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Slashdot Google Bombers? 109

Posted by Cliff from the tweaking-the-results-to-your-liking dept.
muirhead asks: "As a proud new dad, I made a web site to share some baby photos. Having seen this article about Google Bombing, I gave it a go and posted comments to Slashdot, Newsforge, Kuro5hin and LinuxWorld. Some of the pages have a high enough PageRank to show up as links into my site. Now, there are quite a few phrases that I can tell folk to google, and know my site will show top of the list. My favourites are Ruby Orange and Mutley Sleeps, but of course, I want more. What other free sites and means do you know of that I can use to further increase the visibility of my website?"
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  • Well... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Rysc ( 136391 ) <sorpigal@gmail.com> on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @10:48PM (#6865552) Homepage Journal
    You could submit it as a story to Slashdot.

    • Re:Well... (Score:5, Funny)

      by skaffen42 ( 579313 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @11:38PM (#6865824)
      Yeah. And then realise that your kid ain't going to college after the bill arrives for your excess bandwith usage.

    • I don't think he needs to worry about how to get higher google ratings. I think he needs to find a way to keep his kid from finding out "Mutley Sleeps" will bring up his baby pictures.

      I for sure would aquit a child for killing his parents for doing such a foolish thing.

      I can picture in highschool, thanks mom and dad, all the kids are jealous of me for having the highest google pagerank for "Mutley Sleeps."

    • Re:Well... (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward
      This is ridiculous. I have been trying to post an Ask Slashdot for weeks involving a specific question about recycling old hardware. My question doesn't see the posts, but some guy wanting his family album to be seen does. What the f*ck are the editors thinking?
      The only remotely redeeming possibility I can think of for this original article is that geeks can get laid too.
    • Title says it all.....

      For the ignorant....

      www.nambla1.de

      LOOSER!

      QueenB

  • Why why why (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Acidic_Diarrhea ( 641390 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @10:49PM (#6865563) Homepage Journal
    Why can't you just give a URL out to your friends? Why would you want to publicize a site which will only be of interest to people you know AND sick perverts that want to look at your child in a much different way than you intended? I understand the desire to share pictures of your new child with family and friends but you might want to reconsider sharing it with the whole world. If I were to create a Internet photo album, I would keep it low-key. Why pay bandwidth bills so strangers can look at your kid?

    • Re:Why why why (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Hard_Code ( 49548 )
      Yeah, WTF is up with that. "HEY COMPLETE STRANGER DO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT MY BABY?!" No you fucktard, so you managed to reproduce, what do you want, a congressional medal of honor? Sheesh. Baby pictures and embarrassing habits should be kept to yourself.
    • Why can't you just give a URL out to your friends?

      Did you see his URL? Not everybody has spare domain names to throw around. So he tucks away some family snapshots in a small corner of a web server that serves a fair amount of other unreleated content. He then wants a quickly communicated and easy-to-remember way for friends and family to find the page. Who the hell else is gonna seach for "Ruby Orange" or "Mutley Sleeps" anyway.

      As far as Cliff getting trolled, all of the story links are to google,
      • There are other means such as .....

        Your ISP hosting webspace, or getting a company who offers vanity domains to point to the url. There are other options than poluting the net with your url.

        I'm especially surprised he hasn't thought about the sick pervs on the net.
    • My dad knows about google. Anyone who's been online more than an hour knows about it. Not all of them know what a 'url' is or even remember a non-simple url when they do.
      "What's your email address? Oh! It's W W W dot ..."

      That's alright, because I tell people to go to google and search [google.com] for my name, donncha [linux.ie] and they'll find my blog!
    • His question is of general interest to many people. One of the reasons I post to slashdot is to drive traffic to my site and to (hopefully) get feedback on my writing. The answer to his question applies to me (and others like me) as well.
      • People who are directed to your site by Google by means of a search query that is entirely unrelated to your website, will not give you must positive feedback at all. It will not be constructive or helpful. Getting your website mentioned on Slashdot is a means of driving traffic where interested people may check it out. Getting your website listed high within a google search through a search term that is not related to your site is a means of driving traffic to your site of an audience that you cannot predi
        • Well sort of. Getting a high page rank on my site does increase the number of people who find information they are looking for on my page. For example, ever since I started promoting my London journal [colingregorypalmer.net], my pagerank increased. That allowed people looking for book reviews [colingregorypalmer.net] to more easily find mine.

