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Futurama: Can it be True!? 448

foolinator writes "Wired News has reported that Futurama could be making a comeback! From the article: "Last year, Futurama and Family Guy reruns did so well that it's likely both shows (which Fox killed in prime time) will produce new episodes." " Now if only I could get more Firefly, TV might be worth watching again.
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Futurama: Can it be True!?

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  • Good news (Score:5, Funny)

    by geirlk ( 171706 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:22AM (#8867575)
    "Good news everyone, we're canceled!"
  • The question is... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Jharish ( 101858 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:23AM (#8867579)
    ...will they be able to get back the same writing talent that made us fall in love with it, or is the quality of the shows going to be compromised?

    At least South Park still manages to be fresh and timely after 8 years.
  • by justinmc ( 710870 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:23AM (#8867580)
    Stewie Griffin: [After Lois tries to feed Stewie his broccoli "airplane style"] Damn you, Damn the Broccoli, and Damn the Wright Brothers.
  • Not true (Score:5, Informative)

    by lxt ( 724570 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:24AM (#8867583) Journal
    This is simply a exagerration by the reporter - a wishful comment. It's simply not true, as has been said on all the Futurama sites for some time now.
    • Re:Not true (Score:5, Informative)

      by ideatrack ( 702667 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:28AM (#8867598)
      The sad fact is that it may just be too hard to get all the right people back together. On the messageboards on Billy West's website [billywest.com] (the voice of Fry, Zapp, Zoiberg etc but you know that) he said that the production team had broken up. At least I think that's where he said it anyway. But he has said he'd love to make more so who knows?

      That said isn't Katy Sagal doing something else with her time now?

      Family Guy is pretty much confirmed now, as the official site of the voice of Lois (forget her name) says as much.
      • Re:Not true (Score:4, Interesting)

        by brokenvoice ( 595329 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:58AM (#8867701)
        Alex Borstein did the voice of Lois and others. Incidentally wasn't there talk of a feature length Family Guy?
      • Re:Not true (Score:5, Informative)

        by EricWright ( 16803 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @08:27AM (#8867799) Journal
        Yes, Katie Sagal is on ABCs 8 simple rules for dating my teenage daughter, the show John Ritter was also starring in when he passed away last year. Who knows if the show will last past this year, though. I don't watch it, and haven't paid any attention to how it is doing.

        That said, back in the early 90s, Yeardley Smith was concurrently playing in Herman's Head and doing the voice of Lisa Simpson. Of course, those were both Fox shows, whereas Sagal would end up on two different networks...

        Who knows!?! ... but here's to wishful thinking!
    • Re:Not true (Score:5, Informative)

      by mikey_boy ( 125590 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:31AM (#8867611)
      that may be, but Seth McFarlane has been quoted as working on new Family Guy:

      ... at the very least it [the new series] will be on Cartoon Network, which is great, because at the end of the day, that's where we built our biggest fan base.

      "The Family Guy" Coming Back [eonline.com]
      • Re:Not true (Score:5, Informative)

        by Cyberllama ( 113628 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @08:00AM (#8867706)
        Yeah its definately confirmed that family guy is coming back. They're working on new episodes now to begin airing in January of '05 on Cartoon Network. Fox has an option to air those episodes or sell them directly into syndication without ever airing them.

        I've heard speculation recently that Fox may indeed exercise thier option to show them first -- so we might get new family guy *THIS* year.

        But as for futurama, this sounds more like wishful thinking than anything substantiated. I think Futurama cost alot more to produce per episode than family guy (I could be wrong), so there might not be any profit to be had by making new episodes for syndication. Moreover, I don't think Futurama has had quite the same level of success in DVD sales that family guy had.

