


Books on Quantum Mechanics? 79
manjunaths asks: "I would like to ask the physicists here to recommend some books on Quantum Mechanics. For those of us who have a decent background in calculus and have done some advanced physics (field theory, network theory etc.,). The books must have math as well as theoretical explanation. If it has examples which explain/relate to real world physics that would be really nice."
Sounds like Feynman's texbooks (Score:5, Informative)
That is what I heard - but try to ask some physicist next time
Here is a nifty interview with Feynman (1979):
http://www.omnimag.com/archives/intervie
Re:Sounds like Feynman's texbooks (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Sounds like Feynman's texbooks (Score:3, Informative)
[And unlike with the other textbooks, you can hear the guy on audiotapes from live lectures too, with suplemmental sylabus.]
Griffiths (Score:5, Informative)
If you haven't poked around in a lot of intro (or "advanced"!) quantum books, you may not realize how important those things (especially the math bit) are. But it wouldn't matter if hadn't read any other books. If you gave them all a fair shot, you'd choose Griffiths because his explanations are just so much better than everyone else's.
Trust me. Griffiths.
Once you've read it, you may be ready for something more advanced (maybe Sakurai, or even the poorly written but still amazingly complete Cohen and Tannoudji, or even Feynman's QED), but nothing compares to Griffiths for a good introduction to Quantum.
Re:Griffiths (Score:1, Insightful)
However, I'd argue that Shankar's Principles of Quantum Mechanics [amazon.com] book does one better. It's clear, concise, and surprisingly complete. I wouldn't want to learn QM without it.
Re:Griffiths (Score:5, Informative)
However, before you dive into Griffith's, you'll really have to brush up on Calculus and Differential Equations, as well as a variety of mathematics that you probably won't see unless you are going to grad school in math. The best book for this is "Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences" by Mary Boas.
This book was used for the "weed-out" class in the sophomore year at the University of Washington Physics department. The reason was that if you couldn't keep up with the math, and if you couldn't make sense of it all, than you really couldn't cut it as a physicist. It was the class where 100 people show up the first quarter, and 15 show up the next (because the other 85 lost interest or failed). Those 15 graduated with reasonably good grades.
If you complete Boas's book, and you can understand the math behind Griffith's book, then you are well on to your way to grad school in physics, if you desire it. Just brush up in a few other areas (EM, thermo, GR, etc...), and you might be ready for the GRE.
Anyway, it'll be interesting having another "real" physicist around here who actually understands what the Uncertainty Principle really means and where it comes from and its effect on the universe, rather than these posers who have no idea that a fourier transform applies to QM at all.
Re:Griffiths (Score:2, Interesting)
hmmm...i don't think i'd go quite that far. I just finished a two semester intro to quantum mechanics. Most of my classmates used Griffiths, but I chose Shankar's "Principles of Quantum Mechanics." Although Shankar places more demands on the reader initially(by way of mathematical formalism), it definitely pays off in the long run! Near the end of the course, when we delved into
Re:Griffiths (Score:2)
When I went back to Griffiths after some more advanced books (Cohen and Tannoudji, Sakurai, etc.), I was a little disappointed that he didn't use Dirac notation more, but I remember that a lot of my classmates were pretty happy with the balance he struck.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Griffiths and Gasiorowicz (Score:2, Informative)
Quantum Mechanics is a Taoist precept in a way, where only understanding brings understanding.
I think that Griffiths is at its best when you already have some understan
"You can't paint an electron red." (Score:2)
Re:Griffiths (Score:1)
Seriously though, it is a really good book. Good examples, good theory, good explination, and a he really knows his stuff. He was very sure to make the conceptuals clear as well the math. QM is a bit tricky to conceptually understand and so having common pitfalls in conceptual thinking pointed out *really* helps.
