Mini-PCI Wireless Cards from Desktop to Laptop? 22
phyrebyrd asks: "I have been known to pry things apart to see how they work now and then - Especially when I feel something is being deliberately hidden from me. I was rather amused to see that, inside my shiny new NetGear WG311 PCI card for my desktop, was actually a Mini-PCI card! The release clips were soldered onto the adapter, but otherwise extractable. Just for grins, I un-soldered the release tabs, popped it out of the adapter and put it into my Dell laptop, which was ready to receive a Mini-PCI wireless adapter already. This is where I ran into a problem. The drivers loaded, and the monitor popped up, just like it did on my desktop, but all of the configuration tabs had disappeared, even though the status screen showed that it was still scanning for an open network. The model number stamped on the card is T60H677, with a sticker next to it reading T60H677T04. Has anyone actually gotten one of these desktop PCI/MiniPCI cards to work in their laptop successfully?"
now that it's been removed.. (Score:5, Interesting)
Does it still work when you put it back into the desktop machine?
Re:now that it's been removed.. (Score:3, Funny)
Mods must have been smoking some of that Caldera-brand(tm) crack.
This is quite common, but not always a good idea (Score:5, Informative)
Basically, it should work. It sounds like your problem is more of a Windows driver/installation problem. Try going to Device Manager and deleting/removing your 802.11 mini-PCI card. Then reboot and see if it works. If not, you might need to play around with installing/uninstalling the driver, and deleting the card from Device Manager until it works.
The longer answer is that unless the manufacturer prevents unknown mini-PCI adaptors (IBM Thinkpads prevent non-IBM 802.11 adaptors), any mini-PCI card should be compatable. There are some complications, however. Unless you want to do some soldering, you must insure that the mini-PCI card has an antenna jack that is compatable with your laptop's antenna. Even then, there can be problems - I installed the mini-PCI card from a D-Link DWL-G520 in my Dell Inspiron 4100 laptop. I had to do some soldering, since the G520 doesn't have antenna jacks, and even then, the reception is really bad. The 4100 antenna(s) are in a bad location to begin with, but I suspect that the G520 is tuned to the much larger antennas that D-Link provides.
So in conclusion, it is possible to save some money by removing the mini-PCI card from a desktop adaptor. But unless you have a really good reason (for example, you need a specific chipset for a non-Windows OS), it is best to stick with the mini-PCI adaptor that is designed for your laptop.
Re:This is quite common, but not always a good ide (Score:3, Interesting)
The Centrino 802.11b chipset didnt support the security features I needed when I purchased the notebook (MIC, TKIP, LEAP/PEAP, etc) so I turned my C
Re:This is quite common, but not always a good ide (Score:3, Informative)
They do not prohibit non-IBM mini-PCI card use, but (I am told) the bios will disable/not allow cards other than the Centrino Intel wireless, the IBM a/b (or a/b/g) wireless, and the Cisco Wifi.
Seeing as they used bios goofyness to hide the rescue partition at the end of the hard drive, this would not surpise me.
See URL:
kernel archive email [iu.edu]
So long as you use one of those cards, You should be fine.
Re:This is quite common, but not always a good ide (Score:1)
Re:This is quite common, but not always a good ide (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:This is quite common, but not always a good ide (Score:1)
I get the same amount of signal whether it's plugged in or not, though I got an extra terminator piece from the dell service rep here, so I'll be trying to get an external antenna hookup
Heat Damage? (Score:4, Informative)
If you want a miniPCI wifi card - I find that buying them alone instead of on a PCI adapter tends to be cheaper. Check out netgate.com [netgate.com] - their cards are even supported by the ar5k [dycelectronica.com.ar] or madwifi [sf.net] drivers.
WRT54g MiniPCI card (Score:3, Informative)
Re:WRT54g MiniPCI card: Google cache (Score:3, Interesting)
Google Cache Page 2 [216.239.59.104]
Images are missing though.
In Europe ripping the Mini PCI card is (IIRC) the only way to get a Linux compatible Mini PCI 811g card. I haven't found a distributor for one of the few available prism based mini-pci cards in Germany.
Bye egghat.
The "Configuration" tab is missing... (Score:5, Funny)
Since you have opted to change the hardware of your laptop (which wasn't in the manual), you have proven yourself to be a hacker! Therefore, you are not Trusted to Configure anything anymore.
Trusted Computing is still Trusted though. Relax, sit back, and let the Mini-PCI Wireless Network Setup Wizard take over.
Isn't that a common occurrence? (Score:3, Interesting)
So much for fancy technology... I can understand it makes sense from the producers point of view but it still is a bit surprising when you see it.
Re:Isn't that a common occurrence? (Score:4, Interesting)
So much for fancy technology... I can understand it makes sense from the producers point of view but it still is a bit surprising when you see it.
Actually, we have several high-end WAPs that do the same thing. Except the PCMCIA card is external. The WAP itself serves as router, firewall, authenticator, and all around network appliance (where applicable)... and due to the PCMCIA cards, it is upgradeable. When its time to go to 802.11g, just buy the cards and pop them in... other networking technologies should be similarily supported...
For anyone wanting to try this with Apple hardware (Score:5, Interesting)
If your base station breaks but the card is otherwise ok, you can pop it into an Apple laptop or desktop that supports it, or sell it on eBay.
Easier to buy one (Score:1)
compaq presario 1216 laptop? (Score:1)
Yep (Score:1)
Can't tell you anything about the Windows config stuff though. I used linux-wlan.
Not even worth the effort (Score:2)
Man we've come a long ways since Slackware 96