        The key to Family Guy's ressurection was not only beating letterman and leno in it's time slot on adult swim, but also being the number #1 selling dvd/dvd set in the country for several weeks.
  • by 192939495969798999 ( 58312 ) <infoNO@SPAMdevinmoore.com> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:24AM (#8867585) Homepage Journal
    I still think we're headed for an all-cartoon prime time. It's so much cheaper to make cartoons compared to other shows, and the jokes can be so much clearer, plus you can fly under the FCC's crazy censorship witch-hunting by being "just a harmless cartoon".
    • by zakezuke ( 229119 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:55AM (#8867691)
      I still think we're headed for an all-cartoon prime time. It's so much cheaper to make cartoons compared to other shows

      I think I would prefer cartoon primetime over reality TV. Let's see the current Fox lineup on that front

      America's most wanted
      Cops
      My big fat obnoxious fiance
      The simple life
      Totally outrageous behavior caught on tape
      The Swan

      And the ever popular American Idol --www.fox.com

      The Dead Kennedys had a line in thier song MTV Get Off The Air "Allowing it to sink as low in one year As commercial TV has in 25". The shows listed are the likes of which you'd expect to be in scetch comedy. I'm not saying that Futurama or Family Guy is the apex of modern entertainment... but it's at least entertainment rather then vomit.

    • by tb3 ( 313150 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:56AM (#8867697) Homepage
      I'm afraid you're too much of an optimist. The sad truth is we're heading towards a prime time populated entirely by 'reality' programming. (I put reality in quotes because anyone who believes reality is really like that needs their head examined.)
      Those kind of shows are so cheap to make and draw such high ratings that they will completely take over the airwaves in a year or two.
      • by dasmegabyte ( 267018 ) <das@OHNOWHATSTHISdasmegabyte.org> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @10:03AM (#8868484) Homepage Journal
        I'm afraid your both wrong.

        We're headed for what we've always had...a scant few long running shows that get money and the benefit of the doubt, along with a bunch of filler that's on a short leash. Family Guy did well, but it didn't do as well as expected (come on, it was up against friggin FRIENDS, the indestructable behemouth of thursday night. even *I* would tape FG during the first run). So it was dumped as if it were Oliver Beene. Of course, since then, it's done massive syndicated business and had tons of DVD sales, and suddenly it looked a lot more valuable.

        Reality TV series are pressed to be more outrageous and as such are becoming more expensive. Yes, you don't pay the actors...but if you think talented editors, tropical locales and hundreds of cameras come cheaper than a ten person cast and a few unchanging sets, you're deluding yourself. And it's not as if you don't need writers on a reality show...you think all that drama sequences and frames itself? You think those voiceovers are ad-libbed? People write out the plots and subplots of reality TV, same as regular shows...they just have to make mountains out of molehills instead of out of imagination.

        I think reality TV peaked last year. It won't disappear, but I think what we're seeing is the tail end of reality show development and we can expect something new to excite programming directors for the next five years.
      • I've noticed the only shows I watch often are in no particular order:
        • Stand up comedy
        • Banzai
        • Southpark (only new ones. I can't stand southpark reruns and avoid them like the plague. Maybe it's because they too closely match current events - They had a new episode where Saddam Hussein got captured like 4 days after he actually got captured. If they can do that, they can make a new episode for every week dammit!
        • Futurama
        • Family Guy
        • *Would prolly watch simpsons if I got it
          • Notice 3 are cartoons, and one

        • by aiabx ( 36440 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @10:56AM (#8869173)
          anything with Hitler in it is avoided, as is anything having to do with emergency rooms, UFOs, Crop Circles, Ghosts or Psychic Powers.

          I was channel-hopping one night and ran into one of those "Unsolved-Mysteries" UFO shows on Discovery. They were talking about these mysterious lights floating over Phoenix, which are apparently a big mystery in the flake world. I was disgusted to see this kind of World Weekly News crap on a science channel. But I watched it in a horrified trance. And do you know what happened? They debunked it! After listening to all the UFO nuts talking about how the only explanation is the paranormal, they spent the last quarter of the show presenting a credible, rational explanation. Yay for our side!
          -aiabx
    • Actually.... (Score:3, Insightful)

      by dackroyd ( 468778 )

      You are one hundred percent wrong.

