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21" LCD Monitor Kits? 15

Dee asks: "My firm has an opportunity to build a 21" NEC flat panel LCD monitor into a custom enclosure. As the OEM, we can do pretty much anything with the case. We're looking at deep drawn aluminum cases, anodized in any color you can name. A search on here shows that a generic 18" LCD in a plastic enclosure retails for $649 or so. What price range are people willing to pay for a 21" LCD? Would people be interested in a DIY kit for the display?" Frankly, I'd be more interested in seeing what one of these monsters might look like before I'd be able to say how much I'd pay for one, still the idea sounds intriguing in and of itself. Pricewatch has them in the $2-3k range, these days, in case you were wondering.
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21" LCD Monitor Kits?

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  • Well, I'm currently staring at a 19", IBM fixed frequency monitor, and it often seems too small. On the other hand it was cheap $50 and works, even if it does take up half the space on my desk.

    I've been watching the LCD panels with interest, but I'm not willing/able to pay much of a premium price for one.
  • Yes, $2-$3k seems high end for LCDs. If the visual quality of the NEC doesn't match up with other LCDs in that range, then don't choose an enclosure that puts the LCD out of its league.

    The only people I know that consistently wish for an LCD are the same people that can't see the difference between a $150 shadow mask CRT and a $1200 aperture grille CRT or the difference between 70Hz and 85Hz.

    Unless it is impossible to use a CRT in a certain application, I personally wouldn't be too interested in an LCD.
    • by PD ( 9577 ) <slashdotlinux@pdrap.org> on Saturday December 01, 2001 @08:32PM (#2642436) Homepage Journal
      OK, I'm one of those people. I think that an LCD looks different than a monitor, but it's just as good.

      Just for the record, I also:

      -cannot distinguish cilantro and parsley by sight or smell

      -believe that Cmdr. Taco chose a nice color scheme for /.

      -don't see what's all that great about HP calculators

      -can't tell the difference between IDE and SCSI

      -eat hamburgers with the crown facing the floor and the heel facing the ceiling

      -usually like the sequel better than the original

      -will listen to a remake of any Elvis Presley song

      -always like the movie much better than the book

      AND

      -think that Miller Beer both tastes great and is less filling
  • less eye strain... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    I have an 18" LCD that I use everyday, at least 10 hours a day. Its great - it doesn't flicker, its not too bright, and it gives me less eyestrain. Not only that it takes up less deskspace than a CRT, and draws less power (ergo it produces less heat, and my electricity bill is cheaper).

    LCDs are often slated for their slow refresh rate - but I don't play games - I'm a developer, it only needs to keep up with my keystroke rate (which is actually quite poor...).

    I can't praise my LCD enough, but it was very expensive. Thats the only let down with these things...

    I'd certainly be interested in a larger LCD, but at the moment I'm poor...
  • by Visoblast ( 15851 ) on Sunday December 02, 2001 @05:32AM (#2643281) Homepage
    What's this about too slow refresh rates for LCDs? 60Hz vertical refresh on an LCD is just fine.

    The primary reason for having high refresh rates on CRTs is to reduce flicker. The flicker exists because a CRT only lights a point on the screen at any given time and scans horizontal lines from top to bottom.

    In contrast, an LCD lights the entire image at all times, so there is no flicker and no need to go faster than 60Hz vertical refresh. A CRT, however, will benifit greatly from a higher refresh rate.

    BTW: I have a Nokia branded Sony Triniton CRT display sitting next to an SGI 1600SW LCD (Mitsbishi made display, like the Apply Cinima Display). The SGI LCD has superior focus and notably less flicker than the CRT when the CRT is used at 85Hz (which I do think is far better than the CRT at 60 or 70HZ).

    I also do video work with the SGI LCD. It is plenty fast enough for that, so I gather it's fast enough for most games.
    • I thought that the Apple Cinema Display was OEM'd by Samsung (in whom Apple own a stake)? The SGI display has a very good pixel density, but the Apple display is more usable and has better colour IMHO.
    • 60Hz vertical refresh[...]when the CRT is used at 85Hz (which I do think is far better than the CRT at 60 or 70HZ).


      Hertz, shmertz. When will you people learn about the Hz myth? (the lesser-known child of the MHz myth). Maybe AMD should come up with 70 Hz displays and market them as Display XP 85+

  • I have at work wonderful black IBM T750 TFT screen, which is 17-inch and is much less expensive then 18-inch IBM T86H. They both have 1280x1024 as a native resolution. My dream is to have laptop with 17 or 18 TFT screen. Now when prices are so low at least for 17-inch model I wonder how long will take to see first laptop (??) of this kind. Is anyone sharing the same dream with me?
  • I would love to see an affordable TFT monitor kit for the 2048x1536 20.8 inch viewable 300:1 contrast raio IBM ITQX20 TFT monitor described at http://www-6.ibm.com/jp/oemj/lcd/itqx20.htm [ibm.com]. The display costed $2k or less to OEM's a year ago, but the companies that build monitors from it charge ~$6k for the monitor with video card. That's a big mark-up for a dual LVDS video card (digital end-to-end), a power supply and some plastic.

    I think there is still some additional programming productivity to be had from a bigger monitors, so I think it would be an appealing purchase for software devopers if you could get it down to ~$2k (hopefully due to volume).

    By the way, for anyone whose sights are set higher than this, there was an article about how IBM also makes a similar 22" 3840x2400 TFT monitor [slashdot.org] that they were selling for $16k.

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