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Cheap Web Hosting for Individuals or Small Firms? 20

aliebrah asks: "I recently registered a .org domain for myself and my family and do not have the time, money, or technical expertise to handle all of the administration. I'm sure a lot of individuals and small firms are in the same position as me. What recommendations do you have for people like us, who need cheap Web Hosting, a few e-mail addresses, and DNS. I don't care if it runs on Windows, Linux or even on a Macintosh. As long as the thing works. It's not really an option to use more than one company to host different parts of the domain, cause it's too expensive. Can you guys give us some ideas on what to look for, what to avoid, and how much money we minimally need to spend to get what we need. "
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  • About 6 months ago, I was in need of a domain hoster for a personal/family site (I really only wanted it for email). My needs were a simple and small web page, unlimited email forwarding and a few pop email boxes. I started with hostsave.com (like $6.95/month with quarterly payments). I had no major problems with this service, but I wanted the ability to telnet and host database stuff.

    I switched to your-site.com (more features and less cost). With a yearly prepay, it comes to $5/month. With this you get good basic features (5 pop email, email aliases/forwading, web space, CGI ability). You can also add database hosting for cheap (like $2/month). So far I hve been pretty happy. The transfer was quick and painless (I requested my account friday afternoon and it was transfered on a saturday).
  • I also have a csoft.net account and I've been satisfied with it. I haven't deployed anything significant. I just use it as a testbed for trying things out, but it seems to work well. They have ssh access, unlimited email forwarding addresses in addition to one or more POP mailboxes.

    I especially like that they use suExec for Apache so that all your scripts run under your own userid. This means that you can set the permissions on your scripts to 700 and you don't have to use lax directory permissions if you want your scripts to have write access.

    They also provide mySQL and a free domain with the name userid.csoft.net if you don't want to register your own domain.

    They also allow reselling, but I can't comment on that since I haven't used it.
  • Hi everybody, I am also shopping for a web host. My main requirement are access to a database (MySQL ok, PostgreSQL best) and permission to use custom CGI. I recently spotted Perlfect [perlfect.com], wich seem to fit my need pretty well. I have'nt investigated their service very much, but they look proficient. Worth a look.
  • Check with your local LUG (or *UG) or local "mom and pop" ISP. Many will host non-profit sites very low cost or even free. And these types of providersare very easy to work with, and will offer much help with config, admin, etc. My best friend has a BSD server colocated that i could host the site for you, I'd be glad to work with you. (Email me if you are interested.)

    -mark
  • Is at www.dpworld.net [dpworld.net] -- if you mainly just want unlimited POP3 and mail forwarding boxes and a very small (1 MB storage) web site, they have a $60 one-time setup with no monthly or annual fees.

    My family site is there -- I use their email service and have a main family page. Sub-pages link to free web space providers such as Crosswinds.net [crosswinds.net]. You don't have the ability to run much (if any) in the way of CGI scripts, though.

    My biggest complaint about DPWorld is that about once a week, give or take, they are unreachable for a few hours.

    --

  • Unfortunately, I've got to move one of my sites this week. It's been with Adgrafix [adgrafix.com] for 3 months. Last three weeks I've had spot difficulties in retrieving pages, ftp'ing my server, telnetting my server, contact times getting longer and longer at certain times of the day. Tracerouting my server shows that the problem is between their gateway and my server, cpu usage on my server has been maxed out quite often. Worst part is, they think they're Microsoft 'cause when you contact tech support they start telling you that the problem must be with your box, "have you tried rebooting?", (yeah, right) etc. I don't have any idea where I'm going to take my account yet but, if I were you, I'd avoid Adgrafix like the plague.

    Of course, ymmv (again - yeah, right)

    Cheers.
  • For good bang for your buck, you might try resellers/partners. [Disclaimer: I run a reselling company myself, so my opinion is obviously a bit skewed.] With reselling, you get the benefits of big-name company uptime and connection speeds with more personal tech support and often, more lax rules as to what you can do with your server. Of course, the experience varies based on who you rent space from and who your reseller is working with. Before I started up myself, I tried a few companies, some of which were great, and others which were atrocious. Do your research, tread carefully...

    Benjamin Stiglitz
    KEScom Hosting
    ben@kescom.net
  • I went through the same process a while ago looking for a WebSP with good connectivity, no bandwidth limits or fees, lots of storage and good server-side services like perl/PHP etc. I ended up with Communitech.net [communitech.net]. I had heard they'd had some service and customer service problems a year or two ago, but they have been very good while I have been there, and the price is very reasonable. I think it's $29 per month. From their newsletter, I gather they've put a lot of work into redundant systems and reliability and they seem to have geat connectivity. They're in St Louis, MO. You can try our web site at http://www.3dnature.com [3dnature.com] if you want traceroutes or bandwidth tests or anything.