      Decent cartoons actually cost far more than the crap reality shows to make. Alledgedly Futurama cost something like $1 million dollars an episode to produce, due to it's high quality animation.

      Thats why Fox canned them in the first place - they did it to bump their short term profits.

      However quality shows like Futurama and Family Guy have much greater long term value - they can be shown on TV for years and DVD sales are also very great - whereas who gives a rats ass abou
  • Is it the money? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by zora ( 570189 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:24AM (#8867586) Homepage
    It seems like too much of a coincidence that while the Simpsons actors are holding out for $8 Million / season that Fox suddenly takes an intrest in Futurama? Say it aint so!
    • But Fox wouldn't be stupid enough to not give them the money they're asking for. The Simpsons is all Fox has besides American Idol. They'd be FOOLS to let Simpsons go under such idiotic pretenses.
      • ... and American Idol is only on for a few months in the spring, and, AFAIK, isn't shown in repeats. Fox NEEDS the Simpsons. I'd guess that, right now, they're just waiting to see if the Simpsons' voice artists will back down any. Either that, or they are the most clueless idiots on planet earth... or both.
  • by aixou ( 756713 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:25AM (#8867588)
    I hope someone at Fox got the axe for cancelling the two shows in the first place.
    • Not a chance. Probably got promoted and given a bayside apartment and six-figure bonus because the next quarter's numbers were up 20%. (Then down 40% the following quarter, after the bonus check was cashed).

      Management can't lose. If they cancel it and fire everyone, they take credit for the cost reduction. If they keep it on the air and it doesn't get the ratings, they fire everyone (because it was their fault) and take credit for the cost reduction. If they keep it on the air and it gets good ratings
  • by Scrab ( 573004 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:26AM (#8867594)
    to the people that had Futurama canned...

    Kiss my shiny metal ass....
  • Skeptic (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Punscho ( 741202 )
    I really am since we all know fox are evil. (Score 1, insightful)
    What about new FG episodes on DVD? I heard some rumour about that...
  • by Mr. Smoove ( 160347 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:28AM (#8867600)
    For those who don't know, Family Guy will be back early next year for a fourth series. Alex Borstein (Lois) has recently commented on her first week back [alexborstein.com].
  • :) hmmm. (Score:4, Funny)

    by mrselfdestrukt ( 149193 ) <nollie_A7_firstcounsel_com> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:29AM (#8867602) Homepage Journal
    Bite my non-shiny non-metal ass!
  • Old News (Score:3, Interesting)

    by theparanoidcynic ( 705438 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:29AM (#8867604)
    CGEF carried this over a month ago. At the time it was considered a case of "overenthusiastic editor." It still is as far as I'm concerned.
    I'll believe it when there's an announcement from Fox.
  • We can only hope. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:32AM (#8867613)
    At the last convention that I saw him at, Matt Groening said he would LOVE to make new episodes of Futurama, but it is a extremely expensive show to make. It's more a money issue than anything else.

    As for Family Guy, they ARE making new episodes of that. The DVD set sales blew the execs away, they hadn't realized how popular it was, apparently.

    Not sure how to make the below a link....first time commenting on Slashdot.

    http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/ in dex.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20040326005446& newsLang=en
    • but it is a extremely expensive show to make. It's more a money issue than anything else.

      I have to call bullshecockey on that statement..

      outside the animation artists and Voice talent it is DIRT cheap to make. Hell all the objects and characters are already created and are lightwave objects... the only thing left is to animate and add the soudtrack.

      Hell several people make Animated series in lightwave, maya and even the much poo-pooed but still superior to lightwave, Blender programs. we make an an
    • Remember, HTML is your friend....... go here [businesswire.com] for the goodness.
  • Smaller channels? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Gilesx ( 525831 ) * <sjw@diSLACKWAREepls.com minus distro> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:35AM (#8867625)
    "Big Name" shows like these with a large brand recognition would be right at home on the smaller channels that need something to grab a few hundred thousand viewers. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that a show like Futurama would be given a lot more love and attention by a more grateful network, than the Fox behemouth.

