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Ask Slashdot: How Best To Set Up a Parent's PC? 418

CodingHero writes "My mother uses a recent enough PC running Windows XP and has a broadband connection, but her primary method of interacting with the online world remains the AOL software. She also likes to download and use various seasonal wallpapers, screensavers, etc. Usually all this works fine and I don't get family tech support calls, but occasionally something big goes wrong. Since she lives 400 miles away, that means I get to provide phone tech support. While I can usually get something fixed through simple instructions, sometimes it's just too complicated to properly diagnose and explain over the phone (e.g., a trojan infection that anti-virus won't get rid of on its own). I'd like to set up the system so that her account is not an Administrator and that I can easily (and securely) remotely connect to fix problems, install stuff she really wants to use (after proper vetting of course), and so on. Moving to Linux or a Mac is not an option. Upgrading the system to Windows 7 and breaking the AOL habit, while seemingly the best course of action, is going to mean a lot of my time up front to explain how to do things all over again, time that I don't have a lot of right now. Has anyone else had a similar experience? If so, what did you find was the best way to re-educate a parent and/or set up a method to securely and remotely manage a system, or at least lock it down to better protect it?"
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Ask Slashdot: How Best To Set Up a Parent's PC?

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  • Easy (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Ritchie70 ( 860516 ) on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @04:47PM (#43083337) Journal

    1. Install logmein (logmein.com) - the free edition is just fine.
    2. Make your mom a standard user. Non-administrator.
    3. Create an "Admin" account. Do NOT tell her the password.

    It's working so far for my mother-in-law. Her old computer was so badly infested that I just gave up and gave her one of my spares. (She had no reload media.)

    Now, even with her teen grandson surfing porn (yes, I caught him at it, yes, we had a long talk about it but I doubt he's stopped) it seems to be clean.

    She has Windows 7. Maybe it won't work as well with XP.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @04:54PM (#43083489)

    You can also do screen sharing sessions in Skype. So you can converse at the same time. I have found this very helpful for providing a variety of assistance.

  • Ubuntu (Score:5, Interesting)

    by caluml ( 551744 ) <slashdot@spamgoe ... minus herbivore> on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @04:55PM (#43083513) Homepage
    I set up my mother with Ubuntu, and she loves it. She appreciates the "tidiness" of the desktop, and the simplicity of it all.
    I left her set up with the ability to sudo, but with the warning that "there be dragons", and to contact me.
    I set up OpenVPN so I could always SSH on, and fix anything.

    The only time I've ever had a problem was when my sister's Windows-using ex boyfriend tried to install something, and stuffed up the firewall rules. I simply talked her through sudo iptables ... and I popped on and fixed it. And then reminded her about the dragons.

    Years of trouble-free computing.
  • Re:iPad (Score:5, Interesting)

    by raehl ( 609729 ) <(moc.oohay) (ta) (113lhear)> on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @04:59PM (#43083563) Homepage

    The article might as well be me... except it's 270 miles, and my dad does provide some front-line tech support. But my mom is still on AOL.

    This Christmas we had her try various tech devices from smart phones to tablets (Android and iOS); the end verdict was she is still most comfortable in front of a monitor with a keyboard and mouse. Tablets worked OK for some of the things she wanted to do, but the lack of physical keyboard was problematic, esp. when it came to email. And it's also more comfortable for her to be sitting in a chair NOT having to hold the screen. Tablet screens also suffer compared to larger monitors when you're old and want a large font.

    So while mom might end up with a tablet as an accessory, they are NOT desktop replacements. And don't solve the AOL problem either.

    To the article submitter, what does your mom use AOL for? The AOL experience isn't necessarily much different than the browser experience, for certain activities, so you might want to try setting up Windows 7 and then seeing if the browser is "close enough".

    Ultimately I got my mom a new PC (her old one was OLD and took days to boot (ok, 20 minutes)) and put windows XP on it. Fortunately she doesn't feel the need to download the screensaver du jour, so with virus software XP is OK and what she's familiar with. Did end up having to put AOL back on it but dad is working on weaning her over to a browser. If she makes that transition probably on to Windows 7.

  • Re:Linux (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Sparticus789 ( 2625955 ) on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @05:14PM (#43083799) Journal

    told them they'd never have to worry about a virus again,

    Said every Mac OS X user circa 2010

  • Re:iPad (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ifiwereasculptor ( 1870574 ) on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @05:44PM (#43084241)

    Ditto. My mother couldn't even transition to a laptop, since she uses e-mail a lot and demands a full-sized keyboard (preferably far from a trackpad, since it's easy to touch or rub it by mistake and move your cursor and/or click to somewhere it's not supposed to). A tablet left her profoundly disgusted with the experience of typing on an unergonomical hard surface, so a PC it is. And, after lots of time spent maintaining her XP machine, I did the unthinkable: set up Debian stable for her. Works like a charm, breakage of whatever kind is nonexistant and I don't have to worry about viruses. It did take a while to set up initially (while I figured all her use-cases and adjusted the machine accordingly), but from there it has been smooth sailing.

    For the submitter, that's what I'd add: any sort of transition will demand lots of your time, don't fool yourself. You can either try to instruct her, which will take very long, or pull an Apple and lock her machine down in a way that she can only use whatever you want her to. As long as you do a good job of predicting her needs, it's far less hassle in the long run.

    A final thought: educating an elderly citizen to use VMs is easier than one might think.

  • Re:iPad (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 05, 2013 @06:27PM (#43084835)

    That's fine...you can still use the iPad for FaceTime. I've found that FaceTime is a godsend when doing remote tech support for my parents. When talking on the phone, I can ask them to describe what they're seeing on the screen and they will go into excruciating detail on the most mundane parts of the screen while completely ignoring the applicable parts of the screen...stuff like a big modal error dialog. FaceTime is video conferencing that even they can't screw up and allows me to have them point the camera at the screen so that I can see what they're seeing and can tell them exactly where to click and what to type.

    I've also moved my parents over to Macs, which has helped, but nothing has helped to the extent that them having a FaceTime-capable device has. I highly recommend it.

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