    Plusses:

    • They have a neat Java-based Control Panel app for remotely adminning most of your web account settings. Very nice.
    • NT/IIS or Solaris/Apache 1.3.3 based hosting. We use Solaris/Apache.
    • PHP3, Perl, MySQL, ASP, FrontPage, ColdFusion, RealNetworks, shopping carts, FTP, SSL, Chat, more. [communitech.net]


    Minuses:

    • Tech support must initially be made by e-mail, telephone contact is only initiated if Communitech feels it is necessary. E-mail support is usually quite good though.
    • Their VirtualServer/VirtualDomain package _requires_ that their servers run mail for your domain as well as web hosting. They do allow for forwarding, mailing lists, lots of mailboxes, etc, and it can all be controlled through the control panel. But, if you like doing your own sendmail and MX for your domain, you may find it annoying that they won't make exceptions.
    • Set up fee of $35 unless you pre-pay 6 months. You must sign up and pre-pay at least 3 months to start. I think there's a refund if you bail.

    Dunno if they have a referral deal or anything, but if you decide to go with them, mention my name -- maybe my hosting bill will go down. ;)

  • A while back, I discovered csoft.net through a /. banner ad. Love 'em. Billed quarterly, cheap and effective. Domain-named accounts as low as US$10/month. If you just want a personal account with some space and lots of CGI, PHP etc access, it's all there for US$5. They're based in canada, and VERY supportive of open-source, which includes their own servers. All BSD and Linux. Shell, several addresses, redirectors, etc. Check out http://www.csoft.net [csoft.net], for more details. They're knowledgeable and helpful. When I've needed service, my contact has always been available. Uptime is quite impressive for a smaller outfit. I don't have anything negative to say about them, and their policy on hosting is quite liberal, which is refreshing. Disclaimer: I have no business relationship with them as far as equity or anything, I'm just a happy customer, although you may feel free to mention my name as a referral. wink wink.

    Also, I do have to give a shout-out to some friends of mine at Meticulous.com [meticulous.com], who do bangup jobs of running database-driven sites using open-source technology, such as Nancies.org [nancies.org], the fan-based Dave Matthews Band site, and Viber.net [viber.net], the Agents of Good Roots' fan-site. Good peeps. Ask for Bobo/John or Waldo.

  • I have 2 sites currently hosted with digitalspace.net [digitalspace.net]. My sites are small, so I like their 5MB for $2/mo plan. Some other cool things are you can have them add more domains to the root or a subdirectory for just the setup charge. Extra space is also only $.35/MB/mo. On my second site I have the DNS hosted elsewhere, which is something they don't mind at all (I specifically asked). You probably don't want to do that, so you could just use the service they provide.

    Setup is pretty quick - within a couple days, and I haven't had any other problems. They have a 15MB and a 50MB plan (I think the 50MB is $15/mo or so). They also have a generous referral program ($2/referral), so it's nice to tell friends about. I haven't had any problems with speed accessing my site yet, so I highly recommend them. If you decide to use them and you're feeling extra generous, my email the account is on is mooneyj at tcfreenet dot org (appropriately decoded).

  • While not in the "cheapie" range, Vservers and Alabanza are more for the 'power' user, and charge anywhere from 20$ - 60$ depending on whether or not you need things like multiple domains, lots of space, etc.

    I started off with Alabanza [alabanza.com] for a year or two. Absolutely horrible tech support:
    E-mail 1: "Do you guys support mod_perl under Apache?"


    Response 1: "yes"

    E-mail 2: "Could you give me a little more information?"

    Response 2: "Pearl [sic] is installed under /usr/local/bin/perl5"

    ...

    Response 6 (not joking): "No, we don't support mod_perl."
    I probably had cause to contact them for about 5 separate incidents in the year and a half I was with them, and I *consistently* had conversations like this. Connectivity problems were *quite* frequent, and all I could get out of them was a promise that their T3 through another provider was going to be installed Any Day Now for like 6 months, which I never stuck around to see. Their techs couldn't seem to read a traceroute, and kept insisting that it was general "Internet" problems, since everything was fine and dandy at the present time. The last straw was when I attempted to have them add a delegated subdomain pointing to a name server managed by me. Despite an e-mail 6 months previous and another 3 months previous where I explained what I wanted in exhaustive detail and got an "OK" on both occasions (they had a minor history of saying "yes" in one e-mail and then saying "hell no" when I tried to actually do it, so I tried to be very explicit and ask more than one person), they said, "Uhh, no, we don't do this," after I bought the hardware and finally got everything set up. They made a half-hearted apology, but made NO efforts to even compromise (which I would have been happy to do), much less try to keep my business (60-100$/month, I don't remember). When I asked them if I could quote their support e-mails on a web page where I could show the world exactly what their crack team of technical support specialists was capable of, they basically told me that they'd take legal action against any libelous material. Not a pleasant experience all-around.

