter. The CEOs got their pay and bonuses and pay raises regardless of the outcome of the labor negotiations. They got this even if the company failed. The only thing they gave up was the right to loot the company for more dollars in the future but they probably figured that the company was done for and they couldn't get more out of it. They will happily move on to the next victim (see: Bain Capital).
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OK, let's stipulate that all that is correct, all those arcane and wasteful work rules. Who cares? It's called a "collective bargaining agreement" because the two sides agree. I mean, when a guy who was originally making $80K has to go beg for his old job back at $40K, we're told that the act of agreeing to sign the employment contract means that by definition the agreement is to his benefit. So it's the same way with the bosses. If they stupidly agree to giveaways to the unions, they're just as much to
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So I guess the work rules that said that you had to have one guy on the truck to drive it, and another one on the truck to actually unload the truck and stock the shelves had nothing to do with it? Guess stocking the shelves requires such specialized training we can't expect drivers to figure it out. Or how about the rules that said that if you had cakes and breads going to the same location, you had to send two trucks, one for the cakes and one for the breads? Can't see how that would be an issue, either. How about the Forbes article from February which noted that Hostess had 372 separate collective bargaining agreements and 80 separate health and pension plans. Workers compensation costs for last year averaged out to $2700 for each of its 18K+ employees.
Yes- management getting bonuses while the workers take it on the chin is scummy. Working for a struggling company when it is bought by a private-equity firm is almost always bad news.
But why don't you look past your knee-jerk "it's the far right" response- there's plenty of blame to go around in this instance, and the unions are one of the prime reasons the Hostess workers no longer have jobs.
Featherbedding is unquestionably one of the most notoriously offensive things about unions.
On the other hand, if you want to see the opposite of featherbedding, look at (non-union) IT shops, where management wants the same person to be the apps developer, the DBA, the sysadmin, the network administrator and desktop support for 500+ users. For $18k annually, and no thought of a pension; if you can't build up an IRA out of your daily salary, then tough.
Maybe, just maybe, the union reached the point where when
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The only people that care that Hostess is shutting down are:
It's hard to sell cakes filled with fluffed beef tallow and corn syrup as a premium snack these days.
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Perhaps he could open a waterbed business.
Or buy shares in Facebook.
cheers,
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I agree, DVD renting as business is on the way out. in the not-too-far future there will be too few customers to keep him in business.
If he wants to stay in retail he has to start selling/renting things customer want to buy/rent in a brick and mortar store.
Re:Stop renting DVD's (Score:4, Insightful)
It's not just the customers needed to keep him in business, DVD Rental is dependant on the Movie Publishing houses wanting to rent DVD's and so allowing them to be licensed for rental.
With all that lovely, easily updatable DRM they can load into streamed movies, I think the publishers will stop licensing DVD's as soon as the streaming market has developed enough.
That leaves the owner spending time and money trying to make his store relevant to his customers only to have his product pulled from under him.
Re:Stop renting DVD's (Score:4, Informative)
> DVD Rental is dependant on the Movie Publishing houses wanting to rent DVD's and so allowing them to be licensed for rental.
That is pure nonsense and the sort that should not be repeated on Slashdot.
You have the right to dispose of your property as you please. You have first sale rights. These include DVDs. There is no "mythical implied license".
That's why physical media distributors are still in a better position relative to big content. Warner Brothers can't tell you that you're not allowed to rent their movie. They can tell you that you aren't allowed to stream their movies anymore.
If you can buy it, then you can rent it.
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Access to rental history (Score:2)
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The only possible way to survive is to develop a niche. Streaming services are usually pretty good for recent movies, but a lot of back catalogue stuff is hard to find. Specialize in the stuff that's out of print, rare, etc. But really, I'm hard-pressed to see how that business model would be sustainable as a primary income source in most communities. There simply isn't enough demand for the content, especially given the huge amount of material available through Netflix's mail catalogue.
Re:Well... (Score:5, Informative)
Mod parent up.
This is exactly what I was going to say. Provide movies that can't be downloaded. One point I'd add though: get to know your catalog and know how to help customers choose movies they'd enjoy. Some online recommendation programs work well, but others don't. If you know a lot about film, you can help people find movies they love that they'd never heard of, which will help promote repeat business.