          • Here's why: (Score:1, Insightful)

            by Anonymous Coward
            CGP314: "One of the reasons I post to slashdot is to drive traffic to my site and to (hopefully) get feedback on my writing."

            Here's a tip: If you drive me to read your material, you are NOT likely to garner a favorable/constructive review.

            I'd be willing to read what you've done, but if you trick me into hitting your page, the best you can hope to get is my leaving without crapflooding your guest book. Someone looking for a book review finding your site would be a good thing, probably for all involved

  • This guy [google.com] has done pretty well, why don't you check out the secret to his success?

  • That's It! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Zach Garner ( 74342 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @10:52PM (#6865581)
    That's it, I'm leaving slashing permanently! I can't believe this post made it here.

    I'm adding "127.0.0.1 slashdot.org" to my /etc/hosts and never coming back.
    • Slashdot and the furry fandom have one thing in common: Angsty trollers who say "I'm fed up with you all and I'm never coming back" but then start flinging shit like a monkey six months later all over again.
      • Sounds like they reformatted and reset the /etc/hosts file or something. Tho I dunno anyone who reformats linux very often....

        You know /. is like crack, you just can't get enough and you can't go away.
      • Sir, I would submit that it is not healthy to see everything through a furry lens. Sir, it is not healthy, sir.

        What you need, Baloo, what you need, sir, is to broaden your horizons. I consider you a friend, sir. Sir, you are my friend. But you need to broaden your horizons, sir -- you need to broaden your horizons.

        Perhaps explore Christian furrydom, or furry shamanism, sir. Sir, either would make you complete in my book, sir.

        • Perhaps explore Christian furrydom, or furry shamanism, sir. Sir, either would make you complete in my book, sir.

          You mean this [ursine.ca]? And besides, I think my major malfunction is that I haven't had a decent vacation in three years.

  • Another option (Score:4, Funny)

    by flikx ( 191915 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @10:54PM (#6865590) Homepage Journal

    Why rely on google? You could always SPAM everyone about your site!

  • I hope your baby is infertile... (Score:3, Funny)

    by andrewski ( 113600 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @10:59PM (#6865613) Homepage
    Since you are obviously unfit to breed, one could only hope your filthy seed will be unable to reproduce. Too bad it wasn't born with a hairlip, which would indicate its decidedly inferior genetic crop. Maybe it has at least a weak chin to indicate its lact of breeding.

    Good luck on elementary education, and here's to ruining the one thing that could POSSIBLY lend some sense to the modern internet. I hope your testicles are crushed in a vice...

    Sincerely,

    Andrewski

  • You don't need google (Score:5, Insightful)

    by cloudless.net ( 629916 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @11:02PM (#6865631) Homepage
    The best way to drive more traffic to your site is to make more interesting and original content.

  • Grah. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by NegativeK ( 547688 ) <tekarien@hotmail.cOPENBSDom minus bsd> on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @11:02PM (#6865634) Homepage
    I know, I know, most of the posts have been unhelpful thus far.. But I have to ask, should they be? We rely on Google as a tool for relevance for specific searchs, and "Google Bombing," as it so blatantly suggests, undermines this. If you site is good and relevant, it should rise to the top without any such techniques. If it doesn't.. It probably isn't relevant to the searches.

    Sorry for going off on this, but Google is a touchy subject for me lots of others - mainly 'cause other things suck. =)

  • Oh, for fucks' sake. (Score:5, Funny)

    by WasterDave ( 20047 ) <davep AT zedkep DOT com> on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @11:03PM (#6865636)
    What's wrong with the editors today? Hello?

    "Dear Slashdot, can you please advise me on how to more effectively screw over one of the few remaining useful resources? Yours, Johnny Spammer".

    Between this and the regular ocurrence of "does anyone know how I can promote my new shareware, LameView" I'm beginning to wonder if there's a dialog box I'm missing where I can type in my credit card details when submitting a story.

