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Ask Slashdot: Is iOS 7 Slow? 488

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New submitter PopHollywood writes "Is iOS 7 slower than version 6? After upgrading, myself and a few others notice slow, choppy experience when scrolling, changing apps, etc. Is this common?" For those using iOS in general, what's been your experience with the new upgrade?
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Ask Slashdot: Is iOS 7 Slow?

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  • Dude, (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21, 2013 @11:17PM (#44915305)

    you're scrolling it wrong.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21, 2013 @11:18PM (#44915313)

    I work in a field where I see a lot of mobile devices and we've been seeing a lot of issues with iPhone 4/4S/5 units that had iOS 6 and were upgraded to iOS 7. Haven't come across too many 5C/S units yet but the few we have seem to be doing okay (no real issues with the 5S, 5C seems a little stuttery at times but not bad).

    • by BLKMGK (34057)

      In my case i had a whole slew of issues that showed up with IOS6. MMS stopped working, iMessage over data didn't work, data dropped constantly and I had to toggle roaming to regain it - just lots of stuff. None of this occurred with my iPad 2 just my 4S. I had been told that a "hard reset" would fix it and indeed the Apple store did it - which pretty much wiped out EVERYTHING on the phone but it worked great except I'd pretty much burned down my house to get there. So I pulled a backup and restored it - pro

  • That Apple has pushed out updates to hardware that couldn't really handle it. They've done this both to computers and I phones.
    • by noh8rz10 (2716597)

      That Apple has pushed out updates to hardware that couldn't really handle it. They've done this both to computers and I phones.

      Actually I've always been impressed how the osx updates worked so well on my old hardware. I some cases there wasn't much change, and in some cases there were definit improvements. I can't think of any upgrade where I felt bogged down afterward.

      I agree about the phones, but remember that the phones are improving like at 2x annually. Hard to make an os. That takes advantage of new phone hardware but runs well on a phone that is 3 years older and 10x slower!

  • Yep (Score:5, Informative)

    by AdamHaun (43173) on Saturday September 21, 2013 @11:24PM (#44915349) Journal

    There seem to be two different kinds of slowdown. The first is due to the new animations for things like going back to the home screen. The second is more intermittent, and happens mostly when task switching. Both of them are annoying. The whole reason I went with iOS over Android was the snappier UI.

    The disappearing Safari toolbar also drives me crazy. I wish I had held off on upgrading. Hopefully Apple will have some tweaks and patches out soon.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by sheddd (592499)
      Yea I've had iOS7 on a couple devices since WWDC; it wasn't painful on an iPhone 4S IMO... and it's no longer painful on a mini IMO... battery life was terrible; battery's better now that they've removed a lot of debugging stuff but still significantly worse than 6 on older devices.... I got a new iPhone, and the battery's better with iOS7 than my 4S was with iOS6... maybe some of the battery saving measures they took only work on the new chip.
    • Re:Yep (Score:5, Informative)

      by FuzzNugget (2840687) on Sunday September 22, 2013 @12:59AM (#44915767)

      The whole reason I went with iOS over Android was the snappier UI.

      This may have been true a few years ago with Android handsets generally being underpowered, but the hardware caught up a while ago already.

      I have a Nexus 4 and, aside from the rare hangup which happens on any OS, everything is just instant. Transitions are smooth and clean, apps load effortlessly, scrolling is incredibly responsive.

      My dad's iPhone feels sluggish and cumbersome by comparison.

    • by giorgist (1208992)
      Ultimately trying to hack in multitasking is a very difficult thing to do. Android has done it properly from scratch simply riding on the shoulders of linux. Apple wanted to make sure the experience is guaranteed so it slowly introduced task switching, and now it has to hack it in. Price to pay It is funny, bit Linux and IOS are at at the 3.11 stage in different ways.
      • Re:Yep (Score:5, Insightful)

        by immaterial (1520413) on Sunday September 22, 2013 @01:46AM (#44915893)

        Android has done it properly from scratch simply riding on the shoulders of linux. Apple wanted to make sure the experience is guaranteed so it slowly introduced task switching, and now it has to hack it in.