    So now I'm with Vservers [vservers.com], and was immediately *very* impressed with their setup. You get your own "virtual" filesystem, with whatever software you want to have installed, control of sendmail configuration, Apache server configuration, etc. You have almost as much control over all of these things as you'd have with your own dedicated piece of hardware. Very slick. And if you go with a free DNS service, there's zero additional cost to add new domains (since you get full access to Apache and sendmail's configuration), assuming you don't need any additional HD space (100MB I think is what they give you with my 'Lite' account).

    My only complaint to date has been rather frequent MySQL lock-ups and connection failures in the past month and a half, which (apparently) they knew/know nothing about, which tells me their automated systems monitoring is missing or inadequate. Still waiting for that to be resolved, though their tech support is quite responsive, despite the fact that they seem to abhor tech support e-mails, instead infinitely preferring some web form where I have to fill out a bunch of (sometimes unnecessary) form fields. They even go out of their way to say e-mails get their absolute lowest priority. They don't have an 800 tech support number either, though to be honest, I haven't needed it very much. when I do have to call, I never have to wait on hold (average Alabanza hold time = 15 minutes).
  • netmegs [netmegs.com] is a company I've never used, but they host quake2.com (or whatever it is now). They're only $10 a month for a seemingly decent account.

    I'm sorry. What I meant to say was 'please excuse me.'
    what came out of my mouth was 'Move or I'll kill you!'
  • I was in your position a few years ago. I wanted my own internet server for hosting the family but didn't know much about what to do.

    I did a generic Red Hat install and found a local ISP that would co-locate me for $100 a month. (It has since gone up to $150.)

    That's super-expensive, you say. Not really. When I consider all I've learned, it was the best $100 a month I've ever spent.

    Granted, your site will not be as secure as nsa.gov when it first goes up. But, who cares? So long as you've got a backup, it won't be a big deal if some slim bucket nukes your server. Not that anyone is going to hack you in the first place; you're too low-profile.

    Since putting up the server -- still a 486-66DX with 48 meg of RAM and a 2-gig SCSI drive, by the way, no need to get anything faster for what you're doing -- I've taken on a few small sites for friends. For $25 a month, they get more extensive access than any ISP would allow (shell, CGI, etc.). With just a few people, I basically get my co-location for free.

    So, while it may seem too expensive and a pain in the buttocks now, really think about going the co-located route. The skills you learn now could very possibly get you a job in the future. Not to mention the uber-geek fact that you have your very own server hanging out there on the net.

    Init 'steinhoff.net' Zero

  • You didn't say which country you were in. In the UK, for example, most people get free web hosting.
    (This is one of the side-benefits of metered rather than fixed-rate charging). There are sites you can then use to alias your domain name to what your ISP gave you.
  • I went through the same thought process as you, and ended up with two alternatives:

    1) Send a plea for help to your local LUG, and surely someone locally will offer to host you very cheaply/free.

    2) (the option I chose) Set up a free Nameserver, and a web page redirection.

    http://www.capibara.com has links to lots of free stuff. I use them for domain name redirection to my homepage (also free) on http://www.linuxstart.com/~dualpentium

    Nameserving, which you will need to have the users on the web recognize your domain name can be done at http://www.granitecanyon.com. It takes a little poking around to figure out how to configure your DNS record, but once you have it figured out you only need to contact your registrar (the people you bought the domain from) to change nameservers.