    Fucking hell. Read it, at the top, under the logo

    "Stuff that matters"

    Not

    "Shit marketing resources for lamers"

    Dave :(
    • Agreed completely. This is about as useless and stupid an "Ask Slashdot" I've ever seen posted. What's next?

      Ask Slashdot: My Company Violates the GPL, How Can I Effectively Hide This?

      Ask Slashdot: What's Your Opinion on Fraud?

      Ask Slashdot: I'd Really Like To Get Into Spamming, Can I Have All of Your Email Addresses Please?

      • Going with a theme... (Score:4, Funny)

        by Valdrax ( 32670 ) on Friday September 05, 2003 @11:53AM (#6880147)
        Ask Slashdot: How do I get moderators to like me?
        Ask Slashdot: How does one get on national TV?
        Ask Slashdot: Gimme Attention! NOW!

        ... or going with the theme of destroying a public commons instead of being attention-starved ...

        Ask Slashdot: PC dumping-friendly states?
        Ask Slashdot: Cheap ways to set up a 10 kW ham radio antenna?
        Ask Slashdot: Hacking ILECs for better bandwidth?

        But really, I don't think you can top this question for both sad, pathetic attention cravings and deliberate attempts to ruin a public resource combined together. I can try, though...

        Ask Slashdot: Using USENET to advertise my webcam site?
    • Or,

      "News for Nerds"

      Not

      "Oversized baby pictures with a really hideous background"

  • So, to paraphrase... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by thecampbeln ( 457432 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @11:03PM (#6865641) Homepage
    ...you're looking to us to advise you on how to contribute to the watering down of Google's search results? The /. article you mentioned was exposing this practice as a bad thing, and yet you used the article as a how-to and are adding to the problem, and now are asking us how to help you add to the problem?

    I've got 2 words for you, one guess on what they are...

  • Oh brother... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jpsowin ( 325530 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @11:04PM (#6865648) Homepage
    First, why is this on /. ?

    Second, this is really lame. Why do you want to bomb the engines for your baby site? Who really is looking for it when they search with those keywords?

    Third, why in the world is this on /. ?

    Maybe this will finally break my slashdot addiction ;)

  • good dad (Score:5, Insightful)

    by falsification ( 644190 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @11:10PM (#6865685) Journal
    Time you spend being a good dad will have a more positive effect on the child than maximizing your web site hits.
    • "Time you spend being a good dad will have a more positive effect on the child than maximizing your web site hits."

      I truly applaud the author of that line, and whole heartedly agree. The previous posts do largely sum up my sentiments, but this post was the first I've seen to constructively tell this guy that the world doesn't give a fuck about his kid.

    • Re:good dad (Score:3, Interesting)

      by muirhead ( 698086 )
      Very true.

      Time to quit it.

  • For everyone to pick their favorite spam email sender and sign up his posted email address?

    puppydog@mutley.uklinux.net

  • Today on Slashdot! (Score:4, Funny)

    by Zapper ( 68283 ) on Wednesday September 03, 2003 @11:19PM (#6865737) Homepage Journal
    How to get rich quick!!!!!!!^H^H^H^H^H^H (damn, those suckers just have a life of their own.)

    How to $hamele$$y plug your <spam/"shareware"/casino/pr0n/...> website for in$tant $$$$$$$$^H^H^H^H^H!!!

    All the devious tricks revealed by a website with over half a million users in one easy to access place.

    !!!

    !

  • Now why would anyone do such a thing...
    Gothfare [fimble.com]
    uh... ignore that

  • Liar! (Score:1, Troll)

    by schnits0r ( 633893 )
    As a proud new dad,

    How ca you reproduce? You are a slashdot nerd, you kopw they don't have sex! Well, at least not now that you have a kid to keep you up all night whining and crying.

  • You searched for link:www.mutley.uklinux.net/... (Score:5, Informative)

    by MattCohn.com ( 555899 ) on Thursday September 04, 2003 @12:04AM (#6865944)
    You searched for link:www.mutley.uklinux.net/.