        What exactly does this mean? What is Android getting from its Linux pedigree that iOS doesn't get from its BSD UNIX pedigree?

  • Not new (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Samantha Wright (1324923) on Saturday September 21, 2013 @11:25PM (#44915353) Homepage Journal
    I've kept an iPod touch 2G and 4G around for a while—and I can say with some confidence that every single release of iOS has come with a palpable performance penalty. That's how Apple decides when to stop releasing iOS for a given device; the performance gets unacceptably awful.
  • by incom (570967) on Saturday September 21, 2013 @11:25PM (#44915355)
    Since the iphone 3g, apple has been pushing updates that slow down older phones.
    • I experienced that firsthand. Luckily I waited until I went to trade in the phone before loading iOS 4 on my iPhone 3G because it turned out to be unusably slow. All of the articles I read stated that iOS 4 ran great on an iPhone 3G, but I couldn't even scroll through the home screens without severe lag, even with a clean install of iOS with no apps.

      However, foregoing the update had negative side effects of its own. I was unable to install many apps because they required the new version of iOS and old
      • by NoMaster (142776)

        I was unable to install many apps because they required the new version of iOS and older versions of those apps were unavailable on the App Store.

        They fixed that the other day too; now the App Store will warn you if the current version won't run on older iOS, and will offer you the last version that will run on your system [techcrunch.com].

        Of course, now people are bitching about that... [arstechnica.com]

        But at least it fixes some of the more stupid fuckups - for example, iOS happily updating core apps like iBooks on old hardware to incomp

      • I'm not sure if all of that is still required, but it certainly didn't seem to live up to Apple's standards for being user-friendly.

        Fortunately not; you no longer need iTunes for updates and you are able to download older versions of apps that are still compatible with your older OS. And luckily none of the updates has been as terrible on older phones as iOS 4 was on the 3G, even though they do all (unsurprisingly) tend to tax the hardware more.

  • by ryanw (131814) on Saturday September 21, 2013 @11:28PM (#44915379)

    When upgrading my mac computers I have always seen a significant boost in performance on the same hardware (obviously).

    When upgrading the iOS devices I have found the opposite to be true. Each new version, on existing hardware, is slower but the feature set expands incredibly.

    I think this is because iOS started out as an infant and did what it was supposed to do really well and performed really well on the hardware it was designed on, and had features that only worked on the existing hardware. But as iOS has matured, so has the feature set.... There are incredible search engines, graphics engines, Siri, and tons more... this has required increasing hardware capabilities to keep up with the features. .... So the trick with iOS is don't expect to get performance gains with iOS updates unless you update your hardware at the same time. Each new iOS version brings new bells and whistles, but not performance. With each iOS capable hardware device you should expect significant performance boosts.

    • by mendax (114116)

      When upgrading my mac computers I have always seen a significant boost in performance on the same hardware (obviously).

      That has not always been my experience. I upgraded my maxed out 5 year old iMac from Snow Leopard directly to Mountain Lion and it's noticeably more sluggish. But going from Leopard to Snow Leopard was a big improvement, probably because of the 64-bit kernel. It seems that unless the OS takes advantage of some hitherto unused hardware capability it's slower.

      So, my conclusion is this: Upgrade == New heights in the development and marketing of Bloatware.

    • by mendax (114116)

      I did a great job of writing this article. The first line is a the quote, the rest is my alleged contribution to this discussion. And I properly looked at the preview this time.

    • by jIyajbe (662197)

      I hate to be Captain Obvious here, but isn't it true in general that the more advanced the operating system, the better (newer) the hardware it needs to run well? Nobody who values their time or sanity tries to run Windows 7 on a Pentium Pro computer.

      So yeah, older iPhones will run the new iOS more slowly than they ran the older iOS.

  • I haven't noticed any general slowness on an iPhone 5.

