Internet Friendly Cruise Lines? 43
ttyp0 asks: "The team of upper management at my company, including myself want to take a week long cruise vacation together. Unfortunately, being away from the office and unable access the Internet is terrifying in the case of an emergency. Are there any cruise lines that provide internet access in the cabins (ethernet jack)? If you've been on a cruise recently, who do you recommend?" Those boats are big enough, you figure at least one of the larger cruise lines have thrown a modest satellite and a small Internet cafe on one by now.
Re:DUH (Score:2, Interesting)
I can tell you the most you will get is a web browser with that is only allowed on port 80 and 443, through a proxy. Basically its used to browse the web and nothing else. We tried to get them to open up more ports (to allows Citrix for example) and not a chance!. Too much of a security risk.
Is it just me, but I am getting tired of everything I need to do being a security risk, and how can accessing my office computer via the Java Citrix client be a security risk. I think its more that they have non-technical people onboard who don't know or care about the issues
Re:DUH (Score:1)
Security Holes
Need I say more?
Of course, there is that plank.......
Re:DUH (Score:2)
Google says... (Score:2, Informative)
Try that.
OK, here's the deal: (Score:3, Insightful)
- INMARSAT is not cheap, but could be available. Better grease up--when I say it's not cheap, I mean it's not cheap.
- If you can't be incommunicado during your vacation, perhaps a cruise isn't the best choice of vacation?
When I went on a cruise.... (Score:4, Informative)
The downside of their net access be listed:
- slow access, similar to a 56k modem.
- has to use their equipment setup, could not use my laptop.
- had to use their intergrated desktop envirnoment which is designed to charge the used by the minute, using your cabin card.
- i could only use an older version of IE at the time which did not have java support.
The way I got around this was to use VNC viewer to connect to my office machine, and use what software I needed to on that side such as my email and instant messengaging clients.
Another thing to note is that some ports of call do have net access. I can recall 3 cities on my trip with their own net access. There could have been more, but I wasn't looking for them. They were usually in near plain site, because of the tourists.
If this is not up to your liking, then I would say bring your own satellite hardware. But if you're on vacation, then keep it that way. Enjoy the vacation and pretend you don't have access. That's pretty much what I did.
Royal Carribean (Score:2)
The cruises have a public lounge where you get Internet access (there may be a fee, I forget) and you can also get it in your cabin for $$$$.
And it's true you can get net access in port...even in places like St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands, there are places that let you fax/email/Internet right by the dock.
- adam
Hmm ... how about instead ... (Score:1)
Iridium Phone (Score:2)
$250 for Data connector
$1.50 per min of 9600 baud
(the phone looks like a slow serial modem to your computer)
I've used a Psion Revo, null-modem cable and Iridium phone to telnet into servers while on vacation - works well for me, and the whole package weighs about 4 pounds.
Princess - Their Grand Boat (Score:3, Informative)
AOL Internet Cafés
Aboard the Sun, Dawn, Sea, Ocean, Royal, Regal, Grand and Golden Princess you can keep in touch while you're at sea. Extended hours are available allowing you to send and receive email, browse the Internet and utilize the Center's computers for word processing. Programs available include Microsoft Office (Word, Excel, etc.), Corel Suite (WordPerfect, Corel Draw, etc.), Lotus Suite (Lotus 1, 2, 3) and AOL. Printing and photocopying services are also available. We encourage you to contact your ship's Computer Officer to discuss your specific needs and the charges that apply for these services.
I have been on 4 princess cruises, and they are a very nice way to travel.
Computer Officer?! (Score:1)
Um where do I apply for that job? Do I get, like, a cool Gopher [toymania.com] hat to wear around too?
Re:Princess - Their Grand Boat (Score:2)
Re:Princess - Their Grand Boat (Score:1)
Pringles can (Score:1)
Re:GeekCruises.com (Score:1)
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/1461
http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2002/06/07/
http://blog.glennf.com/gmblog/archives/00000195.h
http://doc.weblogs.com/
http://www.backupbrain.com/2002_05_26_archive.htm
http://www.darwinmag.com/read/0502/macmania_conte
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/30/technology/circ
http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0205/28.macma
http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0205/31.pogue
http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0206/01.macma
http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/index.html - May 27, May 31, June 3rd
Geeky Cruise Line (Score:2, Informative)
It's neat.