    Please tell us what specific information you were seeking. Also tell us why you were dissatisfied with the search results.
    I would like to point you to this story on slashdot, a popular technology news site, posted by the author of the website above. It discribes how he abused the page-rank system in order to have his page score high on unrelated searches.

    http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?si d=03/09/03/2211236&mode=nested&tid=126&tid=164&tid =185&tid=95&threshold=-1
    Lession for today: Screw the system (esp. the good system) and be screwed by its supporters.

  • way to go jackass (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Go ahead and fuck up google's search results even more to make it worse for those of us that actually use it to look up things that are useful.

    Why can't you just give your friends a URL like most normal people would? Hey, while your at it, you should just buy one of those cd's with millions of addresses on it, and then send a mass mailing telling everyone what to google for to find your site.

    Idiot.

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Informative)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Thursday September 04, 2003 @12:19AM (#6866015)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  • Ouch! (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Man some of the comments posted here are pretty angry. I can't wait to see the fury tomorrow when Michael dupes this Ask Slashdot submission!

  • As a proud new dad... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by MoodyLoner ( 76734 ) <moodyloner.ca@gmai l . c om> on Thursday September 04, 2003 @01:57AM (#6866293) Homepage Journal
    ... I just put something in my .sig and left it at that.

    Oh, and I put up some baby pics in my cube.

    I'm sure your little one is cute, but I don't walk around inflicting my family photos on random strangers, and you shouldn't either.

    And to the guy who keeps posting that people with families aren't actual Slashdot readers: Married ten years, daughter is two and a half. And I call myself Moody Loner. If there's hope for me, there's hope for anybody.

  • Destroy the value of the search engine (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Slipped_Disk ( 532132 ) on Thursday September 04, 2003 @02:01AM (#6866305) Homepage Journal
    Alright, I REALLY hate the fact that I'm starting to sound like those 80 year olds sitting on the porch of the retirement home kvetching about how it used to be in "The Good Old Days", but...

    I remember a better time - A long time ago - when the SPAM content of my inbox was GUARANTEED to be less than the archive of legit mail I have piled up. - Now, in the last 5 days I have 507 bits of spam, and 307 "archived" real mails sitting in my inbox awaiting (eventual) sorting into categories.

    But, far more on topic (or off depending on your point of view), I remember back when search engines were useful because their content was guaranteed to be SOMEWHAT relevant to what you searched for.
    Yes, I know they were never perfect. You could search for Reddywhip, innocently hoping to get a site about whipped cream and inadvertently wind up at reddywhip.org (not your intended destination I'm sure), but now with the clutter from blogs that don't have the common sense to have a NOINDEX in their META tags or an appropriate robots.txt file, the damn things are becoming saturated with CRAP! Add to this the result of "googlebombing" (admittedly a much smaller effect, but still something that gets noticed - obviously or it wouldnt be done) and things are really starting to get out of control.

    Honestly, "nerds" should know better than to abuse search engines like this, and slashdot editors should know better than to post stories like this one - where the only "nerdly" bit is the link to the googlebombing article - itself already a story on slashdot (one with a great deal of merit in and of itself) - which will only serve to encourage more googlebombing and further degrade the quality of search results.

    Moderators: Go ahead, I know it's offtopic, but this kind of stuff SERIOUSLY pisses me off. Nothing personal against Clif & his article selection, I happen to like some of his articles, but this one just serves to inflame an already bad situation.

  • Talk to Suze (Score:1, Offtopic)

    by !3ren ( 686818 )
    Forget all this high tech stuff, talk to Suze and get something 'revealing' posted in your gallery.

    No, seriously...

  • You asked... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 04, 2003 @02:28AM (#6866444)
    If you want to vastly increase web traffic to your site, I suggest that you post more naked pictures of your wife. Also, add some click-through disclaimers and pop-ups, so people know they're getting the *really* good stuff. Also, enter into some mutually beneficial advertising partnerships with any other similar sites.

    And if all that doesn't work, then go to a high-profile event, and kill the speaker and yourself. Don't forget to leave a suicide note with the URL to your website; it'll be in major newspapers everywhere!

  • The Second Most Impressive Slashdot Troll Ever (Score:5, Insightful)

    by 0x0d0a ( 568518 ) on Thursday September 04, 2003 @05:29AM (#6866952) Journal
    All right, we should all clap and move on. This may be the single most impressive Slashdot Troll Story I've ever seen (the first, of course, being the hillarious take [slashdot.org] on the goat.cx link).