    In addition to the mentioned toons, I read an interview with Kevin Smith and he mentioned that not only have the original 6 episodes of Clerks: The Animated Series been picked up for airing on a channel other then ABC (HBO I think?), but there is the possibility of all new episodes, as they orginally had plans for 4 seasons! Good times indeed....
  • by katz ( 36161 )
    The Critic has been released on DVD and Invader Zim has probably also been released by now.
    I wish they could bring these shows back.. I heard that Jhonen Vasquez isn't interested in continuing with cartoons though. Ah well.
    Invader Zim only got what, one or two seasons?
  • More than they know (Score:2, Informative)

    by Apreche ( 239272 )
    Futurama and Family Guy are more popular than they realize. Me and my roomate no longer watch television. Over the course of the 4 years of college we've had TV go from that thing we watch to being hated enemy. Of course there are 3 shows we download and watch. The third is the Simpsons. If they make new episodes that would be great, because then I can download and watch those too. It really sucks when you've downloaded and seen every single episode and there's nothing new. Buying the DVDs is good too.
  • They never learn (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Deanasc ( 201050 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:49AM (#8867667) Homepage Journal
    If Fox does bring it back I hope they don't put it on at 7pm Sunday. Football and Nascar runs long... Kill Futurama. They never gave the show a chance to grow an audience outside of Sci-Fi fans. And yet they give Oliver Bean the cherriest slot behind Simpsons. I loved that crapfest when it was called 'The Wonder Years'.
  • Firefly?!? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Sieni ( 647691 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:49AM (#8867668)
    Sheesh, did they have to change the name of Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox/whatever again?!?
  • by shoppa ( 464619 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @07:50AM (#8867669)
    I'm a huge fan of Futurama and Family Guy, but I'm convinced that Fox is only doing this as "fodder" for pre-emption by football games.

    During Futurama's last season there was a two-month stretch where no Futurama was shown at all (even though it was in the schedule).

  • I downloaded every single episode, i hope to do so again.
  • OBEY THE FIST! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by SoupIsGood Food ( 1179 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @08:11AM (#8867733)
    OK, now we've got the second best science-fiction comedy cartoon of all time un-cancelled, a concerted effort must be made to rescue Invader Zim from Nickelodeon. Irkan dominance must not be denied!

    SoupIsGood Food
  • Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus!!!!!!!!!
    Except he's a giant killer robot santa with joy-seeking missiles

    Everybody sing along now!

    He knows when you are sleeping,
    He know when you're on the can,
    He'll hunt you down and blast your ass from here to Pakistan!
    Ohhhhhh
    You better not breathe,
    You better not move,
    You're better off dead, I'm telling you dude,
    Santa Claus is gunning you DOWN!!!!

    Run for your LIVES!!!!!

    God I love Futurama
  • by SuperMo0 ( 730560 ) <supermo0@NoSpAm.gmail.com> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @08:17AM (#8867754)
    1. Create insanely funny, brilliant show. Allow critics and internet forum readers to rave about said brilliance while it airs on FOX.
    2. Allow FOX to cancel your series after a few seasons.
    3. Send out a couple of DVDs that sell millions of copies.
    4. Air reruns on Cartoon Network that become insanely popular.
    5. ???
    6. PROFIT!
  • by cdavies ( 769941 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @08:20AM (#8867766) Homepage
    *Buzzing Sounds* (Together) We will reinstate Futurama... All glory to the hypnotoad.
  • Sarcasm (Score:3, Funny)

    by beders ( 245558 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @08:23AM (#8867786) Homepage
    Wow! web based petitions really do work!
  • by UnixRevolution ( 597440 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @08:29AM (#8867810) Homepage Journal
    Now if only I could get more Firefly, TV might be worth watching again.

    Movie Tome has an entry for a Firefly movie called "Serenity" that will start filming later this year and be ready by 2005. Hopefully it'll be successful and spawn another set of episodes or at the very least more movies. I'd link it but tv tome and movie tome aren't responding to me right now.