    However, there does seem to be an issue with the new Control Center. I have noticed sluggish responsiveness from buttons on the bottom of the screen in certain apps, presumably due to a conflict with the Control Center which can be activated by an upwards swipe from the bottom of the screen. Turning off the Control Center within apps (Settings/Control Center/Access within apps) fixed this issue for me while still retaining functionality from the mai
    • I've been noticing that too... in Google Hangouts, for example, the 'send' button has to be accurately pushed and held for longer than other buttons to register properly.
  • Actually faster... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by TechDock (558245) on Saturday September 21, 2013 @11:34PM (#44915401) Homepage
    Maybe I'm the only one, but my iPhone 4S is actually working faster now. Transitions in and out of apps is much quicker, without the delay I had before.
  • Not so much slowness (Score:5, Interesting)

    by jandrese (485) <kensama@vt.edu> on Saturday September 21, 2013 @11:35PM (#44915405) Homepage Journal
    I've not noticed excessive stutter on my 4s, but battery life seems to be worse thus far. I've not had iOS 7 installed long enough to be sure, but it looks like even with my typical workday activity the battery is draining noticably faster. Getting two days out of a charge doesn't look possible anymore.
  • I seriously doubt iOS7 is slow on iPhone 5s/5c. Now on iPhone 4, you should only be upgrading if you really need new features or must have consistency with your other devices, not with expectations of great performance. I the later case, you should probably have stuck with iOS5.

    It's perfectly fine for me on iPhone 5 or iPad 2.

    • It is as slick as can be on the 5S. Everything is smooth. Battery lasted all day with constant LTE use. I've been using Google Maps navigating around all day.
      There's some software glitchy-ness going on here and there (going back to the 'home' screen 'jitters' at the end of the animation as it resets the image for the parallax effect), but I expect that to be resolved in updates. Some inconsistencies with the keyboards too, but devs will have to update their apps to use the new 'flat' style.

      What I w
    • by bkmoore (1910118)
      iOS 6 was an optimization of iOS 5 and runs much better on my old 3GS than 5 ever did. I cannot imagine anyone seriously recommending iOS 5 for these older devices.
  • I had an iPhone 4S and I upgraded to iOS7. I noticed the slower animations and choppier UI right away. It was one of the things that made me very happy that I was ready for an upgrade. My new iPhone 5S performs perfectly, with the smooth UI and animations that I have come to expect from Apple. It seems like the older hardware just can't support it.
  • by ericdano (113424)

    I was using the Betas of iOS since b3, and have the current version on my iPhone 5. It's as fast if not faster. And the battery life has been a LOT better.

    I also installed iOS on an iPhone 4 for someone, and they noticed right away that it seemed a whole lot snappier.

  • The choppiest site I've visited on my 4S with iOS7 is slashdot's mobile site. The background of each story is "active" in the sense that when I thumb-down to scroll, the story's background dims to grey. The regular white background returns when I lift my thumb. This, combining this action with scrolling really makes for a choppy experience!

    • Safari is slow and freezes up from time to time. I cleared the browser cache and cookies along with rebooting the phone. I'm going to guess there's a bug that will get stamped out on the next round of iOS 7 updates.

  • seems just as smooth as iOS 6 on an iPhone 5 and 4S to me...
  • by Golden_Rider (137548) * on Sunday September 22, 2013 @12:30AM (#44915653)

    iOS7 should be fine on an iphone 5 or 4s, but there definitely should be a noticeable slowdown on an iphone 4. That hardware is a bit old by now, and iOS7 is designed for the newer hardware. E.g. the iphone 4 still has a single core A4 CPU, while the 4s already has the dual core A5. The newer phones (5 and up) also have twice the RAM. Still, upgrading to iOS7 is a user option, and it's better to have that option than not to have it. Not many 3 year old Android phones still get OS upgrades.

    • by Smerta (1855348) on Sunday September 22, 2013 @05:17AM (#44916543)

      FWIW, and I know this is anecdotal, but I upgraded my iPhone4 to iOS7 and found the moderate slowdown to be acceptable. Personally, I really enjoy & appreciate many of the changes.

      One thing in particular that I appreciate, now when I take a photo, the screen isn't unresponsive for a couple seconds after taking the photo. Said another way, the camera feels much "snappier" (no pun intended), even for taking single photos. I found this surprising and a bit odd, since some other things are actually a tad less responsive after the udpate.

      I'm not a moth that's drawn to bright lights, but iOS7 looked interesting enough that I figured it was worth a try. (That, and the fact that I'll replace my 3-year-old phone soon enough anyway, be it an iPhone or something else.)

