and I still make no more than what someone doing 3 years of shipping and receiving would make.
Your salary is dependant on the company. Some companies don't care about emloyees and love to turn them over.
Also, if you are just starting, I wouldn't be worried. After a year they will probably bump you up to something more reasonable. You also can ask for a raise. If you ask for something you think you should be making and get rejected, look for a new position somewhere else.
Here's some job advice for the recent computer graduate in today's economy.
1. Join the military and get into an intelligence specialty. If you plan on working with computers after you get out, I suggest Navy or Air Force though I know a great sys admin who was a Marine.
2. Get and keep a security clearance. Don't let it lapse. Don't do drugs or, God forbid, marry a non-U.S. citizen. Always pretend that you agree with everything George says and repeat after me: "Hanging is too good for anyone from Franc
Well, actually you're right, but you're not telling them the whole story.
The big ticket item there is the security clearance. Those are *very* expensive to get (no, YOU do not and can not pay for one, you have to be sponsored by an employer/the military who says that you need one). He's right about how badly having done drugs (this includes going out & getting drunk a lot, too, folks!) or marrying non-US citizens. Hell, extensive foreign travel and any number of other things can make you loo
You only see the accepted applicants, though, it would seem. Unless your workplace meets the requirements allowing temporary work authorizations, that is...
I know of plenty of folks who were rejected who aren't exactly particularly untrustworthy. Then again, I suppose that I don't know what all would be found in a full background investigation of them...
The other issue is that it's expensive to do these, so they avoid going through the whole screening process,if they can.
I know of plenty of folks who were rejected who aren't exactly particularly untrustworthy. Then again, I suppose that I don't know what all would be found in a full background investigation of them...
I've only ever seen one person rejected for a clearance. He was rejected because years before, he had worked on the Middle East Peace Council. So he was personally acquainted with a handful of terrorists.
Ironically, before 9/11 this fact didn't prevent him from holding clearances under a different organizati
My understanding is that SCI (Secure, Compartmented Information) clearances aren't necessarily "higher" than any others, though I'm sure they may well be classified.
You can also fail the polygraph. It doesn't help much knowing their false positive rate.
You can also be considered too irresponsible, though the debt and drug use bit covers much of that.
That said, I'd still jump at the chance to get a clearance--you're not kidding about how much they're worth:]
Most clearances do not involve a poly. That's a special ticket.
My understanding is that SCI...
Some tickets require special background checks, and maybe, as you noted, a poly. This is a big deal, because people often really don't want to take polys. Lots of people refuse, and thereby also refuse the ticket.
I've been programming for 3 years (Score:2, Interesting)
Your salary is dependant on the company. Some companies don't care about emloyees and love to turn them over.
Also, if you are just starting, I wouldn't be worried. After a year they will probably bump you up to something more reasonable. You also can ask for a raise. If you ask for something you think you should be making and get rejected, look for a new position somewhere else.
Re:I've been programming for 3 years (Score:5, Interesting)
1. Join the military and get into an intelligence specialty. If you plan on working with computers after you get out, I suggest Navy or Air Force though I know a great sys admin who was a Marine.
2. Get and keep a security clearance. Don't let it lapse. Don't do drugs or, God forbid, marry a non-U.S. citizen. Always pretend that you agree with everything George says and repeat after me: "Hanging is too good for anyone from Franc
Re:I've been programming for 3 years (Score:2)
Well, actually you're right, but you're not telling them the whole story.
The big ticket item there is the security clearance. Those are *very* expensive to get (no, YOU do not and can not pay for one, you have to be sponsored by an employer/the military who says that you need one). He's right about how badly having done drugs (this includes going out & getting drunk a lot, too, folks!) or marrying non-US citizens. Hell, extensive foreign travel and any number of other things can make you loo
Re:I've been programming for 3 years (Score:2)
Speaking from someone who's worked in the the defense industry for 10 years on some prety serious shit: none of this is particularly accurate.
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Re:I've been programming for 3 years (Score:2)
I know of plenty of folks who were rejected who aren't exactly particularly untrustworthy. Then again, I suppose that I don't know what all would be found in a full background investigation of them...
The other issue is that it's expensive to do these, so they avoid going through the whole screening process
Re:I've been programming for 3 years (Score:2)
I've only ever seen one person rejected for a clearance. He was rejected because years before, he had worked on the Middle East Peace Council. So he was personally acquainted with a handful of terrorists.
Ironically, before 9/11 this fact didn't prevent him from holding clearances under a different organizati
Re:I've been programming for 3 years (Score:2)
You can also fail the polygraph. It doesn't help much knowing their false positive rate.
You can also be considered too irresponsible, though the debt and drug use bit covers much of that.
That said, I'd still jump at the chance to get a clearance--you're not kidding about how much they're worth
Re:I've been programming for 3 years (Score:2)
Most clearances do not involve a poly. That's a special ticket.
My understanding is that SCI...
Some tickets require special background checks, and maybe, as you noted, a poly. This is a big deal, because people often really don't want to take polys. Lots of people refuse, and thereby also refuse the ticket.
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