-Jeff
P.S. - I'm a General Relativity physicist myself (although I'm currently stuc
Re:Griffiths (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Griffiths (Score:1)
A Bugg
Another Recommendation for Griffiths (Score:1)
QM, sort of? (Score:3, Informative)
In earnest, that book is a work in progress and it's really important to do the problems to get the full meaning from the text.
Hope that helps
Re:QM, sort of? (Score:3, Informative)
My Favorites (Score:2, Informative)
Re:My Favorites (Score:2)
I always thought the jokes were the worst part of that book.
A couple of classics (Score:5, Informative)
But it really depends on YOU, I for one could only learn scattering from Landau, but found the book less than perfect for many other topics. Others in my class had quite the opposite reaction. It depends on what "clicks" for you, and how deep you want to go into what topics.
Balam
Re:A couple of classics (Score:1)
Re:A couple of classics (Score:1)
If the poster was looking for a first book on QM, Landau and Sakurai are certainly too advanced (for example, even though Sakurai explains even the basic formalism, his discussion is too brief to be useful to anyone not already knowing a lot about QM).
It really doesn't matter that much which book you read at this level. I think the best advice would be to visit a university library or a really good book store
Re:A couple of classics (Score:1)
I agree and disagree.
I agree that the choice of books is really a personal one and that the library is your friend. Particulalry given the cost of many of these books! This was exactly the point I was trying to make at the end of my post.
Yet, I have met quite a few people who just "clicked" with Landau and had used it as thier first introduction to QM. These tended to be students who were mathematically inclined and just loved solving the pages and pages of calculus that are required for a serious read
The best (Score:4, Informative)
I'm sure you've heard of the EPR (sometimes called EPR-Bohm) experiments. The last chapters (and best chapters) of the book are where Bohm lays out his idea for an experiment to actually test EPR -- which is more or less the method used today. (written around 1952, I believe. The experiments weren't conducted until the 1980's.)
Although Bohm's book is one of the best defenses of orthodox quantum mechanics, Bohm went on to propose a non-local, hidden variable version of QM several years after writing the textbook. This theory turned out to have been mathematically identical to de Broglie's pilot wave formulation, which he had thrown out because he thought that non-local EPR effects were obviously impossible. Here is a page with introductions: Intros [uni-muenchen.de]. Learn the orthodox theory first.
Certainly Best on Price (Score:1)
I am so glad to see other physicists on
Re:Certainly Best on Price (Score:3, Informative)
No math at all (Score:5, Funny)
Well... (Score:2)
I'm interested in the answer. I haven't seen many books heavy in the math. However, I've got two books I love, which explain the concepts very well for people without a strong mathematics background.
Wolf, Fred Alan. Taking the Quantum Leap. Perennial Library, Harper & Row Publishers. ISBN: 0-06-096310-7
Wolf, Fred Alan. Parallel Universes. A Touchstone Book, published by Simom & Schuster. ISBN: 0-671-69601-7 (-8 for hardback)
Be warned, Parallel Universes has an almost insultingly big fo
Heisenberg ruined it! (Score:4, Funny)
Don't you know that because of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle [washington.edu], the more you read about quantum physics, the less you can actually know about it? Stupid Heisenberg...
Cohen-Tannoudji (Score:2)
re: `Week measurement` - books / resources (Score:1)
Brute force quantum encryption waits for no man
Weak measurement preserves quantum superposition (Score:1)
Weak measurement
See Aharonov's website for publications on superposition-preserving weak measurement techniques.
I have a recent article, experimental description and links detailing the theory, online at http://www.umsl.edu/~altmanc/measurement.html [umsl.edu].
