Homemade Subliminal CDs 305
An anonymous reader writes "Hello Slashdotters, I am totally stumped on how to do this. I would like to create custom subliminal CDs for my own use. I don't trust the CDs for sale in the stores, after all, who regulates that industry and ensures there actually is a message on them, and if so, what is the message? I would like to create positive motivational CDs, or even recite text from study guides/trivia, you name it, and lay it underneath tracks from a custom CD of my favorite bands. What is the best software to use to create such a beast on Windows, Mac, and Linux systems? And conversely, has anyone used any of the music software on these platforms to actually analyze the contents of commercial subliminal CDs? Any advice would be of use...thanks!"
Subliminal Messaging (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:Subliminal Messaging (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Subliminal Messaging (Score:2, Interesting)
Thank you.
Re:Subliminal Messaging (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Subliminal Messaging (Score:5, Funny)
OK, I couldn't say that without laughing either
Re:Subliminal Messaging (Score:5, Funny)
[soothing new age music plays]
[Das speaks] Welcome to the superliminal weight loss tape. I will provide you with the gentle encouragement you need to lose weight and be a better you. Are you ready? Sit someplace comfortable, close your eyes, and turn up your headphones. We're ready to begin.
[Das screams] HEY FATTY! GOD YOU ARE FAT! SMALLER PEOPLE ORBIT YOU! EAT LESS FOOD YOU FAT FUCK!
Etcetera. We also have a tape that will make YOU less wishy washy and indecisive and more attractive to girls.
Re:Subliminal Messaging (Score:3, Funny)
I'm afraid if I go through with it, the causality paradox might cause the universe to explode.
Self-suggestion, not subliminal (Score:3, Interesting)
And on that note, let me point out that what this guy wants isn't exactly best described by "subliminal messages". I think he meant "self-suggestion messages". The difference is that you don't have to be tricked by it. You know it's there, you want it to work, you just let it slip out of your immediate attention, and that's where it makes its effect.
As for the technical means, you just have to record a message and simply mix it with audio tracks. For best results: the message should be spoken by the perso
Re:Subliminal Messaging (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Subliminal Messaging (Score:5, Funny)
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I should also note that I have no opinion on the topic one way or the other, I'd just be interested in reading the studies.
Re:Subliminal Messaging (Score:5, Interesting)
I told the students they were being tested on the ability of typing in words to help them remember their meanings. Meanwhile other words and definitions were being flashed on the screen. At the end of the session (10-15 mins i think) they were given a test with both sets of words, and only the subliminal words were counted.
I tested 3 varying durations of the messages, and one of the durations actually had noticeable score above the statistical average for guessing. I was getting psyched. Then I realized I needed a control group too, where I didn't flash anything on the screen. It turned out the control group got nearly the same score as that one above-average group.
I did statistical ANOVA analysis, and basically there was no significant correlation between the group scores and the flashing duration.
It was still a fun project to do. And I got to present the project at the Monmouth Junior Science Symposium [monmouth.edu] too, which ironically happens to be running today and tomorrow.
Re:Subliminal Messaging (Score:3, Informative)
You can't flash words any faster then the computer screen updates. Back in the Commodore 64 days, I was able to read up to 10-digit sequences, no matter how "quickly" you flashed the digits, because the television works on a 24
Re:Subliminal Messaging (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't know about that... In the movie "Fight Club" I found out what those "cigarette burns" (to use fight club's words) mean... I had noticed them long before.
And, although it would be flattering to think of myself as "quick", my reflexes are pretty normal... I remember mentioning them to several of my friends and they saw them too.
Although I will admit that I play a lot of FPS's, so maybe I have "trained" mysel
Re:Subliminal Messaging (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:Subliminal Messaging (Score:3, Funny)
Where can I find a subliminal masseuse?
Re:Subliminal Messaging (Score:5, Funny)
One is giving a subliminal massage right now.. but don't realise it!!
I guess this is a good point as any to insert my probably untrue friend-of-a-friend story. This guy went to Thailand and went to a massage parlour. Anyway, he got this great sensual massage and at the end he's pretty excited, and the woman notices and says to him "you want masturbate?"
So, he eagerly agrees, and she disappears for a while. He thinks she's getting ready, washing her hands or something, so he waits. And waits. And waits.
Eventually she sticks her head back round the door and says "You finish yet?"