The difficult part is starting now. Odds are, your friend has already seen a dropoff. (Though, frankly, your friend must run a good store if he's still in business at all.) It may be difficult to buy enough titles to diversify the catalog enough to keep things going. I'd suggest starting with Criterion Collection and Kino-Lorber titles. Criterion are more expensive but have strong brand recognition. Kino Video has weaker brand recognition but lower prices, and often do great work restoring copyright expired titles. (Just check out their silent library, such as the Art of Buster Keaton box set.)
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Moreover the business strategy of serving the long tails [wired.com] as you suggested requires a vast catalog, which places the fixed expense of physical media at a big immediate disadvantage.
Fleecing customers with low GB/mo caps (Score:4, Informative)
As bandwidth improves
It's not just burst bandwidth that has to improve but also sustained bandwidth. Several types of home Internet access, such as satellite and cellular, have acceptable burst bandwidth (in the high hundreds of Kbps to low Mbps) but unacceptable sustained bandwidth (typically less than 10 GB per month). That's not going to change until A. it becomes drastically cheaper to get rural areas wired for fiber, or B. the state subsidizes getting rural areas wired for fiber.
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Also, incredibly bad movies always have a certain public. Reserve a section for classics like Plan 9 and forgotten gems like Starcrash. A DVD store will never be the most pratical place to get movies, so make it the best place for people to know new movies they might enjoy.
Know that anything you do is only a stopgap, though. The above idea might work for a while, while everyone still has DVD players, but that'll change soon enough.
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Seriously.
The ONLY video store I know that is still successful specializes in difficult to find material. The kicker is all their staff are avid film and movie fans and can recommend films you haven't seen, "Oh you like that director? Have you seen his little known release X? What about this director from a decade prior that was his main influence?"
Personally I think it would be cool if rental places could do a beer growler style service. You bring a flash drive in, they drop a 1080P film on it of your choice. I like my movies in HD, but I'm no fan of BR. Of course DRM and the MPAA stands between that ever realistically happening. Why would I want such a service rather than online or a kiosk? Aside from online DL speed being slow on low compression HD videos (especially less popular ones), the same reason the as above. So I can have a human help me select something. That's where the value is added.
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Indeed. Compare that concept to the concept of vinyl record stores. I'm not into vinyl; most people aren't into vinyl; but you can stake out the niche if you are competent and persistent. But if I had to advise the average video store owner, it would be to pack up and find a new store to open.
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Or provide movies that can be downloaded but partner with the local pizza place. Suddenly you can order pizza and a movie and get it delivered to your door in a shorter or equivalent time that the download takes.
Now the customer only have to visit one page to save the evening instead of two.
Add an option to buy the movie instead of renting it and the customer won't have to make the trip to return it.
Providing better service than the competition is another way to stay relevant, you don't really have to niche
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That is a long tail kind of market, and brick and mortar retail is generally incompatible with filling long tail demand, unless you have a very large, dense city where you can find a customer base for niche items.
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Betamax
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What streaming services, exactly, and "pretty good for recent movies"? I've tried Netflix, and their service is abysmal. I'm serious, because I still rent a lot of DVD's from Netflix, because I can't find a decent streaming service.
Location, location location (Score:2)
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Yep. Create a niche.
For example, Netflix has done a poor job with their Anime catalog. If you have a local demand for that genre there will be a couple stores who sell Anime DVDs alongside other Anime products. But most folks are happy to rent a disc for $2 rather than buy it for $20.
Create a web site linking your inventory. Allow customers to reserve and pay for disc rentals on the web site and then pick them up on the way home instead of having to hang around the store and either stand in the checkout line or find all copies of the desired movie out of stock.
The web inventory also allows you to warehouse less popular titles so that they're available but don't consume retail space. Long tail stuff.
Also start a policy: any disc you don't have in stock, you'll buy and rent out upon customer request. Only deal is the customer has to prepay the minimum rental before you'll order it. Place like Netflix can't handle that. They can stock a disc or not, but they can't have just one ad-hoc copy.
There's also a decent niche for buying and selling used DVDs instead of renting them. Sell that new movie for $20 and it's a guaranteed buyback at $18 if they return it in acceptable condition by the end of the week. After that you'll buy it at market value. This works decently well for video games too.