    You successfully managed to get a story posted that:
    * has nothing to do with nerds
    * Is a meta-joke (the fact that you have a story up at all means that there is no question)
    * contains obvious and highly visible links to a crappy personal webpage of pictures
    * contains a direct plea to Slashdot to assist in spamming.
    * was posted from an account that wasn't built up at all with legitimate postings, but had been used for just trolling.

    So, I say we should clap momentarily and move on. I suspect that many trolls have tried over the years, but pulling the wool so completely over editors' eyes cannot possibly be easy.
  • Simple: provide good content that other people are interested in. The better and/or unique your content, the higher your visibility. Remember: visibility != number of hits.

    Other question: why do you want more traffic? Just to have a higher hit count? Except if you are hosting a number of paying web-advertizements, I don't see any benefit in that.

  • This isn't Google bombing (Score:3, Informative)

    by Shiifty ( 704247 ) on Thursday September 04, 2003 @10:03AM (#6868352) Homepage
    Google bombing is a co-ordinated attack to increase rankings, usually by blogging. It requires many different sites. Simply posting comments to websites with your website in your .sig or something isn't 'bombing'. Try posting your website to relevant Usenet groups to increase exposure. http://groups.google.com

  • Favourites?? (Score:3, Funny)

    by penguin_punk ( 66721 ) on Thursday September 04, 2003 @11:14AM (#6869064) Journal
    I can't believe your favourites are 'Ruby Orange' or 'Mutley Sleeps'. If I was you, I'd definately be telling people to google for the Tit Tree [google.ca]

    Dang.

  • Where's the "-1: Offtopic" for stories? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by (trb001) ( 224998 ) on Thursday September 04, 2003 @11:42AM (#6869379) Homepage
    Seriously, Taco, can we start modding stories? I would gladly give all 5 of my moderator points for the chance to z0t stories like this. It's amazing that someone managed to post a "-1: Offtopic", "-1: Troll" and "-1: Flamebait" story all in one.

    --trb
  • Among the bellowing "I can't believe this made it to the front page" trumpeters, I'd like to issue the clarion call of a "Congrats!". Fatherhood is something to be proud of!

  • I agree with many of the critical comments, but I'll try to be somewhat helpful anyway. Here's my advice:

    Get the kid a good domain name. Ideally "[firstname][lastname].com".

    Then, set up the web site on that domain name. It is perfectly legitimate to email pictures to your *friends*. But I doubt anyone outside of your address book really cares.

    The memorable domain name will help *interested* users remember the URL, so they won't even need to go to Google to search for it.

    The domain name will al

  • You know you're a geek when you name your daughter after a programming language..
  • Many have said that the story shouldn't have been posted, but what if the point of posting was to make a public example of the flamage you get for google-bombing?

  • reality check (Score:2, Insightful)

    by iamhassi ( 659463 )
    i know this is -1 flamebait but I don't care: reality check, no one gives a damn about your baby. Your friends and family might, so register a simple domain and give them the url, but don't force the rest of us. Hundreds of thousands of babies are born daily, why is yours special? Because it's yours, so you think everyone should care? We don't, and the last thing I want is for your baby's site to pop-up as the first link on google everytime I do a search.
  • Do you really want the WHOLE WORLD to visit your web site?

    Your bandwidth bill will be extraordinary, and you will get some perverts looking at your baby with alternative thoughts....

    Actually, I just visited your site. Nix that last remark. That baby's do damn ugly that even the most depraved of sick-o's [cmdrtaco.net] would have only one thing on their mind: nausea. And that family! Fugly fugly fugly! I need image filtering software to prevent me from viewing it!

    ...Oh, and you'll also get a lot of people who wi

  • 1) get a mac and get a .mac account
    2) take whatever pictures you want
    3) import them into iPhoto
    4) create an album of photos to share
    5) export the album to your .mac account
    6) profit ?!?! (optional)

    Seriously, if sharing your pictures is all you want to do, then this (or something like it) is the way to go.

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