I know it's April 1 but... (Score:5, Funny)
I don't trust the CDs for sale in the stores, after all, who regulates that industry and ensures there actually is a message on them, and if so, what is the message
April 1, 2004: Aluminium foil sells record amounts worldwide. History will refer to it as "The Slashdot-Bauxite Phenomena" which seems to predominately strike teen->30ish single male geeks.
Re:I know it's April 1 but... (Score:5, Funny)
This is not true. Many of the government's newer brain-scanning and subliminal suggestion waves are designed to have an impact through traditional tin foil. Aluminum foil, while not as effective overall, is quite effective against these newer control beams.
The proper foil hat to prevent mind control and reading is comprised of two layers, one of aluminum and one of tin foil. Just be sure to press the two sheets together very tightly, as there is some evidence that a control beam getting through the first layer might be reflected back by the second, causing a resonance that can build up in the gap between the layers. This resonance can cause massive headaches and occasional head-explody.
Re:I know it's April 1 but... (Score:4, Insightful)
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Submliminal advertising is hokum (Score:2, Informative)
You have nothing to worry about, because subliminal advertising is not effective. [snopes.com]
Re:Submliminal advertising is hokum (Score:3, Interesting)
When you are driving down the road and you see the big golden M, do you suddenly get hungry?
When asked for a beverage do you ask for a "Coke" or a "Pepsi" or a "Sprite"? (For giggles I ask for a cola, around my parts people look at me funny.)
When you are buying something at the store, and are presented with 3 options, do you automatically assume the most expensive is the best?
When you need to blow your nose, do you ask for a "Kleenex?"
Re:Submliminal advertising is hokum (Score:2)
Subliminal == bullshit in any context.
Re:Submliminal advertising is hokum (Score:5, Interesting)
Anyone in the UK see the program where someone (Derren Brown?) asked a load of advertising people to design a logo and a catchphrase? They made pretty much the exact one that he had put in an envelope before they started. And how? He got the taxi that they came to the office in to drive a certain route, and he planted certain things, logos, words, and images along the way. It all goes in. Everything that you experience is in your subconscious somewhere - that's why you can get it back out under hypnosis. Anyway, back to my circular-breathing Zen chanting back-slapping.
Re:Submliminal advertising is hokum (Score:3, Informative)
Derren Brown is a magician. This is a magician's trick. I've seen it done at least a dozen times, by a dozen different people. It has nothing to do with subliminal messages!
"Everything that you experience is in your subconscious somewhere - that's why you can get it back out under h
Re:Submliminal advertising is hokum (Score:2)
Next time you see this (and since it was in one of those talking head "Best N" shows it will be along again soon) look _carefully_ at
Re:Submliminal advertising is hokum (Score:2)
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Re:Submliminal advertising is hokum (Score:2)
Their article hadn't shown up yet when I posted. I thought I had FP for sure. Oh well. Sometimes you're the fly, sometimes you're the windshield. Go ahead and mark me redundant.
More apr 1 jokes? (Score:2, Funny)
Are you too? (Score:5, Funny)
I would like to create custom subliminal CDs for my own use.
Anybody else creeped out?
Re:Are you too? (Score:3, Funny)
I wonder if this one is really going to use them for personal reasons though... Sounds to me like it's just the next logical step in their War against Piracy.
Re:Are you too? (Score:2)
Use Garage Band (Score:2)
Re:Use Garage Band (Score:2)
Subliminal messages? (Score:5, Informative)
Okay, seriously. You want Audacity. It's multi-track sound-editing software, so you can prepare your subliminal messages and just add them into another waveform. Then you save the results.
Re:Subliminal messages? (Score:2)
I gotta hand it to them, this year is moderately better than last year [slashdot.org]...
Re:Subliminal messages? (Score:2)
Even easier:
dd if=/dev/random of=/home/pegr/mycd.iso bs=512 count=50000000
Then burn with cdrecord. For different mixes, just run it again!
Re:Subliminal messages? (Score:2)
Enough with the April 1st jokes (Score:2, Insightful)
whole year to prepare after all!
Re:Enough with the April 1st jokes (Score:2)
Better than last year (Score:4, Interesting)
Remember last year when every story (almost twice the normal amount it seemed like) was obviously completely false? I have to say that the stories this year a much better. Likely false, but there is enough behind them that they could be true. Slashdot is doing a much better job this year, I'm enjoying the stories.
Re:Better than last year (Score:2)
Yeah, I hear they trained for this by watching Fox News.