    • Movie Tome has an entry for a Firefly movie called "Serenity" that will start filming later this year and be ready by 2005. Hopefully it'll be successful and spawn another set of episodes or at the very least more movies.

      You've got to hope that someone holding the money sees the light. A friend lent me the DVD box set of the Firefly episodes (as I'd missed them all first time around) and I'm hooked. I'm also totally pissed off that when I get to the end of Disc 4 there isn't any more to go round, so I'm

    • For those who read slashdot, they already posted about the fact that the Firefly Movie has been greenlit.

      Firefly Movie Gets The Green Light [slashdot.org]

      Also check out
      FireFlyFans.net [fireflyfans.net] for all new firefly gabbing and info.
      and
      Whedonesque.com [whedonesque.com] for all Joss Whedon News.
    • Firefly fans need not live alone, cowering and huddled in a corner, confused that one of the best shows on TV since Babylon 5 went to cable. Now we can cower in front of our computer monitors, trying to make sense of it all: www.fireflyfans.net www.whedonesque.com
    • Firefly's Hope (Score:4, Informative)

      by catphile ( 316499 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @11:46AM (#8869966) Homepage
      Not only is the movie Serenity in pre-production, but the good folks at Universal asked Joss Whedon to rework the script. And the rumored reson was to make the movie a potential launching platform for... a television program.

      It all will depend on how many people I can drag to the movie.

  • TV: All Hail the Hypno Toad. MMMMMMMM
    Fry: This show has been going downhill since season 3.
  • It's extremely well observed. Being paraplegic myself, I can vouch for much of the characterisation of Joe ("Let's do it!", over-reaction to failure, attitudes of other people, access problems, babe of a wife... no, wait...). I'm told that the Seth man says (in the boxed set DVD edition with all the extras and trimmings which came out a week after I bought all 3 seasons seperately damn you Fox Home Entertainment may your death be painful) these characters are based on real people in RI.

    I'm very glad they'

    • How did you possibly buy all 3 seasons separately? I assume you also meant "bootleg" in there. To my knowledge, the 4-disc DVD set of Seasons 1 and 2 and the 3-disc set of the 3rd season are the only official releases.
  • Fox Execs (Score:4, Funny)

    by Paulrothrock ( 685079 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @08:35AM (#8867857) Homepage Journal
    <Dumbass at Fox> I don't know why it's doing so poorly! All we did is move its timeslot around and then preempt it with sports that its target audience doesn't want to watch.</Dumbass at Fox>

    [as] is like the nice, sweet geek friend who loves a girl (great cartoons) who's with a horrible boyfriend (Fox). He treats her wrong, and she runs to her geek. But as soon as she's feeling better, the dumbass boyfriend wants her back.

    I'm not sure how to feel about this. Part of me says "woo hoo! New Episodes!" But another part says "Now it will be in the mainstream again, complete with lots of disgusting, annoying commercials and no funny cards."
  • by David_Bloom ( 578245 ) <slashdot@3lesson.org> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @08:46AM (#8867932) Homepage
    I love Futurama, it really was the best show on television, but I think the reference to its "revival" in this article is just some stupid reporter misinterpreting some stuff somebody told them. We'd have gotten a more official, specific news article about this if the show was really being revived.


    Now, Family Guy, on the other hand, has a shot - I've seen articles about its possible revival thanks to strong DVD sales.


    Everyone, put your CSS and region-control concerns behind you, and buy a fuckload of Futurama DVDs.

  • Spoon! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Art_XIV ( 249990 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @08:52AM (#8867970) Journal

    Now if only Fox would bring the back The Tick. (The animated version! The animated version!)

  • by zonix ( 592337 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @09:21AM (#8868134) Homepage Journal

    ... was because Seth MacFarlane's old school headmaster got the sponsors of the show to pull out [eonline.com].

    Of course it's total BS, but he's the real person to blame for this, not the Fox execs, as such. What could they do? No money, no deal, right?

