Comments like this leaving me wondering why anyone should bother giving two weeks notice. Just tell the company at the end of the day, "I'm leaving and not coming back."
companies in the US no longer DESEVE 2 weeks notice. the rules are no longer valid; they won't give YOU notice. don't give them any courtesy they won't give you.
there is no loyalty anymore, so why play old games that are no longer valid?
you are a cog. you are just a worker.
just leave on the say you give notice. business is business, tell them you need to do what's best for you and that means leaving today.
they won't give you the same respect they 'expect' from you, so don't give it to them (anymore).
sad that its like this, but IT IS. only newbies and fools have loyalty to companies, now.
companies in the US no longer DESEVE 2 weeks notice. the rules are no longer valid; they won't give YOU notice. don't give them any courtesy they won't give you.
Most companies do pay a severance package, and it's normally more than 2 weeks' pay.
and there are huge strings attached. you have to promise (writing) not to due them for any reason, ever. you have to obey other rules (never say anything bad about them on forums, etc etc).
and if you are a contractor, you get walked out in 0 or 1 days, no severance, no nothing. last time I was let go (as a contractor) the manager didn't even have the common human courtesy to speak to me or give me the reason for the dismissal. total surprise, came out of nowhere (I was meeting
I'm probably older than you, my friend. I've had contracts end. Whatever, it's just business. I don't really care if I get notice or not. My rates are based on working only 9 months out of the year. If they want knowledge transfer sessions, they give me notice. If not, no skin off my back.
My experience was different. In my contracting gigs, I was always told in advance when my last day was. In one case (working on home mortgage modeling when the subprime crisis hit), I got two weeks' notice. It was the first time in months I'd be confident I'd be working for them the next week.
However, I'm not signing any severance forms again without talking to a lawyer.
There is this concept about burning your bridges. Being that person that just leaves without notice might catch up to you.
I had to give four months notice for a job; that is absurd. Two weeks keeps options open. Employees are also eligible for unemployment insurance, while employers don't have "cog insurance". Employees can dispute wrongful dismissal. The balance of power is much more equal than most people realize, until you get up to companies with over 5,000 employees or so.
companies in the US no longer DESEVE 2 weeks notice. the rules are no longer valid; they won't give YOU notice. don't give them any courtesy they won't give you.
Fact is, while I sure don't have personal relationships with companies, they are full of people that a) I have a working history with, b) can be references for future employment and c) may hire me again (or I may seek to hire them). It's not for the company that you give 2 weeks, it's for your coworkers. And you can, theoretically, just notice the folks who will be impacted by your departure and not your employer, but that's not really workable.
Pretending like you walking out on your coworkers is anythin
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2 weeks notice? Fuggedabouit (Score:2)
Comments like this leaving me wondering why anyone should bother giving two weeks notice. Just tell the company at the end of the day, "I'm leaving and not coming back."
Re:2 weeks notice? Fuggedabouit (Score:4, Insightful)
companies in the US no longer DESEVE 2 weeks notice. the rules are no longer valid; they won't give YOU notice. don't give them any courtesy they won't give you.
there is no loyalty anymore, so why play old games that are no longer valid?
you are a cog. you are just a worker.
just leave on the say you give notice. business is business, tell them you need to do what's best for you and that means leaving today.
they won't give you the same respect they 'expect' from you, so don't give it to them (anymore).
sad that its like this, but IT IS. only newbies and fools have loyalty to companies, now.
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companies in the US no longer DESEVE 2 weeks notice. the rules are no longer valid; they won't give YOU notice. don't give them any courtesy they won't give you.
Most companies do pay a severance package, and it's normally more than 2 weeks' pay.
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most? not in my experience!
and there are huge strings attached. you have to promise (writing) not to due them for any reason, ever. you have to obey other rules (never say anything bad about them on forums, etc etc).
and if you are a contractor, you get walked out in 0 or 1 days, no severance, no nothing. last time I was let go (as a contractor) the manager didn't even have the common human courtesy to speak to me or give me the reason for the dismissal. total surprise, came out of nowhere (I was meeting
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I'm probably older than you, my friend. I've had contracts end. Whatever, it's just business. I don't really care if I get notice or not. My rates are based on working only 9 months out of the year. If they want knowledge transfer sessions, they give me notice. If not, no skin off my back.
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My experience was different. In my contracting gigs, I was always told in advance when my last day was. In one case (working on home mortgage modeling when the subprime crisis hit), I got two weeks' notice. It was the first time in months I'd be confident I'd be working for them the next week.
However, I'm not signing any severance forms again without talking to a lawyer.
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I don't think I've ever seen this opinion expressed using proper capitalization.
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There is this concept about burning your bridges. Being that person that just leaves without notice might catch up to you.
I had to give four months notice for a job; that is absurd. Two weeks keeps options open. Employees are also eligible for unemployment insurance, while employers don't have "cog insurance". Employees can dispute wrongful dismissal. The balance of power is much more equal than most people realize, until you get up to companies with over 5,000 employees or so.
Companies are full of people (Score:2)
companies in the US no longer DESEVE 2 weeks notice. the rules are no longer valid; they won't give YOU notice. don't give them any courtesy they won't give you.
Fact is, while I sure don't have personal relationships with companies, they are full of people that a) I have a working history with, b) can be references for future employment and c) may hire me again (or I may seek to hire them). It's not for the company that you give 2 weeks, it's for your coworkers. And you can, theoretically, just notice the folks who will be impacted by your departure and not your employer, but that's not really workable.
Pretending like you walking out on your coworkers is anythin