We have niche libraries (Score:4)
I recently spent a couple of days in Raton, NM. It's quite small but they have a thing there called the Whittington Center. It's a gigantic place to shoot, museum, store, and library on all things having to do with shooting. (How it got there is a fascinating political story that I'll leave for another day.) I'm retired and I love to shoot but it was that library that drew me in. I spent hours and hours there, finding new gems and old, every time I scanned a different shelf. I would literally consider moving to Raton just to have easy access to that specialty library...if it weren't for the fact that I spent enough time there to discover that Raton is an armpit of a place.
In the large metro area where I currently live there are a couple of niche stores that are doing at least OK. I can think of two stores that sell just vinyl records. I can think of one that rents rare DVDs, has an extensive anime section, even has some old stock on tape that never made it to disc, and sells a small selection of high-value, carefully-selected hardware to equip your home theatre. They have employees who seem to know *everything* and can make a dozen recommendations based on scanty evidence. I've brought three discs to the front counter and said "I've seen these. I liked them. What else would I like?" Within three minutes, an employee will have sprinted me around the store and put a dozen other titles in my hands (guaranteed I haven't even heard of half of them) and I can pick at random from that pile with no fear of disappointment.
I'm definitely willing to pay for that kind of service. It's just too bad I retired and I'm too far away from them to use them now. (In fact, I've been away for so long that I don't know if 2 of the 3 examples I just gave are still in business and I don't want the potential heartbreak of looking them up online to see if they still are.)
That brings me to my last point - location. Most DVD stores that were successful back in the day did so by being where there were the most people. Everybody was renting DVDs so you just had to be located where the most people were to be found. There were even DVD stores that did rentals inside major shopping malls.
Times have changed. Joe Average is no longer your customer. If the store in question is in a place with good traffic flow but no *specialty* traffic flow, then they're screwed, doubly so since not only is the customer base falling but the location rents are probably higher *because* of the good traffic flow.
The first idea that pops into my head is that specialty equipment stores that sell guns, weightlifting equipment, cosmetics, whatever, etc., tend to have a shelf somewhere with a couple of "how-to" discs to buy. The selection is always lousy and the discs are for purchase only. I wish someone would come up with a way to put a smaller, lower-tech version of a Red Box in every speciality store in the country. Said kiosk (or just a shelf of DVDs with bar-coded labels that somehow communicate with whatever vertical app the store is using to sell all their other stuff) would rent out "how-to" and specialty DVDs to those people who are interested in the goods sold by that particular store.
Wherever there's a successful brick-and-mortar store, there's the potential to sell and rent DVDs with highly-specialized content to the customers of those stores.
Why not abandon the "DVD store" concept? Bring the stock to the customers instead of making the customers come to the stock. I know one gun store that tried this with books and it failed but only because it took up too much room. On a per-square-foot basis, keeping a book store inside a gun store is stupid; there's so much more profit in just adding more display space for high-dollar-markup guns. With DVDs, though, we're literally talking less than two square feet of floor space for a tall, rotating rack.
Just an idea. I hate to see the OP's friend go out of business without at least an idea or two on the table.
Volume and newest titles vs boutique (Score:2)
People often change their minds, and are inspired to see other films when browsing. Having said that, The biggest advantage the online destinations have vs a brick and motar physical store is volume, and you can't compete with that.
The latest movies - sure you can get that. I think the real question for financial success is to offer a "flavor" or style, that isn't generated by an endless catalog, because you just have to get the people who are there, rent what you have, and be happy about it. They have
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DVD re-winding service (Score:2, Funny)
Offer free DVD re-winding for the returned movies.
Game Sales/Rentals? (Score:5, Interesting)
Buying and reselling used games that don't cost as much as their brand new counterparts is something that people are sorely in need of. Maybe credits for game rentals with a trade-in instead of cash?
Even if you don't charge much less, charging $20-25 for a used game opposed to the $40-50 EB and Gamestop charge might drive some business away from them and towards your friend.
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Send them a bill (Score:5, Funny)
Compute how much these new internet business models actually cost you in the long term. Send them a bill for potential losses.
MPAA and RIAA do it all the time!
Nothing but radical change (Score:3)
DVD rental, coffee shop and hardware sales? (Score:4, Insightful)
Well, people who come to a DVD shop presumably want to rent DVDs...which means that perhaps they're not comfortable with the latest tech, even if - as you quote - many say they would rather download the film. My experience with DVD shops has been that they are pretty miserable places, which make most of their profit from overdue fees.
Make a comfy place with 'cult' DVDs to hire, plus give advice on ways to upgrade your home cinema. Sell overpriced coffee.