    BTW, Family Guy rocks! Go Family Guy! :-)

    z
    • by JoeShmoe ( 90109 ) <askjoeshmoe@hotmail.com> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @01:21PM (#8871535)
      I can't find the article, but Family Guy's greatest opponent was Catholic advocacy groups. Family Guy was 100 times harder on Catholism than Judism or the handicapped. Practically every episode had some dig, from...

      Peter: "We need a book to potty train our son."
      Clerk: "This is the most popular book 'Everybody Poops'. It has won many awards"
      Peter: "Ah, we're Catholic"
      Clerk: "Oh in that case you'll want "You're a Very Bad Boy and That's Concentrated Evil Coming Out of You'"

      to the numerous episode where the Pope get placed in undignified positions or hob-nobs with the Griffin family members with-a da cheezy-a Italiana accento. Not to mention Peter's stereotypical Irish Catholic father role...and his overly-stereotypical Irish Catholic father.

      Anyway, Catholics are a rather large group, and I think enough letters were written to get FOX nervous. Supposedly, outrage from Catholic groups over the first pope episode was the reason it was put on hiatus the first time, only it won an Emmy that year so FOX decided it was worth the risk...but when ratings failed to materialize from the award (thanks to timeslot shuffle) the continued pressure from Catholic groups finally made FOX buckle.

      This was like five years ago, so I have no clue where to look for the article, but it made sense to me.

      - JoeShmoe
      .
  • Interesting (Score:3, Insightful)

    by cubicledrone ( 681598 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @09:31AM (#8868206)
    Isn't it? How something has to be canceled before anybody notices it was doing well? Someone needs to figure out what it is about middle management that makes them insist on canceling/firing/destroying as a first alternative for everything.

    Profits down? Fire people. Ratings down? Cancel it. Not making seven figures pure pocket-stuffing profit a day? Destroy it. What if these guys worked in agriculture? They'd probably bulldoze the whole fucking farm because they weren't shipping truckloads of wheat bread and salsa by Thursday.
  • by jayhawk88 ( 160512 ) <jayhawk88@gmail.com> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @10:07AM (#8868539)
    Nice to see that Futurama may have a second chance at getting pre-empted for football every week and shuffled throughout the Fox lineup until Ethan Fucking Edwards couldn't find it.

    This is still Fox we're talking about people. If both Futurama and Family Guy do end up coming back, don't expect the second coming or anything. They'll get some hype when they first come back, get thrown into some God awful time slot when American Idol: This Time It's Personal goes on the air, and will be forgotten by 90% of this country inside of 3 weeks.
  • by Wateshay ( 122749 ) <bill...nagel@@@gmail...com> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @10:33AM (#8868826) Homepage Journal
    You know, if Fox were to bring back all the great shows they've cancelled over the years, they could singlehandedly wipe out reality TV (largely because they wouldn't have any time to show it).
  • by The Wicked Priest ( 632846 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @11:59AM (#8870178)
    The thing is, Futurama was one of those shows that was driven by one character's unrequited love for another. (Although I suppose there are some who'll argue that it was driven by comedy. Pshaw!) It ended with a story where it looked like Fry and Leela were finally getting together, though the writers left some wiggle room. Now, what would happen in a new season? Either:

    1. The writers take advantage of that wiggle room -- no, Fry and Leela didn't really get together; he's still pining for her, she's still turning him down. That's depressing, after everything that happened in the finale. I don't want to see that.

    2. They DO get together, and live happily ever after. I'm glad for them, but I don't want to watch that. It's boring. That's why "happily ever after" is always at the end of the story. It's a nice place to live, but you wouldn't want to visit.

    Alternatively, they could get together, and then have it not work out. That's even more depressing than the first option.

    OK, so I'm a hopeless romantic.
  • Futurama... (Score:3, Informative)

    by talks_to_birds ( 2488 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @12:40PM (#8870860) Homepage Journal
    ...ane then Family Guy, and right before that Anime Unleashed for an hour on TechTV.

    That's about all there is on cable these days.

    What did Bruce say? Something about "..57 channels and nothin's on.."

    t_t_b

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