Re:Weak measurement preserves quantum superpositio (Score:1)
all that seems to be there is the NS Article? No matter though, I can google with `Aharonov` now
Here's a few I used during my degree (Score:4, Informative)
Mandl's Quantum Mechanics [amazon.com] in the Manchester Physics Series
Gasiorowicz's Quantum Physics [amazon.com] is absolutely excellent. It goes from simple stuff to pretty complicated stuff and tends to cover things in a thorough, 'no-fudge' way so that you have a solid perspective of how it should be done
Eisberg and Resnick's "Quantum Physics of Atoms, Molecules, Solids, Nuclei, and Particles" [amazon.com] is good for bringing it all together with atomic physics, nuclear physics and particle physics
Bransden and Joachain's "Quantum Mechanics" [amazon.com] Absolutely excellent. Goes into a LOT of details on everything. If there's anything you don't understand, you're likely to find it here in an understandable form (where other books just mention it in passing, this one will actually spell it out in full, which is well nice when you're in trouble with a concept)
That should get you started pretty well. After that you might want to get Dirac's very own book to seriously absorb the dirac notation (I've found that his book was very clear even so many years after it's been written), then you'll need to get into the subject referred to during my degree as "quantum theory" - basically it is to "normal" quantum mechanics as lagrangian mechanics is to classical mechanics... just much nicer!
Good luck,
Daniel
10 years ago... (Score:2)
An Introduction to Quantum Physics, A.P. French and E.F. Taylor. ISBN 0-412-37580-X
When we went on to nuclear physics we used:
Introductory Nuclear Physics, Kenneth S. Krane. ISBN 0-471-85914-1
from a physicist (Score:3, Informative)
You must have physics confused with some other field...
Have you read the Feynman lectures? Those are basically what you want right there. You descibed them perfectly. The compilation is some of the best QM, and is a required "free time" book for physics people.
I've found that quantum chemistry or solid state books often give a better "real world" account of QM. Something like Atkins Molecular Quantum Mechanics or Levine's Quantum Chemstry covers chemistry and Kittel's Solid State covers the rest.
If particle physics and field quantization is more your thing, depending on your level, you might want to start with something like Griffiths or Gasiorowicz. That's what the basic undergrad book is. If those look too simple, I highly recommend Sakurai. Start with his regular book before you look at the advanced one. You won't get through the advanced book unless you really, really know your stuff, but it covers the most mind-blowing aspects of quantum.
(Disclaimer: I study condensed matter, so I might be biased on what is applicable to the real world)
Oh, one other thing. If you want to learn some quantum, the first thing you have to do is learn what the action, Lagrangian and Hamiltonian are. You can try to learn it like a chemist does... in ignorance, but you will actually understand what you're doing if you know what those things are first.
Best layman's guide to QT (Score:1)
J.J. Sakurai (Score:1)
Amazon Link [amazon.com]
A bit expensive, but I found a new one much cheaper at a local store.
This is a very good book, and the good thing about it is that doesn't take a historical approach, but a more logical one. You should check it out.
For more advanced texts you should try his other book "Advanced Quantum Mechanincs" or Dirac's book.
ask Mr Tompkins (Score:2)
Eating Quantum Mechanics (Score:2, Funny)
Ranged weapons are a good way of taking them out
And remember, a box with Schroedinger's cat isn't anything special, just a stupid physics joke =).
Bransden and Joachain (Score:2)
Hughes (Score:1)
Quantum Physics (Score:1)
(i seem to remember reading a copy when i was doing my MPhys Astrophysics course.
Tim
I'm a physics major... (Score:5, Informative)
Eisberg, Resneck - Quantum Physics of Atoms, Molecules, a Solids, Nuclei, and Particles (047187373X) (undergraduate level, introductory)
Sakurai - Modern Quantum Mechanics (0805375015) (graduate level, good for matrix mechanics)
French, Taylor - Quantum Physics (?) (Introductory)
The much touted Griffiths is good as well, but is also very terse and doesn't go very much in depth. There is almost no motivation for QM to begin with. I suggest starting with French and Taylor or Eisberg,Resneck. Then read Sakurai before you are ready to go into field theory.
Re:I'm a physics major... (Score:2)
Two books not yet mentioned above: (Score:3, Informative)
A more advanced book, which also I recommend highly, is the one by Dicke and Wittke [barnesandnoble.com]. These were my first books on QM (I was initially selftaught as an undergraduate, though I took regular courses later).