Re:Geeky Cruise Line (Score:5, Informative)
Linux Lunacy II - Western Caribbean - October 20-27, 2002
Ft. Lauderdale, FL - Cozumel, Mexico - Georgetown, Grand Cayman - Ocho Rios, Jamaica - Half Moon Cay, Bahamas - Ft. Lauderdale
Seminars include: Learning Perl, Introduction to the Linux Kernel, Introduction to Python, Application Development with Python, More Than You Ever Wanted to Know About Filesystems, User Interface Programming and Architecture using Embedded Linux, Programming without Perl, Introduction to Zope 3, Building Ad Hoc Serverless Communities, Integrating Linux into a Small Business, Code Inspections and Reviews, Bullet Proofing, Paranoia, and Mucking Out, Vim for Vi Users, The Open Source Revolution, The Zen of UNIX, Twenty Years Among the Hackers, The Great Brain Race, Graphical User Interfaces using Embedded Linux, Web Application Attacks and Countermeasures 101, Web Application Attacks and Countermeasures 202, Digital Forensics Using Open Source Tools, and Preparing for Incident Response and Forensics.
On board, what Net connections will be available?
Holland America has equipped its ships for Internet connectivity. Called the "Internet Cafe," this room (which is open 24 hours a day) has six to 12 PCs with realtime browser access to the Internet.
Will my PC work aboard ship?
Each stateroom is equipped with 110-volt, 60-cycle alternating current. So most hair dryers, electric shavers, portable computers, and other small appliances not exceeding 500 watts (110 volts) may be used in the stateroom outlets. Having said that, many staterooms have only one outlet, so we suggest you bring a power strip!
My significant other is doubtful about cruising with a ship full of geeks, but I want him/her to come along with me.
The ship holds about 1,400 people and only about 300 of that number will be Geek Cruisers, including their non-geek spouses, friends, and family members. So, actually, it's the geeks who will be in the minority. Your spouse will have plenty of company.
There's a lot more at their website, but that should sum it up really well.
DAMIT oct 20-27 (Score:1)
Disney cruise line (Score:2)
No net access, and a sat connection to a land phone was 13$+ a minute, my dad made one call, and it came to 65.something$
There phones did have data jacks, so I guess if you absolutely wanted just to check your e-mail, you could though.
Re:Disney cruise line (Score:2)
I did manage to flirt my way to some free time. I 'caught' the hostess using AIM... I told her I was an IM user and wanted to see if some of my friends were on. She logged me in so I didn't have to pay the $$ but I could use AIM express.
It was OK... not DSL/Cable speeds but faster than 56K.
Celebrity Infinity (Score:1)
Article about Geek Cruises (Score:2)
I came across an O'Reilly article [macdevcenter.com] today that discusses this. It's titled "Wireless at Sea: A Report from the MacMania Alaska Cruise".
An excerpt:
--Bruce
Norwegian (Score:2)
Carnival (Score:2, Insightful)
No net access in cabins, but they had an Internet 'Lounge' that had about 24 machines running Internet Exporer kiosk-style (no menubar, buttons for BACK, RELOAD, etc., only).
Speed was quite good, at least comparable to the 1.5Mb/sec DSL I have at home. The browser did have Java enabled. I was able to successfully use SSH and VNC (both Java applets from my web server) to get into my FreeBSD box back at home. Didn't try much else except HTTP(S). Of course, once I got VNC open and KDE running in that, I could do anything that way.
Cost was 0.75 per minute, with discounts to something around $0.55 and $0.40 per minute for prepurchasing 100 and 250 minutes, respectively. I only tried it a couple of times, mostly out of curiosity, so I just used the per-minute plan.
There was a two-hour window the second night of the cruise when access was free so you could try it out. Access was only available the first full day through the last full day of the cruise (i.e. not on the first night or last morning)
Royal Caribbean has in room access (Score:2, Funny)
Telephone calls to shore are a killer: 8$/min!
In jamaica, and grand cayman there were internet cafes.
I was on my honeymoon, so I did not so much as even think about touching a keyboard.
Hope this helps!
Not exactly Internet cafe's.... (Score:1)
I used to be a port agent in Alaska for the cruise ships, and the main way we communicated with them, was via email. Much much nicer than telex or fax. I can actually use vowels now
Even with the cargo ships I dealt with, we would just use a service called 'stratosmobile'. We'd email the 'telex' to (theshipstelexnumber)@stratosmobile.net and they would take care of it all.
Its still not cheap, however. A voicelink to a ship, via INMARSAT, *starts* at about 20 bucks. Thats usually just if you want to say hi. Any more, and it really gets expensive. So sat-based internet isn't cheap.
However, almost all the ports of call (in the Northwest, anyway) have internet cafe's. Just ask any crewmember. They all flock to the cafe's. Not to mention, they are in and out of these ports regularly, so they know all the spots. One of the first questions I would always get from new crew, is "Where is internet cafe?".
On a side note, the telecommunications infrastructure of the non-brand-spanking-new ships, is not exactly robust. Running ethernet to every cabin is not exactly an easy thing to do.
The on-board network is usually a core AS/400 server, with a Windows NT client network.
This was a year ago, things might have been upgraded, but I doubt it.
Carnival (Score:1)