    Finally, find yourself some free webhosting and email. Sure, the email won't go to "yourname@yourdomain.org", but for free, who can complain? Anyway, I use www.mail.com and www.mailandnews.com for my mail. Free web space is hosted any number of places - personally I like www.linuxstart.com

    Any questions, feel free to email me at fprintf@iname - dot - com. (change the -dot- to .)
  • by rjsquire ( 14061 ) on Wednesday March 08, 2000 @07:15AM (#1217622)
    I have recently gone through several hosting companies. I started with pagecreator [pagecreator.net] and finally had to leave because they couldn't administer their mysql server well enough for me to be able to create tables in my own databases. I moved on to cihost [cihost.com] just before their dns servers died. I gave them the benefit of the doubt for a while but the last straw was when I was finally able to log in again only to find my home directory gone and them with no backup. Both of these companies gave me a hard time getting my credit card reimbursed when I cancelled even though I was withing the trial period. I have since settled on phpwebhosting [www.phpwebhosting] and am very happy with the service. Their online sign up is great. You simply fill out the form and they create your account automatically. You instantly have a mysql database with the same name as your username which you log into with your selected password. Within 10 minutes of signing up you can log into http://yourname.phpwebhosting.com which will always be available in case you opt not to get your own domain. They transferred my domain for me within 3 days. You can pay month to month or anually which gives you a small discount. Storage and bandwidth are unlimited and the whole package is only $9.95/month. My site is still very much a work in progress so I can't comment on performance but I recently ftp'd all the packages required to install linux from scratch from all over the web to my directory on their server and then down to my local machine and was very happy with the speed in downloading 145MB. Suffice it to say that I'm pleased with the service.
  • by cr0sh ( 43134 ) on Wednesday March 08, 2000 @07:37AM (#1217623) Homepage
    I have had only two providers so far to host my site (which, as of now, has yet to actually go online, but that is another story). Both have been great providers, and why I switched from one to the other will become apparent.

    My first provider was WebCom [webcom.com], an outfit in Cali (IIRC). Their interface was fast, and they were real easy to set up with. Everything is web based - no need to telnet or FTP or anything (though I think this may be an option). Security is real tight - they don't allow outside developed scripts for CGI, you can only use what they have. If you are setting up an e-commerce site (I don't think you are, but if you want to...), this place is perfect - the CGI they offer is mainly for such a site, with shopping cart CGI and such, plus the option of CC verification. Customer support was great, the best of any provider I have had. They also seemed to have great uptime. Cost for the service was a little high for such hosting (and for what you got), but I think the security of the site and the customer service made up for it. Now, with all these great features, why did I switch?

    They were too restrictive.

    I _wanted_ to telnet in, FTP in - not as an option, but as the standard way of doing things. I wanted shell access to my account, and I wanted to be able to write my own CGI scripts for my site (hey, if I needed shopping cart software, I could write it myself, or find it on the net). I wanted some kind of *nix for the site. I wanted more space, and any web interface I used, I wanted to be short and to-the-point. I also wanted a place that didn't care too much about what I put on my site, or if I wanted to "rent" a portion of my site for others pages. After a bit of searching, and a banner or two on /. - I found such a site:

    Hurricane Electric [he.net]

    I chose them because of these reasons. Their customer service so far has been great. Most questions you have, though, can be answered by reading through the online documentation. This is a site that presumes you know what you are doing - they don't do hand holding here. This is what I wanted (having started using the internet via a dialup shell account back in 1993, I don't have a fear of *nix command lines - in fact, I love them). I have them auto-bill my credit card, so I don't have to mess with billing (they still send out an invoice in my email, so I can see what is happening - and I can check the charges online). I can telnet or FTP in from anywhere, and check my mail with PINE - or I can set up a POP client to read my email. The former is useful for work, if I just want to check up on anything, while I use the latter for home, where I would actually answer my email.

    The one thing they don't allow is mailing-list scripts (which is understandable). So, for my future site, which I plan on having a mailing list, I am going to use eGroups, and for my webring, I will use Webring (I could have set up my own private webring, using some PERL script I found on the net, with a little tweaking, but the only reason I was thinking of going that route, was because I didn't know if Webring support Lynx clients - they do, so I didn't feel I wanted to waste time going the custom route). Which brings me to my last point...

    It seems like HE understands the net - they don't use glitzy graphics or such for their site - it is fast and efficient HTML - heck, it even looks hand coded (I don't know how true this is), which I like (I detest WYSIWYG editors - VI is your friend!). They understand that information is what makes the net go, that graphics can get in the way, especially when not used properly.

    Their prices are competitive, and you get a lot of space for little money per month (not as much as some places, but enough for most sites). But they are not for the faint of heart, or for those who need help setting up a site - go to WebCom for that.
  • by techmage ( 72232 ) <.joe.latrell. .at. .quub.space.> on Wednesday March 08, 2000 @07:17AM (#1217624) Homepage
    I have a few small sites that I take care of. None of the owners wanted to spend a large sum of money so I directed them to Huricane Electric (www.he.net [he.net]). They have a lot of features and the price is right (starts at $10 a month). I haven't really found anything much cheaper that allowed all that HE does.

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