Re:DVD rental, coffee shop and hardware sales? (Score:4, Interesting)
Tough one..getting traction (Score:4, Interesting)
USB stick rentals? (Score:2)
Personally, I find renting a DVD a pain in the ass. If I have a movie in mind that I want to watch, it's not there, or already rented out. Then I have to go search for another movie to watch. When I find a movie to rent, I either watch it right away, or decide to watch it later and "buffer" it on my PC. Now I have to go back to the movie store to return it, another hassle. To be honest, it's so much easier to go watch a movie on iTunes or other online services.
What would be awesome is USB stick rentals. I b
Quality (Score:2)
Expand and make it up on volume (Score:2)
He should expand into seedboxes
Like everyone else is saying... (Score:2)
...your buddy needs to get out of the buggy whip business. 5 years ago. He might have been able to sell to some sucker named Randy back then.
Music stores, book stores, and movie rental stores: No longer viable businesses.
Anything that can be transmitted electronically has no place in a physical storefront. The sooner your friend accepts reality, the sooner he can transition to services or physical goods.
adapting (Score:2)
Obligatory South Park Reference. (Score:2)
A Nightmare on Facetime [southparkstudios.com]
Unfortunately, you can't (legally) watch it yet.
Unfortunately, unless he's in a rural area, he's pretty much screwed. He can try to follow the model Family Video [familyvideo.com] uses, since they all seem to be successful around here for some reason, but other than that either get out or get screwed.
DVD rental always sucked - long live the VCR (Score:2)
I remember trying DVD rentals when these shiny new DVD thingies came out.
Trouble was, 1/3 of the movies I rented were ruined due to the discs being scratched to death.
In my experience VHS tape survives typical renter mistreatment a lot better than optical discs.
Not to mention all the unskippable shit. I presume there are now DVD players that ignore the 'do not skip' flag. Ugh.
DVD rental stores drove me away long ago.
Maybe your friend should try renting movies on VHS, and don't forget betamax!
DVDs are cheap
Start a hackerspace? (Score:5, Interesting)
If your friend is running a successful business, then he's got a particularly useful and uncommon skill.
Some 80% of all first businesses fail, but only 20% of second businesses fail. That's because after the first business, you learn from your mistakes. Your friend has the skills and experience needed to start a new business - and that's what he should do.
So, what's trending on the map right now? What brick-and-mortar establishments are on the rise?
How about setting up a hackerspace [hackaday.com]? These seem to be popping up everywhere, and unlike McDonalds, there's still room for more.
While running the 'space, keep an eye out for things that might be products [seeedstudio.com]. With a hackerspace available it's easy to "test the waters" for a new tech product: you have access to people with skills for design, construction, [website] sales, and so on.
What they don't have is someone who can steer the ship, someone who has experience in things like incorporating, taxes, management, planning, accounting, and so on.
Consider starting a hackerspace. I hear that they can be successful and lots of fun.
I can answer this question... (Score:5, Interesting)
I actually might be qualified to answer this since my business partner and I are in this very scenario and we have already made adjustments that have had a real positive impact.
My partner's dvd rental store has been in business and at the same location for over 16 years. During that time, Blockbuster gave it a run for TEN years directly across the street, but closed down 2 years ago. He began supplementing the business by becoming a wireless dealer and bill payment station. Here in Houston, multipurpose shops are EVERYWHERE and are VITAL in small, mostly Hispanic communities, so in order to compete, your store must offer all or at least some of the following: Phone service, phone cards (for international calling), bill payment such as local utilities and cable, Western Union, MoneyGram, money orders, copies, fax service, etc...
We recently began offering computer repairs and upgrades in addition to the cell phone repairs and he has quite a bit of retail space dedicated to not only popcorn, candy and soda, but even chips, sweets, fortune cookies, designer fragrances, and tons of accessories.
This may seem crazy to a lot of readers here, and it's certainly a lot to juggle for a store owner, but the truth is, he has been a staple in the community for so long that our customers keep finding reasons to come in. Sure, they still rent dvds, but they really come for the multitude oi other helpful services we offer.
look at bookstores (Score:2)
Bookstores are trying to maintain their relevance by becoming coffeeshops that sell books. The idea is to make the store a destination in its own right, rather than just the means to get a chunk of entertainment. At a bookstore you can sample the offerings before picking one out (not possible with DVD-by-mail, and possible – but not really done well – by streaming services), so maybe set up DVD players with headphones, or (shhhh) rip the DVDs and let the customers preview them on kiosks in the
Talk to your customers ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Slashdot isn't the best place to ask because most of us have bought into digital distribution. We are unlikely to be the video store's target audience so we aren't the best people to ask.