      Mind you, I've been around the block, and I was burned badly when I upgraded my iPhone 3G to iOS4 a few years back. Talk about an update bringing the phone to its knees! There were times when I'd press a button (usually while typing on the keyboard) and the phone wouldn't respond for 20 seconds. Talk about fucking the dog, that release had no business running on the 3G. Sure, it might have been a ploy to force people to upgrade their phones, but it really soured me.

      Anyway, caveat emptor and all that, but if you've got an iPhone4, and you are on the fence about upgrading to iOS7, I would recommend you go for it. Just understand that certain things might not be quite as fast (power up being one of the most obvious, I haven't timed it but it's noticeably slower).

  • My experience on an ipad 2 so far: popular apps like Safari start somewhat slower, say from a bit under a second to a bit over a second. Afterwards it seems ok. Some transitions could be smoother but they'd not be quicker in my perception. It is quite logical that there is some loss of speed on older hardware. In general it is still very usable and the clean, crisp UI works well after dubious first few minutes.
  • by mkraft (200694) on Sunday September 22, 2013 @12:46AM (#44915715)

    I haven't really noticed a slowdown on either my iPhone 4S or iPad 2. It gets a little choppy occasionally on my iPad 2, but that happened with iOS 6 at times as well. The biggest issue I've seen is decreased battery life because of all the background tasks being done. That and the constantly reloading of apps do to more memory being used by iOS 7.

    I did have another issue on both devices, where somehow all my music (iTunes Match downloads), somehow got flagged as "Other Data" and couldn't be removed. I fixed this on my iPad 2 by turning off iTunes Match and doing a hard reset. For my iPhone 4S, nothing short of a restore fixed it. Both devices updated from iOS 6.1.3 OTA.

  • After listening to the frustrations of our iOS devs working to get our app ready for iOS 7, I'm waiting a couple of months before upgrading. Give lazy app producers time to patch their stuff before taking the plunge. Or maybe I'll just wait until 7.0.1 / 7.1.
  • by EvilSS (557649)
    I'm running it on an iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 and have noticed no slow downs. The 4 is actually a bit faster than it was under iOS 6. The only issues I've really seen from anyone is people complaining about the animations eating away fractions of seconds of their precious little lives.
  • is Linux slow? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by smash (1351) on Sunday September 22, 2013 @12:55AM (#44915757) Homepage Journal

    When i started using Linux, it would run just fine on my 486DX33 with 8 MB of RAM. Now when I try to run it on machines with 50x that spec it is slow.

    Newsflash: hardware requirements increase with new features. Supporting end of life hardware that hasn't been made for multiple generations in new platforms holds back said platform. Whether it is iOS, WIndows, Linux or whatever.

    • Actually, I run a modern version of the Linux Kernel on hardware slower than a 486 every day, though I admit I have access to a whopping 16 MB of RAM.

      Seems snappy enough to me.
      • by smash (1351)
        Maybe i should clarify - i wasn't referring specifically to the kernel. But a distribution including Kernel + X11 environment. I used to run X11 on my old 486.
  • by cpct0 (558171) <slashdot AT micheldonais DOT com> on Sunday September 22, 2013 @01:02AM (#44915779) Homepage Journal

    Update went well on my iPhone 4 (not S). Still am getting used to some elements. For example, the "ok" to unlock is kind of really unclear, and as such, I have doubts on putting nondescript text as buttons instead of having them shown with a rounded rect button frame.

    I had MAJOR slowdowns everytime I was writing some line of text. I mean major MAJOR, like the UI freezing for 10 seconds, then putting all the text I was blindly writing, and then freezing for yet another 10 seconds. Then, Mr. Interwebz found the solution, which is to disable iCloud synchro for documents & settings ... and from that point on, no more battery hug, no more slowdowns, and everything is quite responsive.

    So far, like it!

  • by deanklear (2529024) on Sunday September 22, 2013 @01:10AM (#44915795)

    It's definitely slower and I regret upgrading.

    There's not enough white space to provide any visual separation on a device so small when there is not even an attempt at drawing lines or separating elements. Almost everything is smaller and harder to read, and it's not obvious what is a "button" and what is just text in a corner somewhere. In fact, many of the improvements are simple knock offs of Android has had for a while. The world will soon be divided into Upswipers and Downswipers.

