Vulcan is that. It will simplify the driver writing (at least in theory). The spec comes out soon and should change linux gaming as we will start getting parity with windows.
Part of me wonders if this is deliberate. No graphics drivers that are useful, no games. No games, no Linux desktop.
Why? AMD has no stake or interest in what OS you game on, they're just looking to sell their hardware. They get no benefit from enabling or pushing a migration to Linux unless they can steal customers from nVidia/Intel that way, which seems highly unlikely. You don't need a conspiracy to explain why companies don't do things that don't benefit them.
They get no benefit from enabling or pushing a migration to Linux unless they can steal customers from nVidia/Intel that way, which seems highly unlikely.
I get the sentiment of this, but there are several scenarios where pushing people to Linux (and getting existing Linux users) would benefit them. First that comes to my mind is that users that build systems from scratch at home overlap quite a bit with Linux users, and most of those users go for best bang for the buck, which has traditionally been AMD. You can also get more enterprise-level features from AMD in consumer level cpus (ex. ECC memory support; ex. latest features (sata, usb3, etc) come to AMD mo
And yet, the video driver is still called atikmdag.sys. Yes, even in the latest drivers. There's probably a perfectly valid reason for this related to legacy support of older software, but still.
Classic tip from Thomas Jefferson: "Nothing gives one person so much advantage over another as to remain always cool and unruffled under all circumstances."
my question as a linux user is this: two years ago NVidia, after Linus flipped the bird, swore theyd make up for shortcomings in their open source driver. Has this manifested? does the linux open source driver for NVidia trumph the AMD open source radeon driver yet?
Seem like they support a later OpenGL version and more OpenGL features at least: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.p... [phoronix.com] "Nouveau's NVC0 Gallium3D driver for GeForce GTX 400 "Fermi" GPUs and newer has all of OpenGL 4.0 and is even advertising OpenGL 4.1 compliance as shown by the screenshots I took with a GeForce GTX TITAN on Mesa Git this morning. The Intel i965 DRI driver just has a few extensions to enable for OpenGL 4.0 support as does the AMD Radeon R600/RadeonSI Gallium3D drivers. The Softpipe and LLVMpipe so
"AMD does a great job of getting open source?" AMD is the one flipping the bird, they burned users of Radeon HD 4xxx and below in Linux. This hardware was shipping integrated in new desktops/laptops in 2011+, and they abandoned their driver by 2013, leaving something that will only run in old X, so basically useless in anything Ubuntu 12.04.1 or newer.
It just takes one big FU like this for me to make sure everybody knows what AMD really thinks about Linux.
HOST SYSTEM NOT RESPONDING, PROBABLY DOWN. DO YOU WANT TO WAIT? (Y/N)
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Part of me wonders if this is deliberate. No graphics drivers that are useful, no games. No games, no Linux desktop.
What Linux needs is something like Apple's Metal, an API to help with performance.
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Vulcan is that. It will simplify the driver writing (at least in theory). The spec comes out soon and should change linux gaming as we will start getting parity with windows.
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Yeah why aren't they prioritizing that 1% Linux marketshare?
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Yeah why aren't they prioritizing that 1% Linux marketshare?
You mean 11%, right? Android is Linux, and Nvidia makes Android graphics chips. (And CPUs) ATI does not. Hmmm...
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I didn't realize my smartphone had PCI-E slots.
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Part of me wonders if this is deliberate. No graphics drivers that are useful, no games. No games, no Linux desktop.
Why? AMD has no stake or interest in what OS you game on, they're just looking to sell their hardware. They get no benefit from enabling or pushing a migration to Linux unless they can steal customers from nVidia/Intel that way, which seems highly unlikely. You don't need a conspiracy to explain why companies don't do things that don't benefit them.
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They get no benefit from enabling or pushing a migration to Linux unless they can steal customers from nVidia/Intel that way, which seems highly unlikely.
I get the sentiment of this, but there are several scenarios where pushing people to Linux (and getting existing Linux users) would benefit them. First that comes to my mind is that users that build systems from scratch at home overlap quite a bit with Linux users, and most of those users go for best bang for the buck, which has traditionally been AMD. You can also get more enterprise-level features from AMD in consumer level cpus (ex. ECC memory support; ex. latest features (sata, usb3, etc) come to AMD mo
LOL (Score:0, Flamebait)
AMD writes shitty half assed drivers and you are still sucking their dick.
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I thought that was ATI.
Honestly, grow the fuck up you childish fucking idiot.
Your id is too low for you to not actually be a fucking adult. Start acting like one.
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AMD acquired ATI almost a decade ago...
And yet, the video driver is still called atikmdag.sys. Yes, even in the latest drivers. There's probably a perfectly valid reason for this related to legacy support of older software, but still.
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Umm, you don't seem to act any smarter yourself.
Classic tip from Thomas Jefferson: "Nothing gives one person so much advantage over another as to remain always cool and unruffled under all circumstances."
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my question as a linux user is this: two years ago NVidia, after Linus flipped the bird, swore theyd make up for shortcomings in their open source driver. Has this manifested? does the linux open source driver for NVidia trumph the AMD open source radeon driver yet?
Seem like they support a later OpenGL version and more OpenGL features at least:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.p... [phoronix.com]
"Nouveau's NVC0 Gallium3D driver for GeForce GTX 400 "Fermi" GPUs and newer has all of OpenGL 4.0 and is even advertising OpenGL 4.1 compliance as shown by the screenshots I took with a GeForce GTX TITAN on Mesa Git this morning. The Intel i965 DRI driver just has a few extensions to enable for OpenGL 4.0 support as does the AMD Radeon R600/RadeonSI Gallium3D drivers. The Softpipe and LLVMpipe so
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"AMD does a great job of getting open source?" AMD is the one flipping the bird, they burned users of Radeon HD 4xxx and below in Linux. This hardware was shipping integrated in new desktops/laptops in 2011+, and they abandoned their driver by 2013, leaving something that will only run in old X, so basically useless in anything Ubuntu 12.04.1 or newer.
It just takes one big FU like this for me to make sure everybody knows what AMD really thinks about Linux.