Your friend also has some challenges because copyright laws limit his options. A lot of things that could be done would be illegal or require a lot of paperwork because it would be considered a public showing (e.g. previews, a showing room for private events).
Yet they may be able to transition their business if they are into film. This could be tied to tangible products or people oriented. They could try to sell the hardware to show movies, provide a forum to discuss them, or even provide a hub for people who want to produce independent films.
There are a lot of other ways to adapt. The key though is to talk to the people who matter: the customers who would actually use the service.
Second-hand market? (Score:2)
Maybe he could try his hand at the used video market?
Just as game stores increasingly earn their profits through buybacks and re-sales of used games and console hardware, he could get into the business of purchasing and re-selling used DVD/Blu-ray movies, and maybe used video players as well.
Beer coasters for movie themed parties? (Score:2)
Or burn the place down for the insurance..
There's a successful, large rental outlet here. (Score:5, Informative)
- wide selection of movies and TV shows, stuff you won't find elsewhere or downloadable via torrents, like lesser known foreign and independent movies, the place is huge.
- enough copies of popular movies so you can almost always get what you went there for
- blu-ray, DVD, VHS (!), Xbox 360, Wii, etc., whatever you and your family needs, it's there
- two for one days on slower nights of the week and other coupons for the past decade brings plenty of people into the outlet
- extras are sold off at a good price when they're no longer rented
Depends on the size of your community (Score:3)
If you are in a small town, specializing in out of print or hard to find catalogs probably won't be enough to survive... Kinda how record stores are restricted to large metro areas.
But here are some ideas:
Get a post office account and offer pre-paid mail-in returns. It will take some doing to ensure the packaging is light and small enough to keep mailing costs down, but it would make it far more convenient to rent.
Allow reservations online.
Open a small pizza pro or similar franchise in the corner of the store so people can grab dinner and a movie all at once.
Sell esoteric candy and theater popcorn, for the same reason, but at reasonable prices.
Buy and sell used DVDs. Take the movie home and keep it? Just 12.99-19.99 depending on the movie. Bring it back? Then just the rental fee. Look at what Vintage Stock / Movie Trading Company is doing, where the buy-in price is determined by software that looks at the current stock across all stores vs the past few months of sales. More popular movies or really rare ones are worth more, and thus entice people to bring them in.
Buy and sell game systems, used and new.
Offer disc resurfacing services for damaged discs.
If your market supports it, buy and sell Vinyl records, including new releases that come with digital downloads.
Offer home theater consulting services, offer training on what surround sound is or how to build your own HT setup.
Make sure the store is a fun/inviting environment to be in: have couches setup and the latest game systems available to play, have a kiosk with IMDB so people can easily lookup who was in what movie (bonus points if you can hookup Google voice search API to it so its voice controlled). Become an Apple authorized reseller/service center. Sell cables/adapters, the AppleTV, and demo AirPlay to people, etc.
I'm sure you could think of others. If people feel comfortable and want to spend time in your store, they'll be much more likely to purchase something.
These are just a few ideas that spring to mind.
Some ideas I have seen work and some new ones (Score:3)
Not sure how much floor space your friend has but..
Coffee shop
Sell books, comics/manga, magaines
Study pods/counters
Rent or sell music cds and live concert dvds
Sell not rent
Rent game consoles
have screens showing trailers of new films
Contract with indies to sell theirs
If it is in a major location, special events for example a director gives a talk
Link with film festivals
Allow people to watch any films in the shop, plus some streaming accounts, on large screens in the shop - you can just charge per hour and let people try titles one after another
Look at the kind of films that get shown on MUBI.
Write reviews / recommendations for titles, like in book stores
Sell hardware like ebook readers, cameras, hard disks
Sell fun and funky products
Provide cheap or free coffee or other drinks/eats like in a movie theater
Provide books about cinema to get people interested in huge world of film
Go after foreign film genres, both classic and contemporary. For example Japanese film, Finnish film, Mexican film, French Film.
Put up great movie posters. Not just cheapo sci-fi flix. French posters are often well done.