I also second the suggestions earlier of Sakurai and Feynman Lectures vol III. The latter is an unconventional introduction in that it starts directly with the Dirac bra-ket notation and Hilbert space, but that is really the way most physicists think about quantum mechanics after their first course, and the sooner you get used to it the better. For more advanced material, the Landau and Lifshitz book is one of the best.
On that subject, Dirac's original book on quantum mechanics [barnesandnoble.com] is well worth reading too, though it's not thought of as a textbook.
Re:Two books not yet mentioned above: (Score:2, Informative)
For bonus flavour, find a used copy with the elegant old 1930's typography.
Amazon link here [amazon.com] to go with parent B&N link.
I Didn't Like Saxon (Score:2)
I ended up using the Landau and Lifshitz book.
I found Saxon assumed you knew a lot of math theory, especially around special functions. And too much of the "and the derivation is relatively simple" or "since f(x) is arbitrary within wide bounds, it follows that..."
Re:I Didn't Like Saxon (Score:2)
Merzbacher (Score:1)
books! (Score:3, Insightful)
I haven't seen Griffith's QM text, must've been released in the last ten years. I'm not that big a fan of his E&M text. (Purcell is clearer and more elegant.)
Cohen-Tannoudji, which others have recommended, is an encyclopaedic treatment of non-relativistic QM, and was the de facto standard introductory graduate text for a long time. IMO it's very dryly translated from the French and tedious to learn from. If you have to really do this stuff, you'll probably end up with a copy, though. It's all in there.
The raves about Shankar---also newer than my education---on Amazon seriously tempt me.
My favorite introductory QM text for a long time was Liboff. Odd that no one has recommended it yet. Now I really like the underappreciated gem _Quantum Mechanics_ by Amit Goswami (despite the fact he hangs out with Deepak Chopra these days).
Maybe Griffith is better, but based on my appreciation of his E&M text, I seriously doubt it.
The Bohm book is a great bargain in the Dover edition, as is Pauling's book (oriented towards physical chemists) but both are very dated.
[1] Read the introduction or the afterword, where Feynman talks about what a disaster his attempt to teach introductory physics at Caltech turned out to be. And remember that the average student at Caltech is very smart and very motivated, and he was only able to "reach" the top ~10%. The Feynman lectures are marvels in many ways, but they're terrible pedagogy.
Re:books! (Score:2)
Re:books! (Score:2)
Mr. Tompkins by George Gamow (Score:1, Interesting)
Mr. Tompkins visits lands where h-bar (Planck's constant) is roughly 1, and where the speed of
light is around 50mph.
The tiger diffracting through tall growing grasses
and Mr. Tompkins having to shoot enough bullets to raise the probability density function to save himself from the tiger are true classics.
Also the relativistic effects seen on
Shankar!!!! (Score:2)
I can't believe that no one mentioned Shankar Principles of Quantum Mechanics [amazon.com]. Its the only self contained book with real QM (Dirac's notation). It great, covers all the math you need, has good problems, and its very entertaining.
I think its better that Sakurai (its a finished book, unlike Sakurai, who died before finishing it), and its the real QM (not the lame differential eqn aproach).
The REAL question (OT) (Score:1)
Quantum Theory and Evolution (Score:1)
sak books (Score:1)
The Sakurai [barnesandnoble.com] books are concise and essential. They used to be known a "black sak" (_modern qm_) and "red sak" (_advanced qm_), although nowadays they both sport red covers.
--TRR
Nick Herbert (Score:1)
Quantum Theory and Measurement (Score:2)
Apparently this book is out of print, and I had no idea it was so valuable. It's a good collection of original papers from all parts of the spectrum.
It's probably not for beginners, but it has a lot of deeper information, from original sources.
Good source for sig's too.
For a different approach ... (Score:1)
Re:Griffiths, Shankar, Sakurai, Landau&Lifshit (Score:1)
shortcut through time.. (Score:1)