Re:Enough with the April 1st jokes (Score:2, Funny)
I say keep it up!
Re:Enough with the April 1st jokes (Score:2)
That was your April Fools joke right? (Score:3, Funny)
Disagree (Score:2)
Just spped it up (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:Just spped it up (Score:2, Funny)
BS (Score:5, Funny)
Umm... hey hottie... nice iPod... here, listen to THIS mp3 I have...
Re:BS (Score:5, Funny)
--trb
Re:BS (Score:5, Funny)
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Not MP3 (Score:2, Informative)
make subliminal CDs convincing hot chicks to sleep with you! "Umm... hey hottie... nice iPod... here, listen to THIS mp3"
One problem: it may work only with FLAC or some other lossless format. The psychoacoustic masking models in MP3 and AAC encoders are tuned for passing normally audible signals, not for passing "subliminal" signals.
custom subliminal CDs (Score:5, Funny)
Dear God (Score:2, Insightful)
Aphex Twin has subliminal pictures (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Aphex Twin has subliminal pictures (Score:2)
It's not a subliminal picture or message because it's just a metallic screech to your ears and brain. When you run the CD wave through specific visualization software, the picture appears. It's like a musical easter egg.
In general, subliminal anything doesn't work.
-Barry
Re:Aphex Twin has subliminal pictures (Score:2)
This is actually Audio Spectrum Steganography, and not really subliminal.
Still, its DAMN cool.
Why worry? (Score:5, Funny)
Not Quite The Same (Score:2)
If submliminal isn't really submliminal (e.g. it still sends vocal audio at, say, a really low volume or mixed in to the point it isn't really noticable), it might have a similar effect.
However, if you want
Subliminal advertising and the Navy (Score:5, Funny)
Lisa: But you have recruiting ads on TV. Why do you need subliminal messages?
Smash: It's a three-pronged attack. Subliminal, liminal, and superliminal.
Lisa: Superliminal?
Smash: I'll show you. [opens the window, and shouts at Lenny and Carl, who are standing on the corner] Hey, you! Join the Navy!
Carl: Uh, yeah, all right.
Lenny: I'm in.
Re:Subliminal advertising and the Navy (Score:3, Funny)
Homer: "Lisa, that's a load of rich, creamery butter."
The number you have reached... (Score:2)
Or am I the only one who thinks this sounds like a Photoshop contest?
Ah, well. It's April First and I'm the biggest fool of them all...
You're too late (Score:3, Funny)
Begone! (Score:3, Funny)
Once I learned the TRUTH I BURNED all my Pat Boone and Mandy Moore CD's! MUSIC IS EVIL!
Stop what thou are doing now unless you want to Burn in a Lake of Fire!!!!
Sure! (Score:2, Funny)
You can learn all of this while you sleep!
Yeah right... (Score:2)
Simple. (Score:5, Funny)
Behold, the power of suggestion.
Re:Simple. (Score:4, Funny)
Difficult (Score:2)
If I were making a CD like that, I wouldn't put the message on a separate track that could be easily isolated. I'd mix it in with a dominant track so that it would be virtually impossible to extract. And IF anyone does this, I don't think you'll have much luck picking out the subliminal sounds.
Music Choice? (Score:2, Funny)
How about positive, motivational music?
You may actually want to check out some Christian rock (or pop, or whatever you're in to), even if you are not a Christian. Much of it is "watered down" enough that it doesn't sound like a sermon in any way.
Try Switchfoot or Pillar. Both have "crossed over" into the mainstream market.
I propose... (Score:2)
"I will cese to post April fool stories" "I will cese to post April fool stories" "I will cese to post April fool stories"
This is turning into a pretty horrible news day for me.. It seems everybody whose in the business of publishing news is publishing bogus stuff to go with it... Heck, even Reuters is in no teh act with the google gmail one.
Re:I propose... (Score:2)
So what if the news sites out there are posting bogus news articles. Don't you think that after telling the horrific stories of yet another terrorist attack in some country, more Americans getting snuffed in Iraq, some Butt Bugg
Re:I propose... (Score:2)
Multitrack editor (Score:4, Interesting)
DO NOT make it an mp3/aac/ogg or any other compressed format as that will drop the "unheard" information from the file. That would defeat the purpose. You need to save the file as aiff or any other PCM format.
Studies on whether or not this actually works are inconclusive. It may depend on your receptiveness to the method. Good luck.