    I was thinking about updating my 4S, but while 7 was a step forward for some usability cases, I'm not sure I want to stick around for whatever is next. I am tired of not having full access to the hardware, and when I heard Ives was going to cut out cruft, I didn't imagine he was going to replace the whole system with the Office 2012 theme. Unfortunately for us, they're both based upon the premise that everyone wants to live in pure white Helvetica purgatory, and I don't think most of us do.

    It's probably a consequence of his background in hardware. When you cut elements out of real materials down to their simplest possible form, there is still depth and innate information because it is a physical object. When you remove all delineation and depth from two dimensional representations, new users cannot even guess at your purpose when it looks like a blank sheet of paper with text and small iconography scattered around randomly on top of it. While the elements look much better on larger screens (as found in this informal poll [polarb.com]), things like the slot-machine style picker are not very obvious when you're scrolling around. I don't think they did much real world testing with new users on actual devices.

    tl:dr; If you're a first year art student, you will absolutely love iOS 7. If you prefer to have some visual cues on what is content and what is part of the interface, you may want to hold off until Apple allows graphic designers capable of using more than one color back on the team.

    • by AdamHaun (43173)

      I agree with your criticisms. I have found a way to fix one thing, if it helps:

      Almost everything is smaller and harder to read, and it's not obvious what is a "button" and what is just text in a corner somewhere.

      In the accessibility options, turning on "Bold Text" will make the app names in the home screen bold again, which makes them much easier to read. Unfortunately, the other problems seem to be unfixable so far.

  • Apple has traditionally tweaked their latest software to run its best on the latest hardware, sometimes at the cost of running slower on older hardware. In general, most performance tweaks have side effects that will vary based on the underlying hardware. While Apple could create different versions of iOS tuned for different hardware, that would cause another layer of fragmentation, which is something Apple tries to avoid. That, and the obvious fact that they can sell more hardware by focusing on tweakin
  • What iPhone are you and your friends running? Model makes a big difference - for instance, I'm on the 4. My performance is somewhat choppy at key animation points in the OS, but that's expected. So?

  • You have to reboot it once.
  • My experience: Every operation is, or at least seems to be, much faster; and the UI seems much more responsive than iOS6.

    Have been using iOS7 for ~3days.

  • Subjectively slower on my 4S, but Safari bookmarks are so slow to edit there is no doubt a bug there (type> wait 10 seconds > character appears in field).

  • by Clsid (564627)

    It seems I'm the only one but I feel the change of those icons is horrible. Flat design might be ok for windows, etc, while the blur and other effects are cool, but the fonts are thinner and even when you use the Bold option in accessibility, it still doesn't read as good as it read before. I guess with a shiny Retina display it is awesome, but for an iPad mini it doesn't work extremely well. I really can't wait until the industry hit The Next Big Thing TM and focus away from flat design. It might be cool f

  • iPad 3 (Score:5, Informative)

    by pbjones (315127) on Sunday September 22, 2013 @04:14AM (#44916337)

    Feels a little faster in some areas like web browsing, generally about the same, but I prefer the old UI.

  • by MtViewGuy (197597) on Sunday September 22, 2013 @08:00AM (#44917025)

    I'm running iOS 7.0 on my iPad 2 and did not experience any slowdown issues--in fact, Safari in iOS 7.0 renders web pages a lot faster than before.

    However, I did see one noticeable issue: the graphical design--especially the text fonts--don't look good on an iPad 2 with its lower-resolution screen. I've seen the final iOS 7.0 on an 4th-generation iPad and thanks to its "Retina Display" resolution touchscreen, it does look really good.

  • by tigersha (151319) on Sunday September 22, 2013 @08:22AM (#44917103) Homepage

    Yes there is a slight... delay here and there. Dunno. It does not feel slow, but it is not butter-smooth
    anymore either.

    That said, I like the new UI.

    I am still a bit hesitant to upgrade my iPhone 4, because of my experience a few years ago with an upgrade on
    an iPhone 3 which definitely was not pleasant.

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