Sell audio books and classical/jazz too, your audience doesn't have to be just little kids, these are popular among older people for car and for home listening. My parents put audio books in the car and also into an ipod for listening at home for my father.
Could bring in other crowds - older people, people who are into design, art and architecture, people who are into looking for new films instead of watching the same ones over and over
Sell sets of classic movies, like hitchcock or car grant, etc.
Sell sets of movies like 007, etc.
When a new film is out in theaters, sell or rent all the films that director or lead actor/actress has made.
Make a members card that gives you discounts
Tie up with other businesses
Make new "film festivals" or "Now Showing xxxx" events every week or month
(I think this is fair use...) Offer to load ipod with music the person rents, then they don't have to bring the CD back to you..
Rent high quality equipment for people who want to make their own films, or provide studio space for band to record or something to engage community and people who are enthusiastic.
Engage film clubs (not sure if this works)
Research lots of films so people can always come to you to find them.
Video Renaissance (Score:3)
That's about all I can say. Whether I've described their virtues well or not, they remain in the same location - with customers, but apparently without a website. I dug up their Faceclamp page [facebook.com] and a news article [ticketsarasota.com] on Terry; maybe between the two you'll find an idea.
I think all the go niche posts are bad adivice (Score:3)
All of the go niche posts are going to lead to tears. I keep seeing do anime, or do unusual scifi, or become and expert service, book/movie clubs. The trouble I see here is these all rely on exclusivity and digital media by its very nature defies that.
It might be true that today none of the big streaming services is quite all things to all people but the market is speaking pretty clearly. The horse has left the barn some combination of streaming and digital downloads are the future video distribution, at least as far as entertainment is concerned.
All the nice plans will require a major investment, and the corner video store guy is not going to be able to negotiate any kind of license exclusivity. All it would take is one of the big streaming players to get some blanket license agreements for the big content players ( who own the rights to much of the independent and historical stuff one way or another ) and suddenly his very narrow selection of customers is gone to greener pastures. In the meantime he will have invested lots of capital into assets of little or no residual value.
Personally I think his best bet if its good retail space is sell off library and lease or sublet the shop to someone interested in operating a business of some kind fit for the modern era.
Videomatica (Score:3)
Videomatica in Vancouver was (is?) famous for their foreign films and back catalogues and were staffed by movie buffs.
They had talked about closing up, but checking them [videomatica.ca] just now (redirects to new site), they've closed their flagship store and are sharing a location with a record store.
They'd been in business for some 25 years or so, yet had to downscale their location in a reasonably large city just to keep the doors open. And I think they were popular Canada-wide for those really hard to get rentals among people willing to pay shipping...
Your friend might be able to get some ideas by looking at how they adapted to the times.
PS Tried to post this before, still have the "Working" throbber on my screen; apologies if it's a repeat.
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Obviously you are totally unaware that there are legal and reliable sites that make movies available online. Let's start with Netflix and Amazon, two services you apparently don't know about.
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Take off your MPAA controlled glasses. Nothing in that quote says they are going to necessarily download it illegally. And Amazon does do individual downloads, sometimes for free, and many movies for just a couple dollars.
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There are tons of movies and TV series that just aren't available on Netflix or Amazon for rental.
Yes - And purchasing these items (licensed for rental) is expensive for a rental shop. Having 'Misfits of Science' available for rental for the one geek per year who might ask for it is not good business.
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You do realize that legally downloading movies is an option, right? iTunes, Amazon Prime, Netflix...
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Plus most countries except the US have legalized downloading media for personal use - they pay extra taxes on certain products to fund the equivalents of the *AA in their countries to offset the economic cost of downloading thus making it legal to copy media for home use.
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You see, back in the 90s when HBO came out, these rental places were worried. So they brokered a deal to pay obscene prices for Videos before they went to HBO. $120 per VHS just so they could have it three months before. Now, there are deals with Video stores and HBO before they hit Netflix.
These guys are running scared and delaying the inevitable. I would develop a content box and sell that with a
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seriously, this was my first and only thought.
Offer blowjobs. Why? Because frankly, I have physically touched a DVD maybe 3 times in the past year. I don't buy them anymore, I don't use them. The vast majority of media that I consume comes through my internet feed.
I just don't see these coming back, I am sure they have some niche for some people but, short of removing the net from people's homes? Blojobs is your most realistic answer; that or location....locate the store some place where this is not true an