Here's a surefire way (Score:5, Funny)
if you use subliminal tools that are proven to be
very effective by people with the
experience in the areas of consciousness,
memory and mental capacity. If you just believe
every quack out there there's no telling the
mess you can get into. So don't trust every
offer by every amateur with a web page.
Nobody will tell you the bad results. In fact,
everyone will say they have good results.
You need to do your research well.
Despair.com (Score:2)
www.despair.com [despair.com]
Well.... (Score:2)
Subliminal Message #1 (Score:5, Funny)
old subliminal message tapes (Score:3, Informative)
Subliminal messaging definitely does work, but maybe not in this format of sub-audible talk under a soundtrack. It's used all the time in visual print advertising.
To answer the question: just record a message track, mix it in with your music track and adjust the volumn so it can't be consciously heard. Use cooledit. A five yo child could do it.
Repeat after me... (Score:2, Funny)
I would like to create custom subliminal CDs for my own use.
I can imagine... "Oh, you like Billy Joel? I just happen to have his CD here! Let's have a listen!"
In the middle of the night (have sex with me)
I go walking in my dreams (you dream of me)
Through the mountains of faith (let me touch your mountains)
To a river so deep (I go really deep)
YVAN EHT NIOJ!!!! (Score:2)
I Realize This is a Joke, BUT! (Score:4, Informative)
Blipverts! (Score:2)
KROWTNODYEHT (Score:2, Funny)
Subliminal Language CDs (Score:2)
But while researching this, I found other links that described various methods to learning foreign languages, and some of them, not surprisingly, suggested that you should use subliminal methods to "boost" your active learning. Many of these CDs were bogus, IMHO.
Use Cool Edit! (Score:3, Interesting)
This is a real way of influencing your state of mind, not necessarily exact content, but being able to train your brain's rhythms (alpha, beta, theta) at a certain frequency where the effect your meditation or excitement is most useable.
Not bullshit: Take two tones, one at 700 hz, the other 705 hz, and play them in stereo headphones, left/right configuration. What you perceive is the classic 'beat note' you might hear while say, tuning a guitar. This beat note is a FIVE hz tone (the difference), which under normal circumstances is waaay to low to hear. What ends up happening (this has been studied) is that your brain unconsciously begins to train itself at the frequency of that note you 'hear'. so if you want meditational frequencies (theta: 1-3 hz?) you set it to that and then put those tones behind some listening material. You can also do something like change the tone from a 3 hz seperation up to a 17 hz one over the course of 15 miunutes --- listening to this can 'move'' your state of awareness from a deep mediation to a state of extreme awareness. or vice versa, if you just got off of work and want to relax. anyway, all this talk of subliminal messages; this is the real thing.
njoy.
Mini-mini-HOWTO (Score:3, Interesting)
A few years back I ran across patent #5,159,703 [uspto.gov], which claims a method for subliminal audio. The jist of the method is to frequency- or amplitude-modulate the "message" with a carrier wave sufficiently higher than the range of hearing (for me, about 16KHz, YMMV). You then mix this with the music track.
CDDA supports up to 22KHz, and most speakers/headphones claim a frequency response up to 20KHz, so this gives about 4KHz of bandwidth for the message, which is roughly the same bandwidth as voice telephony.
I never got around to actually seeing if it actually worked (just because it's patented, doesn't mean it's valid), but you're welcome to try ...
Subliminal... (Score:4, Interesting)
Subliminal messages are in the range above conscious hearing. This is generally agreed to be 20KHz. Therefore, you would take the spoken portion, and boost it by 20KHz, then add in the music at the normal frequencies.
Now, the real trick here isn't how you record it, but how you play it back. If your audio goes up to say, 25KHz -- you better make sure your speakers/headphones go that high, or it will be a completely useless excersize.
Now, depending on what you are trying to achieve, you might try something else instead. Look into doing binaural audio beats. They are very simple to produce (20 lines of Java, for example). To work correctly, they would require headphones and for best results you do NOT mix it with any other sounds.
The goal behind the binaural audio beats is to cause your brain to resonate at the same frequency as the sounds, thus putting you in a different mental state (alpha, beta, theta, etc) which could result in a hypnogogic state (between sleep and awake) which might help achieve whatever results you are looking for.
Re:Good Message (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Good Message (Score:2)
Re: EPUD (Score:2, Interesting)
The trolling of April's Fools threads should actually be rewarded. In fact, they should just invert the whole karma system for the day and be done with it.